Do you guys think Swat should be Zero Bloom? I mean, to me, swat is all about accuracy. I think zero bloom allows you to “out shoot” someone.
Totally Agree!
Since Swat is a single-shot kill game, no bloom makes no sense. Since kill times are so fast, bloom doesn’t punish you unless you missed the first shot.
This is the only playlist that adding ZB is a no brainer.
I like the way SWAT plays with bloom. Spamming is absolutely not rewarding in SWAT.
> I like the way SWAT plays with bloom. Spamming is absolutely not rewarding in SWAT.
Spamming is also non existent when kills are decided by who sees who first.
Bloom is detrimental in this regard as well b/c when it is in effect the luck factor is exponentially increased due to the weight of the outcome(random headshot = random kill/death).
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ZB is a BS game. It’s a crutch for people who got 50s in Halo 3 and hate adapting.
Reduced Bloom? Yes - 60-85% would be okay in SWAT. ZB - complete crap.
Leave ZB in that crappy Beta Playlist, along with the H1 pistol
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> ZB is a BS game. It’s a crutch for people who got 50s in Halo 3 and hate adapting.
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Swat doesn’t need no bloom, it would become a spam fest. If you miss your first shot in swat you deserve to be random for the rest of them.
> Spamming is also non existent when kills are decided by who sees who first.
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> Bloom is detrimental in this regard as well b/c when it is in effect the luck factor is exponentially increased due to the weight of the outcome(random headshot = random kill/death).
I guess I just like the punishment factor of bloom in this case, since if you do see someone first, and miss, in ZB you just get another shot, but with bloom you are punished by having to wait.
I’m also going by personal experience. After playing MLG (pre ZB), which was one of the playlists where the optimal ROF was higher due to increased team shooting, I would occasionally switch to SWAT and notice a severe decrease in my normal performance until about halfway through the game. I realized this was due to shooting to quickly, and once I was able to control my instincts and slow down my shot I would quickly start doing much better.
SWAT is the only playlist that bloom actually makes sense for: a twitch-based mechanic for the twitch-based gametype. It’s that first shot that counts the most and really punishes people for missing it.
But then again, it detracts from multi-kills and generally makes the game less fun imo.
Guess it comes down to preference more than anything.
Dunno, it’s a toss-up for me but since I don’t play SWAT, I’ll leave the “preference” part up to those who do.
I would say 300% bloom better
Or at least 150%…
I don’t want bloom. After playing a lot of SWAT, multi-kills are screwed over by bloom, especially when you have the chance for an extermination, but you can’t convert those last three quick kills because of bloom. I definitely support ZB for SWAT.
And people don’t deserve to be punished for missing the first shot. Whoever has better aim should win, and that’s what ZB is all about, especially in SWAT. Whoever has better aim should win, whether both players miss the first shot, or the first three shots: it should all come down to skill.
Spamming/spraying will always be a problem in any FPS. In a stressful situation, where both players are in front of each other, under pressure to kill the other first, spamming is inevitable; the one who has better aim should win, but not so with bloom.
Come on, one of you guys say Swat, i just love seeing Swat lovers rage on these forums 
Kidding aside, i don’t really play Swat that much. You kinda have to pull host or else you’ll die IMO, i just prefer shields. Feels more like Halo that way and less of a COD hybrid.
But for those who do play SWAT like it’s a way life, dunno. ZB is not random, 100 percent is. I’ll leave it at that.
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> > ZB is a BS game. It’s a crutch for people who got 50s in Halo 3 and hate adapting.
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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You can’t be serious can you?..
I must be since I did post it here.
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> > > ZB is a BS game. It’s a crutch for people who got 50s in Halo 3 and hate adapting.
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> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You can’t be serious can you?..
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> I must be since I did post it here.
All the people you said zb is a crutch for…
They adapted way better than you have, Just sayin.
> Spamming is also non existent when kills are decided by who sees who first.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t play SWAT.
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> > > > ZB is a BS game. It’s a crutch for people who got 50s in Halo 3 and hate adapting.
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> > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You can’t be serious can you?..
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> > I must be since I did post it here.
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> All the people you said zb is a crutch for…
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> They adapted way better than you have, Just sayin.
I would hope so. If they couldn’t adjust when a game was made easier, then there’s something wrong with them.
(I also find it funny how the people lobbying for ZB complain about CoD Hardcore being easy and noob friendly when it’s ZB also.)
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> > > > > ZB is a BS game. It’s a crutch for people who got 50s in Halo 3 and hate adapting.
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> > > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You can’t be serious can you?..
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> > > I must be since I did post it here.
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> > All the people you said zb is a crutch for…
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> > They adapted way better than you have, Just sayin.
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> I would hope so. If they couldn’t adjust when a game was made easier, then there’s something wrong with them.
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> (I also find it funny how the people lobbying for ZB complain about CoD Hardcore being easy and noob friendly when it’s ZB also.)
Oh no, there’s tons of spread in CoD, especially for the precision weapons (aka snipers). It makes no-scoping a near impossibility, but spamming/spraying is even more prevalent in CoD than in Halo.
SWAT needs ZB. That way, spamming won’t be as easy as people once thought it was when they had spread.
The only punishment from missing the first shot should come from the opponent turning around and killing you.
Wouldn’t be unsweet! Might work better for multi-kills as well, but Swat really is a one shot game the majority of the time anyway.
Swat does not need to be ZB. ZB and reduced bloom is catering to the no skill kids out there that cannot adapt and pace their shots. Taking out/reducing the bloom makes this game very much like COD, and I hate “camp of dullness”.