I would like to see Zero Bloom gametypes sprinkled into the other playlists that we currently have. There is only one completely exclusive ZB playlist currently (MLG), but I would like to see this be used as a game mode in more of the playlists. Having like one of the options each time in Rumble Pit be Zero Bloom would be great, or a option for Zero Bloom BTB or Team Slayer would be great as well. I know that there are many players that much prefer these settings and the fact that they are only really in one playlist isn’t ideal. Who else would like to see this done?
There was very few people that preferred ZB settings, but I really think that 343 should have let the ZB playlist stay so those that enjoyed it could get their fix.I thought the removal indicated a new playlist impending, so just taking it away seems a little arbitrary at this point without the addition of another.
It wasn’t that popular because they left the movement at default and it was too damn easy to hit shots. Also MLG already fulfilled that niche and did it better.
I loved the lack of randomness and loved the increased speed it brought.
You also have to remember that the majority of people that would like it left when reach first came out.
SWAT should be ZB.
> SWAT should be ZB.
Agreed! No spamming for the Randy-Scrandy!
> > SWAT should be ZB.
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> Agreed! No spamming for the Randy-Scrandy!
What? If i miss the first shot in swat and start spamming, im probably dead. Swat is like the one playlist where having normal bloom emphasises the paramount importance of hitting your first shot before the other guy does…with ZB you could just keep mashing the trigger and strafing at head height and let magnetism do the work.
Truth is, ZB is so niche it couldnt even support a single playlist where it was the star attraction. I was even surprised by the relative lack of forum whining when it was removed, frankly i expected months of death threats.
> > > SWAT should be ZB.
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> > Agreed! No spamming for the Randy-Scrandy!
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> What? If i miss the first shot in swat and start spamming, im probably dead. Swat is like the one playlist where having normal bloom emphasises the paramount importance of hitting your first shot before the other guy does…with ZB you could just keep mashing the trigger and strafing at head height and let magnetism do the work.
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> Truth is, ZB is so niche it couldnt even support a single playlist where it was the star attraction. I was even surprised by the relative lack of forum whining when it was removed, frankly i expected months of death threats.
Exactly, bloom is the best thing that could happen to Halo, you actually plan your shots and have a chance at some person who spots you first.
If zero bloom SWAT happens, then there’s no challenge at all.
I like playing it from time to time MAYBE EVEN IN DIFFERENT PLAYLISTS ?
Might be fun
So sure more ZB in halo Reach
I think they should just bring Zero Bloom playlist back.
It was a great playlist and made for the best of both worlds, combining MLGs zero bloom and the AA in which 90% of the maps were designed for.
Just bring back ZB, it was a great playlist and 343i really just got rid of it to boost their playlist by adding ZB slayer into one of the options on that and then giving it a massive jackpot the same weekend.
I know ZB didnt exactly have a large group, but IMO it was the best playlist in the game (Besides possibly MLG.)
> > > > SWAT should be ZB.
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> > > Agreed! No spamming for the Randy-Scrandy!
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> > What? If i miss the first shot in swat and start spamming, im probably dead. Swat is like the one playlist where having normal bloom emphasises the paramount importance of hitting your first shot before the other guy does…with ZB you could just keep mashing the trigger and strafing at head height and let magnetism do the work.
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> > Truth is, ZB is so niche it couldnt even support a single playlist where it was the star attraction. I was even surprised by the relative lack of forum whining when it was removed, frankly i expected months of death threats.
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> Exactly, bloom is the best thing that could happen to Halo, you actually plan your shots and have a chance at some person who spots you first.
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> If zero bloom SWAT happens, then there’s no challenge at all.
Wrong. Halo 3 swat was one hell of a lot harder, and that was Zero Bloom. I was a god in reach swat up until I stopped playing, and it was stupidly easy to do, because anyone with decent aim and quick reflexes and knowledge of how to effectively move around a map will dominate any swat match.
Just do BR swat in halo 4, and all should be fine.
> > > SWAT should be ZB.
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> > Agreed! No spamming for the Randy-Scrandy!
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> What? If i miss the first shot in swat and start spamming, im probably dead. Swat is like the one playlist where having normal bloom emphasises the paramount importance of hitting your first shot before the other guy does…<mark>with ZB you could just keep mashing the trigger and strafing at head height and let magnetism do the work.</mark>
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> Truth is, ZB is so niche it couldnt even support a single playlist where it was the star attraction. I was even surprised by the relative lack of forum whining when it was removed, frankly i expected months of death threats.
I for one was pissed off, but it wasnt the only ZB playlist. Theres MLG, which a large portion of ZB players moved to if they werent already there.
<mark>Play MLG and try and tell me that.</mark>
> large portion of ZB players moved to if they werent already there.
So about 100 players?
> large portion of ZB players moved to if they werent already there.
So about 100 players?
> > large portion of ZB players moved to if they werent already there.
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> So about 100 players?
Granted.
The sad thing is, if Reach had been Zero Bloom from the start, no one would have cared about it.
More zero bloom playlists would be awesome.
> > > SWAT should be ZB.
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> > Agreed! No spamming for the Randy-Scrandy!
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> What? If i miss the first shot in swat and start spamming, im probably dead. Swat is like the one playlist where having normal bloom emphasises the paramount importance of hitting your first shot before the other guy does…with ZB you could just keep mashing the trigger and strafing at head height and let magnetism do the work.
Exactly. Hitting the first shot is paramount in SWAT. Missing it because of bloom is annoying. In a 5sk playlist, bloom makes sense- pacing is rewarded because you SHOULD have to hit more than one shot. In SWAT, pacing is irrelevant- your first shot should realistically be the only one you take. Therefore, bloom doesn’t make sense in SWAT.
Your theory on mashing the trigger and strafing assumes that both play players are, to put it lightly, “unskilled.” DMR battles are not something that should be happening often in SWAT. It’s a fast paced game in which 90% of the time, when you come across someone in an open area, one of you is dead near instantly (or both of you are, but that is annoying in it’s own right lol.)
> Exactly, bloom is the best thing that could happen to Halo, you actually plan your shots and have a chance at some person who spots you first.
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> If zero bloom SWAT happens, then there’s no challenge at all.
Again, you are disregarding the fact that SWAT should be a one shot kill the majority of the time. You shouldn’t have to pace your shots in SWAT, because you shouldn’t be taking that many. In fact, ZB SWAT would likely actually provide more of a challenge, because it increases the need for AIM in the first shot. You won’t get lucky with a bloomed shot, and if your opponent has better aim, you’re done.
Frankly, if pacing your shots is the only thing that makes the game “challenging,” then MLG must not be challenging. It must be really easy. All the other Halo games are easy too because you didn’t have to pace.
> > > > SWAT should be ZB.
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> > > Agreed! No spamming for the Randy-Scrandy!
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> > What? If i miss the first shot in swat and start spamming, im probably dead. Swat is like the one playlist where having normal bloom emphasises the paramount importance of hitting your first shot before the other guy does…with ZB you could just keep mashing the trigger and strafing at head height and let magnetism do the work.
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> Exactly. Hitting the first shot is paramount in SWAT. Missing it because of bloom is annoying. In a 5sk playlist, bloom makes sense- pacing is rewarded because you SHOULD have to hit more than one shot. In SWAT, pacing is irrelevant- your first shot should realistically be the only one you take. Therefore, bloom doesn’t make sense in SWAT.
Ok, what the hell am i reading…there will be no bloom on your first shot, ZB or no ZB. Surely you are aware of this. Do you know what bloom is?
Bloom starting at shot number 2 is your punishment for missing the first one. ZB = no punishment for missing the first one. ZB swat is baby mode swat.
And thats why 343i never dared play with the bloom setting in swat.
Yes, I know what bloom is thanks. If there is absolutely zero bloom on the first shot then I’ve got some lag going on.
Also, how does rewarding AIM over pacing make it “baby”? You still have to be the better shot.
Yes,add a ZB option in Team Slayer or BTB…People need to seriosly train on the H4 Magnum and DMR.