I think i speak for a lot of the community when i say that for next wednesday’s TU. All i want to play is Zero Bloom Slayer. I really hope this is the one game type we get.
Anyone else agree?
Yes. Please 343
Too right.
I mean how could 85% bloom be better than 100? It would just make spamming even more lucky.
No bloom or fold.
> Too right.
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> I mean how could 85% bloom be better than 100? It would just make spamming even more lucky.
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> No bloom or fold.
I totally agree. 85% Bloom you might as well just spam.
Needs to happen. Bloom is bloom whichever way you cut it and the randomness will always be there in some degree.
Cant really flame 85% until we’ve tested it.
> Cant really flame 85% until we’ve tested it.
It’s like this though. 85% = 15% less chance to get lucky?
Or
100% Bloom is 100% limited
85% Bloom is 85% limited
0%Bloom is 0% limited
> Cant really flame 85% until we’ve tested it.
Sure i can.
Beta had bigger bloom, spamming was less effective, but kill times were even more excrutiatingly slow.
85% will do the same thing as bloom changed from beta to retail.
Bloom + Precision weapon + Halo = Fail.
No Bloom playlist. YES please!!!
Agreed.
> > Cant really flame 85% until we’ve tested it.
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> Sure i can.
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> Beta had bigger bloom, spamming was less effective, but kill times were even more excrutiatingly slow.
> 85% will do the same thing as bloom changed from beta to retail.
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> Bloom + Precision weapon + Halo = Fail.
This. If the Bloom radius is smaller. That means spammer have MORE of a chance at a headshot. It’s dumb. Zero Bloom or -Yoink-
Agreed with all said
Thank God. I’m picking no-bloom as soon as I see it.
It seems like people aren’t thinking enough/well.
> It seems like people aren’t thinking enough/well.
How so? So because we dislike Bloom, we’re stupid? I don’t agree.
> > > Cant really flame 85% until we’ve tested it.
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> > Sure i can.
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> > Beta had bigger bloom, spamming was less effective, but kill times were even more excrutiatingly slow.
> > 85% will do the same thing as bloom changed from beta to retail.
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> > Bloom + Precision weapon + Halo = Fail.
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> This. If the Bloom radius is smaller. That means spammer have MORE of a chance at a headshot. It’s dumb. Zero Bloom or Yoink!
more bloom is actually what we need, if bloom is to be kept above 0%. either no bloom, or HIGHER percentage (to punish spamming MORE, NOT LESS).
another thing you also have to consider is, with 85% bloom strafing might actually be viable to get outside the circle for long enough to sway the outcome of the battle in your favor against a spammer. its currently basically impossible to juke someone with strafing to get outside the watermelon-sized circle.
if the radius of the circle is 1inch (for example purposes only)
the area of the 1 inch radius circle is 3.1415926535898 inches squared.
with a .85 inch radius circle, the area is 2.2698006922186 inches squared.
thats 27.75000000000097% smaller area.
this might actually be substantial enough to make it work as intended, with the better shooter winning 100% of the time (even if spamming ends up being optimal since its probably going to be more reliable if you can aim well too).
personally i hate spamming, and with it was abolished in its entirety by making the % something massive like 150% bloom, OR MORE. just make sure the kill time doesnt go up because thats the last thing we need lol.
> > > Cant really flame 85% until we’ve tested it.
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> > Sure i can.
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> > Beta had bigger bloom, spamming was less effective, but kill times were even more excrutiatingly slow.
> > 85% will do the same thing as bloom changed from beta to retail.
> >
> > Bloom + Precision weapon + Halo = Fail.
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> This. If the Bloom radius is smaller. That means spammer have MORE of a chance at a headshot. It’s dumb. Zero Bloom or Yoink!
Absolutely correct. If bloom is only decreased by a certain amount, this means that the reticle won’t expand as quickly, thus allowing you to get more hits while spamming before the weapon becomes too inaccurate to hit reliably. The reticle still expands, but neither does it expand enough to make the weapon too inaccurate to miss while spamming, nor does it require you to aim precisely like a no-bloom weapon does.
The only solution is the removal of bloom from headshot-capable weapons. End of story.
Exactly, thats why all i will play is ZBS. I hope there is no bloom in Halo 4, just fixed RoF.
> > > > Cant really flame 85% until we’ve tested it.
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> > > Sure i can.
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> > > Beta had bigger bloom, spamming was less effective, but kill times were even more excrutiatingly slow.
> > > 85% will do the same thing as bloom changed from beta to retail.
> > >
> > > Bloom + Precision weapon + Halo = Fail.
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> > This. If the Bloom radius is smaller. That means spammer have MORE of a chance at a headshot. It’s dumb. Zero Bloom or Yoink!
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> more bloom is actually what we need, if bloom is to be kept above 0%. either no bloom, or HIGHER percentage (to punish spamming MORE, NOT LESS).
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> another thing you also have to consider is, with 85% bloom strafing might actually be viable to get outside the circle for long enough to sway the outcome of the battle in your favor against a spammer. its currently basically impossible to juke someone with strafing to get outside the watermelon-sized circle.
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> if the radius of the circle is 1inch (for example purposes only)
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> the area of the 1 inch radius circle is 3.1415926535898 inches squared.
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> with a .85 inch radius circle, the area is 2.2698006922186 inches squared.
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> thats 27.75000000000097% smaller area.
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> this might actually be substantial enough to make it work as intended, with the better shooter winning 100% of the time (even if spamming ends up being optimal since its probably going to be more reliable if you can aim well too).
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> personally i hate spamming, and with it was abolished in its entirety by making the % something massive like 150% bloom, OR MORE. just make sure the kill time doesnt go up because thats the last thing we need lol.
I wouldn’t mind seeing bloom be at 300%. Then it would really serve it’s purpose (punish spammers, reward pacers). If bloom were to be increased, we would need kill times to be faster either by increasing the rate at which bloom resets, or increasing weapon damage (or both).
Zero bloom is always good too though.
With no bloom you got an universal fire rate, so then spamming wouldn’t exist, because everyone would shoot at the same speed.
No Bloom 4 Life!