Zero Bloom and 85% Bloom only work properly with....

…different moving base traits.

It’s pretty simple, for zero bloom we remove all AAs and add 120% speed, 125% jump and 200 gravity (must; if we want good strafes and remove the skating feel), and we get the definitive classic experience.

As for 85% bloom, we just add 110% speed, 110% jump and 200 gravity (optional; if we want to nerf jetpack), and we get the definitive default Reach experience.

Default speed only works properly with the current bloom setting, but now that the TU gave the game less bloom (now faster paced) we also need to move faster to get good strafes to remove the easiness of getting 5sks all the time.

Discuss

theres nothing to discuss. you are right, plus a million.

we simply HAVE TO HAVE increased movementspeed.

its basically like our guns now work at double the pace of the game. it feels very odd. the speed of the player has to be proportional to the kill times of his weapon, otherwise the game just plays very poorly.

120% movementspeed. no less. any less is horrible when paired with no bloom, or tweaked bloom IMO.

100% agree.

I mean, it’s common sense, if your gun kills faster than normal, then you should also move faster than normal.

I hope it doesn’t take long for 343i to realise this, If they already haven’t.

The settings mentined in the OP are the settings that fit those two gametype best.

At the time, the only gametypes that are half enjoyable, are the ones with 85% bloom, because zero bloom with default feels like call of duty ADSing all the time (no joke), there can’t be AAs or turtle speed when there no bloom, it’s just dumb.

> theres nothing to discuss. you are right, plus a million.
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> we simply HAVE TO HAVE increased movementspeed.
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> its basically like our guns now work at double the pace of the game. it feels very odd. the speed of the player has to be proportional to the kill times of his weapon, otherwise the game just plays very poorly.
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> 120% movementspeed. no less. any less is horrible when paired with no bloom, or tweaked bloom IMO.

Couldn’t agree more :smiley:

> theres nothing to discuss. you are right, plus a million.
>
> we simply HAVE TO HAVE increased movementspeed.
>
> its basically like our guns now work at double the pace of the game. it feels very odd. the speed of the player has to be proportional to the kill times of his weapon, otherwise the game just plays very poorly.
>
> 120% movementspeed. no less. any less is horrible when paired with no bloom, tweaked bloom or default reach IMO.

Fixed.

Reachs base movement speeds never worked. MLG got it right, at least strafing is somewhat viable there.

The movement setting and all that good stuff will be changed in the future. A lot of worries will be put to rest, after all.

Right now, they’re testing Reach Gameplay + ZB and 85% bloom. I don’t think it will stay that way, though.

120 speed, 150 jumps, and 200 gravity make for the perfect Halo experience.

Throwback Slayer 0% Bloom

Throwback Slayer 1.5 85% Bloom

Here are game types made to feel like Halo 3. Damage is modified as well. DMR and Pistol are 5SK, grenades are nerfed, shields recharge faster.

We definitely need higher movement speed. It’s too easy to aim in this game. Increased movement acceleration would be nice, too.

Completely agree man, those movement settings make the game place sooo much like Halo 2/CE it’s unbelievable.

Now we just need to get rid of strafe acceleration…

I 100% agree. Strafing does nothing with the current setup

> Throwback Slayer 0% Bloom
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> Throwback Slayer 1.5 85% Bloom
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> Here are game types made to feel like Halo 3. Damage is modified as well. DMR and Pistol are 5SK, grenades are nerfed, shields recharge faster.

Halo 3 worked with a slower moving speed than Halo 2; because hitscan was gone, but now that it returned, 120% speed and 200% gravity are a MUST to use with zero bloom.

I like throwback 1.5, though.

edit: I love the fact that you nerfed the grenades, the pistol and the NR.

I agree. There definitely needs to be some changes made to movement.

Agreed, this would make it way more competitive. I hope they add this

> Agreed, this would make it way more competitive. I hope they add this

I hope they add this too :smiley:

What if I like the current movement speed?

> What if I like the current movement speed?

LOL

> > What if I like the current movement speed?
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> LOL

Nothing to laugh about, just what I prefer. I’ve played my big chunk of Halo from CE to currently Reach, and I’d say I prefer this still.

You like the game because you don’t ever miss when your targets are virtually standing still. I like the challenge of shooting a moving object and I also like being able to avoid getting shot. That is just me