We all have played Beta ZB Slayer, and we can all say that it’s pretty much who sees who first wins kind of gametype(a little bit like SWAT but not much). And that’s because of the movement speed.
I suggest that 343i uses the MLG moving bese traits that MLG have used from season V2 to V6 (but won’t use anymore).
They are:
110% speed
110% jump
150% gravity
^This and the pistol nerf are going to make the experience of the ZB playlist really enjoyable.
Who agrees? Who disagrees?
Discuss 
Agreed with conclusion… just not entirely the premise.
Regardless, the default speed needs to be upped in all ZB gametypes.
I rather have 120 movement and 125 jump but that’s just me 
I would hate that ZB would have default speed.
Just play the MLG playlist.
Bungie and 343 are too content with standard Reach to make any improvements. Sad but true.
Anyway, why play the ZB playlist when MLG is going to be leaps and bounds the better ZB experience? I understand that the map selection is different but I’d rather play good settings on a few maps than crap settings on all of them.
> Just play the MLG playlist.
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> Bungie and 343 are too content with standard Reach to make any improvements. Sad but true.
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> Anyway, why play the ZB playlist when MLG is going to be leaps and bounds the better ZB experience? I understand that the map selection is different but I’d rather play good settings on a few maps than crap settings on all of them.
Pretty much this. From Tuesday onwards I will not see much of a reason to play the TU playlist.
ZB hasn’t been great in TU because of the pistol being in the default load out.
They are switching it to DMR/AR starts, so the pistol wont be there anymore to spam away.
The ZB DMR will be an improvement.
And the playlist is still called “beta”, you should let 343 continue their tests to see which way to play is better step by step.
You cant complain about something that hasn’t been released yet.
> Just play the MLG playlist.
> <mark>Anyway, why play the ZB playlist when MLG is going to be leaps and bounds the better ZB experience?</mark> I understand that the map selection is different but I’d rather play good settings on a few maps than crap settings on all of them.
This is actually true lol.
I have been a longtime advocate for faster walking speed in all of Reach. Because I have a still-active thread about the issue, I’m not going into details here as to why I support that. What I will say is that a higher movement speed should not be left to the confines of the TU Beta and Anniversary playlists. The wide cone of fire on some weapons combines with a need to get a “running start” before reaching full speed makes sidestepping some projectiles difficult. And when it’s harder to dodge, it’s easier to be hit. When it’s easier to be hit, he who shoots first wins.
> Just play the MLG playlist.
>
> Bungie and 343 are too content with standard Reach to make any improvements. Sad but true.
>
> Anyway, why play the ZB playlist when MLG is going to be leaps and bounds the better ZB experience? I understand that the map selection is different but I’d rather play good settings on a few maps than crap settings on all of them.
I agree with OP.
I will definitely play the MLG playlist next week as the settings sound AMAZING. However, I am of average skill which means I’ll be one of the worst players in the MLG playlist. While I enjoy a challenge, I’ll want a break after so many games of getting dominated and screamed at to quit Halo forever. 
It just doesn’t make sense to me to have default movement speed in any ZB games. It didn’t make sense when they released the beta playlist and it still makes no sense to me!
Yeah, I can’t see me playing default ZB Slayer. MLG sounds much better (both because of movement speed and the inclusion of Objectives).
I agree.
Without Bloom, Halo: Reach’s styel of gameplay changes entirely on the way that use weapons, how you fight enemies and how you deal with situations.
A lack of movement speed and increased jump height in Zero Bloom Playlists makes it almost unplayable for me as it feels like as you said, a different variation of the SWAT Gametype. Whoever has the the best connection, better shot and had the first encounter will win.
> I would hate that ZB would have default speed.
I would like 120% speed
That’s why you move over to the MLG playlist.
Not all of us have a team for MLG.
Searching random is painful to say the least.
> Not all of us have a team for MLG.
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> Searching random is painful to say the least.
This plus I enjoy a lot of the maps MLG does not have. It should be REAL easy to at least give 110 speed. Come on don’t drop the ball here.
> > Not all of us have a team for MLG.
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> > Searching random is painful to say the least.
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> This plus I enjoy a lot of the maps MLG does not have. It should be REAL easy to at least give 110 speed. Come on don’t drop the ball here.
They will drop the ball… I see it coming already, but nothing disappoints me anymore. Which is the only good thing reach has done for me. Pretty sad though haha.
> > > Not all of us have a team for MLG.
> > >
> > > Searching random is painful to say the least.
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> > This plus I enjoy a lot of the maps MLG does not have. It should be REAL easy to at least give 110 speed. Come on don’t drop the ball here.
>
> They will drop the ball… I see it coming already, but nothing disappoints me anymore. Which is the only good thing reach has done for me. Pretty sad though haha.
XD
What’s wrong with the MLG playlist?