What is your ideal conclusion for the Halo series? How would you have the saga end?
To be completely honest, and I surprise myself even saying it, I have absolutely no idea.
Halo has got so much going on in its universe spanning 100 billion years of lore, we’ve only scratched the surface of what stories the franchise has to offer. I guess that I’d quite like to see conflicts resolved in a way which allows a measure of hope for the future - the formation of a proper, authentic alliance between humanity and the other races in the galaxy would be nice. We just need to weed out the bad eggs (ahem, ONI) and give the people working towards peace more power and influence. Halo: Escalation sounds like it’s going to be a step in the right direction in regards to the Arbiter making a peace treaty with the Brutes (and what humanity’s involvement in this peace will be interesting to see).
It’d be interesting to see the Halo universe in the future with a galaxy-wide metropolis where humanity and the other races of the galaxy have learned from the mistakes of the Forerunners and can co-exist peacefully.
This is all, of course, subject to whether the Precursors are just going to come in and ROFLstomp everybody resulting in another firing of the Halo array.
@ajw34307
I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death.
I would have Chief leave behind everyone, this world and this galaxy to go on a one way trip jumping through dimensions of alternate universes exploring the different eventualities that stemmed from one diverging choice.
But in all seriousness I don’t know what would be my ideal conclusion. At this point, Chief seems to me the kind of person that either heroically dies fighting or when it’s all done plans to give it up. Almost in the way samurais decide to become a more passive monk.
It would be weird and cool in a way if humanity split. One went and formed a human empire, while the rest over time and transcended into Forerunners. Maybe humans found the way to accelerate their evolution and this caused the split in ideology.
Far later, perhaps some conflict would arise, forcing the Forerunners to wipe out the human force but mercifully and carefully indexing its species for rebirth.
After the war, the Forerunners are weakened and perhaps internal conflict causes mutual destruction.
The magnificence of the Forerunners falls like Rome, leaving behind their grand structures and technology for humanity to once more find years and years later.
While some other aspects have to be better explained, in general this forms an infinite loop. The end of the game would reveal the split in humanity then montage the following events and crisis with what happened during the human-forerunner war as seen in the terminals.
The Halo series would then reveal that all along we have been discovering what humans had created.
“We were Forerunners all along?”
> @ajw34307
> I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
>
> I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death.
I’ve previously said that I’d like John to have a final, proper end by killing him off, but I’m open to him having an ambiguous fate. The whole Preston Cole business was written really well in Evolutions, it’d be an interesting parallel to make as well since Cole was pretty much as big of a legend to humanity as John is.
The more I think about it, the more I’m liking the idea of a hopeful ending to the series. When the greatest threat in the universe comes knocking on our galaxy again, the petty squabbles currently going on between the various factions aren’t really going to mean much. It’d be nice if this results in them working together through the conflict and emerging from it with a greater sense of unity and understanding, leading to future cooperation - I feel that this should have been a more overt element of post-Halo 3 fiction in the first place with a larger emphasis on the Forerunner aspect of the story, rather than bringing the Covenant back in what feels like a bit of a disproportionate manner.
> @ajw34307
> I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
>
> <mark>I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death</mark>.
EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS. I’ve been saying this for a while now in other thread(s).
Leave it to us to wonder if he’s dead or alive, while at the same time we KNOW that Humanity is now safe once and for all.
The End.
> @ajw34307
> I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
>
> I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death.
Same.
As for the Reclaimer Saga, I want the final battle, or final mission if need be, of Halo 6 to take place in Path Kethona, or some other extragalactic location. Really brings in the scale of the Precursor threat, that the whole universe is at stake.
For the Sage… I don’t really know.
But I want Halo’s last story to be the Halo Array firing again.
A collection of different races emerging from a highly-advanced spaceship on an uncharted planet with a hopeful narration would be good for me. Perhaps even AIs with full-sized hardlight forms just to give them something cool to look forward to?
Slow pan over the Halos. With a thought provoking question.
> > @ajw34307
> > I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
> >
> > <mark>I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death</mark>.
>
> EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS. I’ve been saying this for a while now in other thread(s).
>
> Leave it to us to wonder if he’s dead or alive, while at the same time we KNOW that <mark>Humanity</mark> is now safe once and for all.
>
> The End.
Why must things always revolve around Humanity? What about the other races that we’ve known and loved (or hated)? What about the Sangheili? What about the Uggnoy? What about the Jiralhanae? Or the Kig-Yar and the Lekgolo?
There are countless forms of life in this Galaxy, and all of them are equally as important as our own. Let’s not forget that.
> > > @ajw34307
> > > I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
> > >
> > > <mark>I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death</mark>.
> >
> > EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS. I’ve been saying this for a while now in other thread(s).
> >
> > Leave it to us to wonder if he’s dead or alive, while at the same time we KNOW that <mark>Humanity</mark> is now safe once and for all.
> >
> > The End.
>
> Why must things always revolve around Humanity? What about the other races that we’ve known and loved (or hated)? What about the Sangheili? What about the Uggnoy? What about the Jiralhanae? Or the Kig-Yar and the Lekgolo?
>
> There are countless forms of life in this Galaxy, and all of them are equally as important as our own. Let’s not forget that.
I’m sure he meant nothing against the other races, but it’s natural to root for your own species (especially since they were the main victims of a terrible genocide).
> A collection of different races emerging from a highly-advanced spaceship on an uncharted planet with a hopeful narration would be good for me. Perhaps even AIs with full-sized hardlight forms just to give them something cool to look forward to?
Remember Rebirth, when all the species on the Ark got along? I’d be up for a parallel of that story in the current times. After war with the Precursors/Flood, in which many have suffered and died, the various races will get over their petty differences and help each other to rebuild.
> > > > @ajw34307
> > > > I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
> > > >
> > > > <mark>I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death</mark>.
> > >
> > > EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS. I’ve been saying this for a while now in other thread(s).
> > >
> > > Leave it to us to wonder if he’s dead or alive, while at the same time we KNOW that <mark>Humanity</mark> is now safe once and for all.
> > >
> > > The End.
> >
> > Why must things always revolve around Humanity? What about the other races that we’ve known and loved (or hated)? What about the Sangheili? What about the Uggnoy? What about the Jiralhanae? Or the Kig-Yar and the Lekgolo?
> >
> > There are countless forms of life in this Galaxy, and all of them are equally as important as our own. Let’s not forget that.
>
> I’m sure he meant nothing against the other races, but <mark>it’s natural to root for your own species</mark> (especially since they were the main victims of a terrible genocide).
Absolutely. Not that I wish death on other ones, but I (we) come first at the end of the day. If Chief or whomever can save other races that mean us no harm, more power to him.
I think it would have to be the Halos firing.
What better way to end a fictional universe than with the very ‘world-ending-super-weapon’ introduced in the first game, and from which the universe gets it’s name.
> Absolutely. Not that I wish death on other ones, but I (we) come first at the end of the day. If Chief or whomever can save other races that mean us no harm, more power to him.
Yeah, that’s what Halo needs, more jingoist 'Manity! bs.
> > Absolutely. Not that I wish death on other ones, but I (we) come first at the end of the day. If Chief or whomever can save other races that mean us no harm, more power to him.
>
> Yeah, that’s what Halo needs, more jingoist 'Manity! bs.
No one came here for a debate, Cobra. Unity or not, everyone puts their race/faction as the priority.
> > > Absolutely. Not that I wish death on other ones, but I (we) come first at the end of the day. If Chief or whomever can save other races that mean us no harm, more power to him.
> >
> > Yeah, that’s what Halo needs, more jingoist 'Manity! bs.
>
> No one came here for a debate, Cobra. <mark>Unity or not, everyone puts their race/faction as the priority.</mark>
And that is where my ideal conclusion and Creams’c conclusion is going to differ.
> > > > Absolutely. Not that I wish death on other ones, but I (we) come first at the end of the day. If Chief or whomever can save other races that mean us no harm, more power to him.
> > >
> > > Yeah, that’s what Halo needs, more jingoist 'Manity! bs.
> >
> > No one came here for a debate, Cobra. <mark>Unity or not, everyone puts their race/faction as the priority.</mark>
>
> <mark>And that is where my ideal conclusion and Creams’c conclusion is going to differ</mark>.
Fair enough.
> @ajw34307
> I agree. I’d like the series to end with the hope - not necessarily confirmation - that the various races will get along.
>
> I would also like John to have an ambiguous fate at the end. Not like the ending of Halo 3, in which he is still confirmed alive, but more like the ambiguity of Admiral Cole’s supposed death.
This is exactly what I want as well. Hope rather than confirmation that the various races will unite and end conflict in the galaxy - including Forerunners if any survived as many have theorised their return. I’m in three minds of what I want to happen to Chief; I’d very much like for him to have an ambiguous fate rather than a cliche “heroic death”, though I wouldn’t mind the heroic death either. It would fit his character quite well, not to mention that we’ve always seen the Chief as infallible and indestructible, to see him die would be curious. If neither of these events occur, I’d like to see him in retirement. It might have to be a flashforward at the end as he likely wouldn’t retire until he had to, and as we know Johnson was still fighting strong well into his 50s/60s. I’d imagine Chief wouldn’t have to retire until his sixties/ maybe seventies due to his peak condition and the fact that his augmentations are far superior. I’d just like to see him attempt to integrate with society while keeping his “117” moniker rather than taking on a surname as Kurt did.
> > Absolutely. Not that I wish death on other ones, but I (we) come first at the end of the day. If Chief or whomever can save other races that mean us no harm, more power to him.
>
> Yeah, that’s what Halo needs, more jingoist 'Manity! bs.
It’s hardly jingoism, humans have been the protagonists of Halo since it’s conception, of course people root for them.