My son and I had been going through the LASO playlist. We had one mission left in Halo CE. After this 11/26 update, the mission parameters changed, and the number of skulls on LASO went from 8 to 12, including the Iron skull – and of course excluding anything that could possibly help. This went from something that was very hard that we were doing together, to something that is impossible for us. There’s no joy in it for us to try this anymore.
To make matters worse, this update also WIPED OUT MY PROGRESS on my playlists. Although it says I can “resume” my LASO playlist on The Maw, it shows 0/10 missions complete. My progress on the Master Chief Saga playlist shows the same. When I pull up Halo CE Campaign, all of the missions show as if I have completed none of them – even though I had completed everything but The Maw on Legendary co-op (as a consequence of our playing the LASO campaign) and about half of them solo Normal (as I was playing the Master Chief Saga playlist).
Campaign was the only thing I was counting on for the moment, and now YOU WENT AND TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ME.
Holy crap, that really sucks. All that time wasted. At least you two had some fun. I managed to beat the first CE mission by myself with the new updated skull set. It’s still pretty fun - just gotta be more creative now. Haven’t tried the 2nd mission yet. I’m scared to…
Went to sleep, woke up, and I’m still mad about this. I’m sure the hard-core player that can breeze through LASO will laugh at this, but when we started up The Maw on the LASO playlist, and we spent an hour at the Pillar of Autumn’s cafeteria getting killed over and over by the Covenant forces there before ultimately giving up, the look of disappointment on my son’s face when he realized we weren’t going to be able to do it now was heartbreaking. And then to realize that, not only were we stopped there, but all previous progress had been wiped out…
Up until that moment, I thought people trying to return the game for refunds were overreacting, but last night, the thought seriously crossed my mind.
And that’s coming from a guy who bought Spartan Assault four timesand Halo 2 Vista just to get all of the Halo achievements.
I’ve had moments where I’ve had to walk away from the game before, even rage quit a time or six, just because my own lack of skill frustrated me. But this is the first time in 13 years of playing (not continuously, to be sure) that I’ve said to myself, “I don’t want anything to do with this game.”
I know I’ll come back to this in a couple weeks or so, after I’ve reset and relaxed, and sort of mentally “relaunch” the game to myself. But for now, I just don’t want to play it anymore – which is probably the saddest thing I can think to say about it.
Yeah no point playing until the resets are fixed unless like you say you cab breeze through the levels. Remember a lot of these Legendary/LASO play throughs are more about getting passed enemies rather than fighting them.
Once I found that out in Halo 4 it was a lot easier.
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> Yeah no point playing until the resets are fixed unless like you say you cab breeze through the levels. Remember a lot of these Legendary/LASO play throughs are more about getting passed enemies rather than fighting them.
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> Once I found that out in Halo 4 it was a lot easier.
That’ll be my plan when I get back to it – study out some of the speed run techniques and videos. Though speed runs never seem to work out for me in real life like they do on the internet…
I’ve noticed a lot of the videos for LASO runs on CE have been from the Anniversary edition on the 360 and include the Bandana skull – something else I’ve been muttering curses at 343 under my breath for the past couple weeks.
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> > Yeah no point playing until the resets are fixed unless like you say you cab breeze through the levels. Remember a lot of these Legendary/LASO play throughs are more about getting passed enemies rather than fighting them.
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> That’ll be my plan when I get back to it – study out some of the speed run techniques and videos. Though speed runs never seem to work out for me in real life like they do on the internet…
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> I’ve noticed a lot of the videos for LASO runs on CE have been from the Anniversary edition on the 360 and include the Bandana skull – something else I’ve been muttering curses at 343 under my breath for the past couple weeks.
This is something that frustrates me beyond belief.
I am not a very good campaign player. I can’t play Heroic difficulty solo let alone Legendary, which is taking centuries to beat all four campaigns for the Halo 5 armor due to my own lack of skill and the constant crashes and bugs and glitches. But there is something I’ve always understood. LASO stands for “Legendary All Skulls On”, something that 343 clearly does not understand. Playing any of the games on Mythic difficulty was never meant to be more difficult than Legendary due to being much tougher, it was meant to be more difficult than Legendary due to how different the game plays with skull modifiers - even the Silver Skulls. 343 doesn’t understand this and instead of handing us true LASO challenges, they hand us LASOEFACOS challenges (Legendary All Skulls On Except For A Couple Of Skulls).
Dang dude, that really sucks. I beat Outskirts on Legendary which isn’t nearly as tough as LASO but it didn’t save my progress and I spent several hours on it. LASO for Halo 2 would of been hard but manageable with the good skulls, but impossible without them. I understand LASO should be the hardest Halo experience, but I think they should lower it just a little bit to make it doable.
My progress was not reset across playlists but I have completed Halo:CE and 3 on LASO, gotten the achievements and the LASO playlist says that I have completed 9/10 and 9/11 levels. Trololol it can’t even register my score on the leaderboards because I “haven’t completed them” though it shows me on them with 0 score. It’s not so frustrating as your situation but I’m just saying…Totally frustrating. I can understand server, MP and connectivity issues, but campaign issues are unacceptable! I can understand that testing may be beyond some issues on servers and connectivity but if the campaign doesn’t work too, then there is a problem.
The bandana skull was the saving grace for Halo CEA. Having played Halo for 13 years that skull alone brought back the fun fresh feel. I was gutted to learn it was taken out. I sincerely hope that with the fixes and Halo 2 preorder skull releases comes the availability of all the skulls in all the games.
ps. I’m peeved that Halo 2 legendary still uses iron skull as standard.
It seems like they gave you help without the Iron skull and they noticed that it wasn’t in the LASO playlist so they decided to put it backup it wasn’t LASO when the Iron skull is not there. Therefore you weren’t really doing LASO, you were just playing the campaign with MSO Most skulls on, if you guys really think about it, it’s a good change because now the Halo CE: LASO playlist is fixed and now has LASO now active and I’m going to get so much hate on this comment because I’m kind of thanking 343i for LASO change, but if you really think about it, it’s a good change. But I am glad you and your son had a good time together I know me and my Dad would never even pass the first level on LASO let alone on Legendary. We suck together when we play that is all haha.
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> It seems like they gave you help without the Iron skull and they noticed that it wasn’t in the LASO playlist so they decided to put it backup it wasn’t LASO when the Iron skull is not there. Therefore you weren’t really doing LASO, you were just playing the campaign with MSO Most skulls on, if you guys really think about it, it’s a good change because now the Halo CE: LASO playlist is fixed and now has LASO now active and I’m going to get so much hate on this comment because I’m kind of thanking 343i for LASO change, but if you really think about it, it’s a good change. But I am glad you and your son had a good time together I know me and my Dad would never even pass the first level on LASO let alone on Legendary. We suck together when we play that is all haha.
“Good” is subjective, but I understand your argument. By adding Iron, they made the LASO playlist more correct, where it’s exclusion was a bug.
However, if they’re going to turn more skulls on, they need to turn them all on. Give us Bandana, if we’ve unlocked it. Heck, give us Scarab Gun. The skulls are there. Let us use them, instead of making the requirements so punishingly hard that there’s no chance for us regular joes that just want to play the game, not make it a career.
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> > It seems like they gave you help without the Iron skull and they noticed that it wasn’t in the LASO playlist so they decided to put it backup it wasn’t LASO when the Iron skull is not there. Therefore you weren’t really doing LASO, you were just playing the campaign with MSO Most skulls on, if you guys really think about it, it’s a good change because now the Halo CE: LASO playlist is fixed and now has LASO now active and I’m going to get so much hate on this comment because I’m kind of thanking 343i for LASO change, but if you really think about it, it’s a good change. But I am glad you and your son had a good time together I know me and my Dad would never even pass the first level on LASO let alone on Legendary. We suck together when we play that is all haha.
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> “Good” is subjective, but I understand your argument. By adding Iron, they made the LASO playlist more correct, where it’s exclusion was a bug.
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> However, if they’re going to turn more skulls on, they need to turn them all on. Give us Bandana, if we’ve unlocked it. Heck, give us Scarab Gun. The skulls are there. Let us use them, instead of making the requirements so punishingly hard that there’s no chance for us regular joes that just want to play the game, not make it a career.
I understand the frustration, and this is why I’ve held off doing LASO until they’ve fully fixed the game. But Bandana and Scarab would cheapen the experience and make the achievements and the point of doing LASO in the first place moot. LASO is supposed to be extremely hard, stupidly hard. In today’s world of hand-out achievements, I’m glad these ones aren’t meant for everyone.
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Why does everyone think Helioskrill is for LASO? It’s for beating all games just Legendary. No skulls needed.
I am in the same position in OP regarding the skull change but my progress from pre-patch wasn’t wiped so there must be some kind of bug there. Boom just makes it impossible.
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> > > It seems like they gave you help without the Iron skull and they noticed that it wasn’t in the LASO playlist so they decided to put it backup it wasn’t LASO when the Iron skull is not there. Therefore you weren’t really doing LASO, you were just playing the campaign with MSO Most skulls on, if you guys really think about it, it’s a good change because now the Halo CE: LASO playlist is fixed and now has LASO now active and I’m going to get so much hate on this comment because I’m kind of thanking 343i for LASO change, but if you really think about it, it’s a good change. But I am glad you and your son had a good time together I know me and my Dad would never even pass the first level on LASO let alone on Legendary. We suck together when we play that is all haha.
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> I understand the frustration, and this is why I’ve held off doing LASO until they’ve fully fixed the game. But Bandana and Scarab would cheapen the experience and make the achievements and the point of doing LASO in the first place moot. LASO is supposed to be extremely hard, stupidly hard. In today’s world of hand-out achievements, I’m glad these ones aren’t meant for everyone.
We have different views on achievements, then. But that’s fine. I expect there are a lot of people who will think it’s better this way, and where I find disappointment they’ll find satisfaction.
I don’t think achievements should all be of the hand-out variety, but I also don’t think they should be “stupidly hard”. I mean, I know I suck, I get that, but even then I’ve had a goal to get all of the Halo achievements, and up until now I’ve actually succeeded. It’s a bitter pill to know I won’t be able to this time.
Meanwhile people are thanking them on another thread…