are you serious?
I am not going to bash you but stop man.
These are your own words.
stop.
let go.
Look gaming is toxic, always has been and always will be. Youāll have some horrible people in your lobbies from time to time. But Iād rather deal with those people on occasion then have to deal with people who give zero communication. Even if its bad communication and the team just canāt get in a rhythm you have a higher probability of winning matches when teammates are sharing/attempting to share information.
As stated above having a filter added to search where you can search for otherās with a mic would be very beneficial. Something has to change because in itās current state ranked just isnāt truly competitive.
Theres a ping system for a reason. It tends to be quite specific. Also the spartans will make call outs completely on their own. So just pay attention.
You may feel this way, but I donāt think thereās a way to really prove thatā¦ GOOD communication can help win games yes, but some stranger spending 4 seconds trying to explain āThe small room above the uhhā¦ above the bridge.ā doesnāt really inspire confidence that it will help a team win.
This right here is an opinion, it doesnāt help much becuase I do not feel that way, I would prefer it to be vice versa, so weāre stuck here unable to progress on that point.
Yes, this is something I can agree on, a filter is both reasonable and practical, a much better idea than what you originally had. I donāt suppose you can update the thread title? Youād probably get a lot more support that way.
Except matchmaking is not random, emphasis on the word āmatchā.
The system is ideally matching both teammates and opponents at your level, with similar win / loss rates. Having a mic / headset preference in addition to the many factors the matchmaking system already considers, in my opinion, would absolutely help make things better. The system could try to do this, and if it doesnāt, it doesnāt.
I see your point that people may have a headset always plugged in to listen. I wonder what the data would be on this. But ideally, the system would favor those who have checked the āmic / headset preferenceā box by matching them together.
To illustrate my point, if you go into ālooking for groupā on Halo Infinite, one of the tags Iām always seeing is āmic required.ā Surely thereās a way to automate that by giving players a way to enter that metadata into Halo Infinite themselves? I agree this idea isnāt full proof. But I do think itās an idea worth exploring.
I ultimately think it just wouldnāt matter. There are people as randoms that as I said, do have their mic set up but just use it for the game audio more than anything. Iāve also seen many many of these same people in their own private party. Iāve had good games with randoms that I thought did not have a mic, invite them and sure enough they actually had a mic all along but just were in their own private party. Each and every time Iāve asked why they did this, they told me because of player toxicity. I canāt blame them for that.
They can add a box to check. Sure. It still isnāt going to be this magical fix though. You do realize we enter matches with as little as a 30% win chance against our opponents sometimes right? That the Match making isnāt this 50/50 split right? We get matches that we are favored to win, matches where weāre under dogs and and then completely lopsided matches. This is all backed in the match history of our games on halo tracker. It isnāt this super fair match making finding players of equal skill at all times. Those matches do exist, but they arenāt every single match. The frustrating experience of āwhy is this (insert lower ranked player) on my team when they have (insert higher ranked players) Times 3 on their team?ā All due to the match maker. Purposely.
Playing with a mic helps though of course. I had a game with a random that was an onyx rank in my lobby. He had a mic and knew none of the call outs. Lol so thereās instances where despite having a micā¦you still have that random aspect. You arenāt even going to know if people know call outsā¦I donāt expect perfect playersā¦no one should if youāre subjecting yourself to random team mates. Itās still always better to use your own means to find players that fit the criteria you wish them to haveā¦and just invite the players youāve played well with that happened to be randoms. Some randoms use mics and use them as we do, some donātā¦the experience is still random and would more than likely still be random with a box checked off. But sure, why not. There should be a box for region filters and input filters while weāre at it.
The obvious reasons why things like this arenāt already In the game though, is to have faster match making times. It worsens the quality for us as a consequence, but they see faster match making as the main goal. It is also why we sometimes have matches where our win percentage chance In the Match is extremely low. Weāre at times just filling slots, where the outcome of the match doesnāt matter. It all happens just for the sake of having that match made faster. Where winning team gets exactly 1 csr point and losing gets -1csr. Basically not noticeable at all. Upsets are a possibility, but Iām talking about the extremely lopsided matches. Not sure why they exist in a new game that should have a healthy enough population to not have those incidentsā¦though they definitely happen. Point Iām trying to make if Iām not being clear though, is that more filters in place slow the timer. Halo 5 had a preference for searches. Even that isnāt in this game.
Thereās quite a bit missing from this game that all the other games have had thoughā¦I hope that all changes sooner rather than laterā¦
Yeah and I am saying I got onyx too, without forcing my teamates to squawk useless information. ābudā
Note that I said āideally.ā Note that I also said this idea isnāt āfull proofā. Thereās no need to be condescending with the āyou do realizeā responses on your second paragraph.
I do think you make some fair points, I also think you downplay the possibility of improving the matchmaking system so that it considers additional factors / metadata when matching. Even if you donāt think it will work, no one knows if this idea will work for sure until 343 tests / tries it.
I will say 80% of the matches Iāve played where people I matched with were using mics, I had a far more positive experience and often won. Not always though. Sometimes I didnāt win, and yes ā agreed, thatās because there are additional factors. However, most of the time people were very thankful someone else was on a mic, as was I.
I donāt see why we cannot have a system that helps those people find one another and automate that. I guess we just disagree on a lot, and thatās fine.
Donāt take the words the wrong way. I canāt convey tone, and it wasnāt meant as an insult. This Is why I said what I said to you. Pointing it out, for you to realize that despite you saying thisā¦time and time again we find it isnāt the case. Ideally, sureā¦more often than not thoughā¦weāre just finding it aināt happening as much as it should.
It wouldnāt hurt to add a filter. A preference. Iām just saying that it probably wonāt be as effective as one would thinkā¦but perhaps even a just helping a little bit is appreciated vs not at all. You might think I disagree on the ideaā¦I donāt really disagree with it. I disagree that it will have an extremely good effectā¦I would love to be wrong about this of courseā¦I disagree that itās even feasible to believe it could be added right now when theyāre so focused on crap we donāt care aboutā¦like adding animal ears to our Spartansā¦
As Iāve said though. Adding additional filters are a much needed quality of life update for us all, and a mic preference filter would be gladly accepted by everyone and hopefully not backfire with nothing but toxic idiots using it to insult players rather than communicating and enjoying the game together.
Didnāt mean to sound condescending. Iām sorry if it seemed that was my intention. Itās like caps locking my words sometimes. Iām too lazy to bold them. So i cap them instead and it probably comes off a different way when people read it.
1 Like
You have to pay $14.99 to play ranked, according to OP. You evne have to pay for ranked let alone content in this game it seems.
Older games like Call of Duty and Rainbow Six have forced this in the past and itās worked fine. If people donāt want to communicate then they shouldnāt be playing ranked.
Cool. Iāll just mute my mic and turn team chat volume to 1
I donāt want some racist, homophobic teenager vaping in my ear
Ladies and gentlemen, alt thread title: How to kill Ranked with a single idea
I donāt even play ranked, but this would kill the population for ranked then youād be whining about low player count.