From the simple perspective of common sense, Halo 5 needs more precision weapons and precision-based gameplay. Nearly every rifle should be available as a starting loadout, and there need to be more rifles available to unlock (why is there no .50 cal. to bridge the gap between the sniper rifle and BR/DMR?). Just because a weapon requires a steadier aim to master using it, I shouldn’t be punished by an AR and SMG that literally take no effort to use other than positioning differently around the maps in order to grab easy kills. The conversation really ends here for me. A lot of you guys lack a real knowledgeable understanding of gameplay and balance. Every single thing you guys presuppose about precision weapons is that they somehow disturb your simplistic urge to flex with an illogical Assault Rifle. Consider, the AR and DMR utilize the very same size cartridge yet they differ immensely in actual performance. I hate when Hollywood realism takes precidence over facts. These rounds have the same kinetic energy. The ballistics would be almost the same, but the AR definitely can’t get a single headshot. I can’t even get a multiplier or special bonus from hitting vital areas with the weapons I’m using. It’s dumb! I’m not stupid enough to buy your crap about how Halo needs less precision weapons. That is, quite frankly, ignorant to say. I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall here on the forums. You guys don’t get it. It’s all wrong!!! The AR doesn’t need to be a five-round slaughter house like a semi-automatic DMR, but at least put it on par with the pistol (5 headshots for a kill out of 12 rounds…) so the AR is a 15 headshot kill. All you have to do is add a bit more recoil and a scope. Really? We’re over 500 years in the future but we don’t use optics on our standard assault rifle. I mean a little tiny sight is usually like 3.5x zoom minimum in real life. For some reason you guys think low 2x zoom is right. IDK seems a bit dodgy. Just my 2 cents on the matter. Anyway. Don’t feel offended, I just want the game to feel more sporty and gritty so it all ties in with the shooting and killing aspect of shooter games.
To my knowledge, no one has ever said that there should be less precision weaponry. I have no idea what you’re on about.
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> To my knowledge, no one has ever said that there should be less precision weaponry. I have no idea what you’re on about.
Plenty of people believe it. Were you ever in the bungie forums during Halo 3? Huge gripe from people over BR vs Assault Rifle.
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I thought you were referring to Halo 5. I’ve never seen people complain about Halo 5 having too many precision weapons.
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So did you mean to post this in the H3 thread?
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> From the simple perspective of common sense, Halo 5 needs more precision weapons and precision-based gameplay. Nearly every rifle should be available as a starting loadout, and there need to be more rifles available to unlock (why is there no .50 cal. to bridge the gap between the sniper rifle and BR/DMR?). Just because a weapon requires a steadier aim to master using it, I shouldn’t be punished by an AR and SMG that literally take no effort to use other than positioning differently around the maps in order to grab easy kills. The conversation really ends here for me. A lot of you guys lack a real knowledgeable understanding of gameplay and balance. Every single thing you guys presuppose about precision weapons is that they somehow disturb your simplistic urge to flex with an illogical Assault Rifle. Consider, the AR and DMR utilize the very same size cartridge yet they differ immensely in actual performance. I hate when Hollywood realism takes precidence over facts. These rounds have the same kinetic energy. The ballistics would be almost the same, but the AR definitely can’t get a single headshot. I can’t even get a multiplier or special bonus from hitting vital areas with the weapons I’m using. It’s dumb! I’m not stupid enough to buy your crap about how Halo needs less precision weapons. That is, quite frankly, ignorant to say. I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall here on the forums. You guys don’t get it. It’s all wrong!!! The AR doesn’t need to be a five-round slaughter house like a semi-automatic DMR, but at least put it on par with the pistol (5 headshots for a kill out of 12 rounds…) so the AR is a 15 headshot kill. All you have to do is add a bit more recoil and a scope. Really? We’re over 500 years in the future but we don’t use optics on our standard assault rifle. I mean a little tiny sight is usually like 3.5x zoom minimum in real life. For some reason you guys think low 2x zoom is right. IDK seems a bit dodgy. Just my 2 cents on the matter. Anyway. Don’t feel offended, I just want the game to feel more sporty and gritty so it all ties in with the shooting and killing aspect of shooter games.
I’m a bit confused here, do you want to have more effective precision weapons or more effective assault weapons or…?
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You’re calling people backwards, because your poll didn’t go the way you wanted it to?
They did load outs as you say in H4 and majority seemed to hate it. What makes you think the current sniper rifle isn’t a 50 cal? It’s a pretty hefty sniper rifle. There are plenty of precision weapons in H5 IMO.
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Yeah and my impression is that these guys are backwards. Hence…
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> They did load outs as you say in H4 and majority seemed to hate it. What makes you think the current sniper rifle isn’t a 50 cal? It’s a pretty hefty sniper rifle. There are plenty of precision weapons in H5 IMO.
The sniper rifle is a lot bigger than a .50. I think it’s something like a 14.5mm. A .50 would be 12.7mm.
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So it’s just over .50 cal. I don’t see how slightly smaller caliber sniper rifle would add to Halo. Especially seeing how we have two different beam rifles (Covie sniper rifles) and the binary rifle…
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So basically Halo 4. Look how well that went.
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According to the wiki it is a .57 cal.
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Halo is really based on equal starts… every one having the same starting weapons.
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It’s a lot more powerful than a .50 cal. It’s not just the bullet size. The shell for the sniper rifle bullet is a lot longer than that of a .50 caliber BMG.
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I know… but was does a slightly weaker sniper rifle that you are proposing add to Halo? As of now it pretty much goes. BR, DMR, then sniper rifle… you want. BR, DMR, .50 cal sniper rifle then current sniper rifle… what purpose or niche would that slightly smaller sniper rifle fill? Would it still be a one head shot weapon? Or since it is a smaller caliber would it be a two head shot weapon?
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Probably 2 to 2.5 headshots. Why?
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I just don’t think a two head shot sniper rifle is needed nor would it be liked to much. I think DMRs fill the role between BRs and sniper rifles nicely.
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I don’t see why it wouldn’t be a fun weapon to wield, especially if I could use it as a starting weapon so long as my req level is high enough.
We have 3 sniper rifles. Another one would be redundant.
It’s a pretty big sandbox at this point. I feel like we have a least one tool(weapon) for each job.