Every review I have seen that has been sour looks exactly like the reviews If you read back on Halo 2’s reviews…
" I didn’t know what was happening"
“The story falls flat”
“Cliffhanger”
“Shallow story line”
… Sound familiar??
Also everyone said that there is extensive lore… great! Halo fans will love it, but if you dont know halo… you probably wont know what the heck is going on! Almost every sub 90 reviewer said they were getting less and less interested in Halo as the series ran… meaning they probably give zero -Yoink- whats actually happening in the canonical story.
Would you expect someone who has never seen any star wars movie ever, or someone that enjoyed the prequel series to know whats happening in “The Empire Strikes Back”?
Yeah, the reviews for the game are really baffling me.
You have a ton of reviewers that say that the Halo 5 story is one of the best of the series and then you have the other side that are taking off so many points off the score just for the story itself.
Really odd, honestly.
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> Also everyone said that there is extensive lore… great! Halo fans will love it, but if you dont know halo… you probably wont know what the hell is going on!
Not seeing the problem here.
You’re right. Jumping into the FIFTH game of a series with no experience or memory of the previous games and going “hurr durr idk whats happening lolol” just exemplifies how far gaming journalism has fallen.
Hopefully that’s the case, Halo 2 had the best story in my opinion, but it may be hard for some to follow. 343i really needs to learn to make a self contained story.
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> > Also everyone said that there is extensive lore… great! Halo fans will love it, but if you dont know halo… you probably wont know what the hell is going on!
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> Not seeing the problem here.
No there’s no problem, but people are negatively hitting Halo 5 because they don’t understand what’s happening… yet they don’t know the story or lore leading up the the event and they clearly state it in their reviews.
I read similar reviews saying that, blue team seemed stale and seldom showed as much character as Osiris blah blah.
I’m just sitting there like, you lucky -Yoink-, you got to dive into the next step of an epic saga, headfirst before everyone else and all you do is criticize a plot and characters you havent kept up on since halo 2.
If your going to shank a Game, you better understand that a game with 5 at the end of it, has 4 WHOLE BEGINNING TO END STORIES, LEADING TO THE CURRENT EVENTS. (NOT INCLUDING BOOKS, SPIN OFFS ETC)
“where’s the flood?”
The -Yoink- you mean where’s the flood?
Bloody casuals man.
Yeah, Its just kind of painful watching something I know im going to love get torn apart by idiots that haven’t done their homework before reviewing a game.
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> Hopefully that’s the case, Halo 2 had the best story in my opinion, but it may be hard for some to follow. 343i really needs to learn to make a self contained story.
That’s not really possible in a multi-episodic epic.
Star Wars IV would be the one exception to that, IMO, but V and VI don’t make a whole lot of sense without IV. Who’s this guy hanging in carbonite? Why are all these people upset that Boba ended up in the sarlacc without scoring a single hit on anyone?
Context matters, and if anyone knows anything about Halo they know that there’s a deeper story at work and they need to at least be aware of it and in some cases really aware of it. If you hate 5 because you don’t get the story, infinitive you here not directed at you OP, then you have no one but yourself to blame for that.
Reviewers rate games for their own ratings, not based on the games they are “reviewing”. Of course, then there are the “paid” reviews.
Look at Destiny TTK “expansion”. Rave reviews (some paid for) for an “improved” story. Considering Destiny had no “story” to begin with ANYTHING was an improvement. Then there were some glowing reviews of the “content”.
Re-hashed previous content with repetitive grinding gets rave reviews? In short, if you pay enough or offer future exclusive access you get better reviews.
Star Wars is a poor example, since those begin with text crawl recaps. But to ignore those, you’re comparing different scenarios. The heroes meeting Lando and Han getting captured happened in the film. Not a book, or anime, or comic, but in the previous film which one would be expected to watch before watching RotJ. Someone complaining that they don’t know who Lando is and why Han is a rock would be an -Yoink- for that reason. Referencing an event from Halo 4 is fair game, but the EU is not for that reason. Take it from Plinkett.
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> Star Wars is a poor example, since those begin with text crawl recaps. But to ignore those, you’re comparing different scenarios. The heroes meeting Lando and Han getting captured happened in the film. Not a book, or anime, or comic, but in the previous film which one would be expected to watch before watching RotJ. Referencing an event from Halo 4 is fair game, but the EU is not for that reason. Take it from Plinkett.
Well, since the canon is fairly flat for Halo, in that it either is or isn’t typically, you don’t run into the same problem you do with Star Wars and G canon then other layers. So any reference made to Halo canon is fair game, IMO.
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> Hopefully that’s the case, Halo 2 had the best story in my opinion, but it may be hard for some to follow. 343i really needs to learn to make a self contained story.
What I’ve seen so far in trailers and #huntthetruth audio series has more story than all of Destiny and it’s DLCs.
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> It’s the responsibility of the developer’s to make a good story that makes sense even if you’re new to the series.
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> You should be able to make sense of the narrative without knowing anything going in. Anything less is poor writing.
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> You must hate the Metal Gear series.
To be fair, obtuse, convoluted, and overcomplicated plot is one of the most common complaints people have about the series. If I hadn’t gotten into it when I did, I’d probably feel the same way.
that actually sounds great to me, that’s exactly how it should be in a more than 10 years old product . how can anyone expect that no previous knowledge is required in the fifth main title of the franchise. Everyone who cares about the plot and is new to halo will read into the lore without crying about it, the others are just whining for the sake of whining.
That’s like jumping into the third Mass Effect game and having a clue as to what’s going on. And that game even has time to breath and fill you in a bit but it still is bewildering to new players story wise.
I’ll reserve judgement until I see the campaign, I usually hold off on reading reviews (for fear of spoilers, obviously,) but tend to read a few to make sure I’m considering different viewpoints. Lets me inform friends better if they ask about the game or if they should get it.
You make a great point. If the person isn’t interest in the lore of a game that is now in its sixth (?) major installment, it is very likely that they won’t understand the campaign to its full intention.
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> It’s the responsibility of the developer’s to make a good story that makes sense even if you’re new to the series.
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That’s what the Master Chief collection and Fall of Reach animated series is for.