Yeah the XP System is Awful

Give us base XP ffs 343, there is no need to reinvent the wheel here.

It’s pretty lame to play a game, do well, earn medals, go on Killing Sprees, eliminating people with headshots, roll the entire team with a 20 point difference, and not get anything to show for it (should have played around your challenges pepeLaugh).

I thought it sounded bad before but now that I’m playing it… Hooo boy, people weren’t joking around.

As of right now, this is a complete waste of the player’s time and a pretty upsetting XP system that doesn’t reward you for doing well. I think people will just play another game that actually rewards them for playing however they want and being good at the game, rather than waste time on a game that forces you into a playstyle just for the sake of progression and leveling up their Battle Pass.

Almost instantly my desire to grind the Multiplayer has dissipated. If I have to be shoehorned into playing a specific way, I’m out.

Big L 343. Turn this around guys, base XP for medals and winning is an easy W.

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I agree with this statement

The challenges are decent. But we need a base experience gain. 77-177 experience per game played based on how well you do would be perfect.

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> The challenges are decent. But we need a base experience gain. 77-177 experience per game played based on how well you do would be perfect.

Anything at all is better than this.

I’m so annoyed that I’ve played 3 games in a row where I had 2.0 and higher KD, won with 20 kills over the other team, and have nothing to show for it.
Even Fall Guys rewards players for doing better than others ffs. Like what gives?

The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,

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> The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,

they are literally the same thing. Both take time to level and use xp. Ranks literally mean nothing when its an xp based level system.

Agreed. This needs to change for the longevity of the game, 100%.

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> The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,

Exactly!! I don’t understand it, not one bit.

There is no difference from being the Top of the Winning team and being The Bottom of the Losing team. Everybody gets participation XP.

I’ve never seen an XP system this bad.

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> > The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,
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> they are literally the same thing. Both take time to level and use xp. Ranks literally mean nothing when its an xp based level system.

So your going to tell me there’s no difference between grinding to level 100 on a battle pass without much to show for it vs grinding to inheritor rank where everyone can scream in fear when they see you?

I just want to play for fun. But then there’s a part of me that feels obligated to get that Weekly Challenge done, like pick up the Sniper or Bulldog and get some kills with it, or Capture a Flag. I want base EXP gain so I can get fair compensation for just playing the way I want to, not for how the game wants to me to play.

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> I just want to play for fun. But then there’s a part of me that feels obligated to get that Weekly Challenge done, like pick up the Sniper or Bulldog and get some kills with it, or Capture a Flag. I want base EXP gain so I can get fair compensation for just playing the way I want to, not for how the game wants to me to play.

I think grinding the game is fun, but I’m not being rewarded for being better than the losing team and it’s absolutely infuriating. Players like to feel like they aren’t just wasting their time and that their investment in a game is being validated with rewards or ranks.

If the game ships with no ranking system, or a baseline XP for medals and winning, it will absolutely kill the game on launch.

I agree 100%

Please address this 343. I don’t think the community wants this.

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> > > The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,
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> > they are literally the same thing. Both take time to level and use xp. Ranks literally mean nothing when its an xp based level system.
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> So your going to tell me there’s no difference between grinding to level 100 on a battle pass without much to show for it vs grinding to inheritor rank where everyone can scream in fear when they see you?

no one screams in fear of you having inheritor. Inheritor is just a time sink as is lvl 100 of the bp. Yes, they are the exact same only instead of a rank its a number

I’ve been tossing around the idea of separate ranks. How I understand it right now, our current “Rank” counts towards the Battle Pass, so I can see why they are making it take forever. But what if we had a generic XP rank and then a Battle Pass rank? Challenges completed would count towards both XP and BP rank.
Thoughts?

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> > > > The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,
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> > > they are literally the same thing. Both take time to level and use xp. Ranks literally mean nothing when its an xp based level system.
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> > So your going to tell me there’s no difference between grinding to level 100 on a battle pass without much to show for it vs grinding to inheritor rank where everyone can scream in fear when they see you?
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> no one screams in fear of you having inheritor. Inheritor is just a time sink as is lvl 100 of the bp. Yes, they are the exact same only instead of a rank its a number

Eh, what can I say? I enjoy big numbers that keep going up, I don’t see the harm in having both. Call me old I guess :slight_smile:

Yeah… I feel like every kill should be like 1xp, a win 10xp, and maybe every medal 1xp. Doesn’t need to be a lot, but there definitely needs to be a reason for me not to just play goofy chasing challenges.

Challenges should be focused around what the lobbies need to balance queues. Not enough CTF happening, queue up some CTF challenges. BUT, everyone earns XP playing. Reward people for playing.

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> > > The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,
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> > they are literally the same thing. Both take time to level and use xp. Ranks literally mean nothing when its an xp based level system.
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> So your going to tell me there’s no difference between grinding to level 100 on a battle pass without much to show for it vs grinding to inheritor rank where everyone can scream in fear when they see you?

But both can be achieved by any low skilled player who is prepared to sink enough hours into the game. All you know when you match with an Inheritor is they’ve played the game a lot, it has nothing to do with how good they are at all. If anything in reach it was easier to get to Inheritor and suck because so many of the challenges were campaign and firefight based.

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> > > > The alpha was worse you gained nothing for playing! Now its slightly less worse? At least you earn something for enough matches played… yay? Honestly by the sounds of it there won’t be many reasons to grind other then the battle pass, no rank system from what I’ve heard? Weird xp system for sure,
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> > > they are literally the same thing. Both take time to level and use xp. Ranks literally mean nothing when its an xp based level system.
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> > So your going to tell me there’s no difference between grinding to level 100 on a battle pass without much to show for it vs grinding to inheritor rank where everyone can scream in fear when they see you?
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> no one screams in fear of you having inheritor. Inheritor is just a time sink as is lvl 100 of the bp. Yes, they are the exact same only instead of a rank its a number

You’re really missing the point. The Reach system gave you base XP which speeds up the Rank Grind, Infinite couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- and rewards everybody the exact same XP regardless of if you were responsible for half of the kills required to win the match.

Come off it my dude. They are not the same at all.

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> I’ve been tossing around the idea of separate ranks. How I understand it right now, our current “Rank” counts towards the Battle Pass, so I can see why they are making it take forever. But what if we had a generic XP rank and then a Battle Pass rank? Challenges completed would count towards both XP and BP rank.
> Thoughts?

The game needs to reward players for doing good.

I don’t care about watching a number go up, I want to earn XP based on my performance (challenges would just be the cherry on top). Being better than other players and getting more kills and medals should factor into how fast somebody climbs the ranks/Battle Pass.