XIM devices basically trick your PC into thinking you’re using a controller. That means mouse and keyboard players get aim assist which is intentionally removed by 343 in order to even the playing field between mouse vs controller players. It’s impossible to compete against this and I’m not sure what the solution is. Mine would be to allow console players to close themselves off from interacting with PC players.
Image below is a capture of a XIM user I played against. Stats such as these are humanly impossible unless my team was afk, which they weren’t.
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Apparently I’m disallowed to post images in a post but the player went 45/5 with 69.51 accuracy in a team snipers match.
Allegedly it’s simple as using a USB hub to connect all peripherals, but I’m on a gaming laptop so can’t test it properly to confirm the exploit.
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/whats-the-best-way-to-play/523271
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Yeah tbh I think this is going to take awhile with how slow things have been updating.
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I’m all for the option to be able to disable crossplay, but just so you know the xim is designed for consoles so you’ll come across xim players on console as well. It just happens to also work on PC games that have aim assist enabled.
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Oh, is that right? Please tell me more
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https://twitter.com/AnchorNine/status/1532490233090039808?t=mzPbfef067rjp0u47-iYsQ&s=19
Apparently mice get a scaled down version of aim assist.
That the native part every pc user gets on the mice.
Now the xim? I hear it’s basically circumventing that and adding the full 100%. Which is a cheat.
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How do you know for certain they were using XIM?
Alongside this, I was under the impression that XIM emulated controller on consoles, not PC as there’s official support for controller integration on PC.
The common deduction was that XIM with aim assist actually impaired personal performance due to the mechanical nature of using fine motor skills being overridden by artificial aim adjustment.
This was a hot topic at one point in Overwatch until players actually tried it and reported that there was actually a slightly negative effect instead of a noticeably positive one, and this was widely tested and accepted within that community. In fact, if I’m not mistaken XIM actually recommends you disable AA for this reason.
I never tried it personally but having been a part of XIM topics on the Overwatch forums and Reddit, the comparison between true MNK, XIM, Controller, XIM AA, and Controller (AA disabled) put them squarely in that exact order from most effective to least effective.
For now I’m going to stand by the assertion that using XIM with aim assist enabled is largely an overblown and misunderstood issue, and that the use of XIM (as intended) in the first place is rendered moot by the addition of official input selection. I also believe that using XIM in situations where MNK isn’t available is cheating due to circumvention of established support, even if it’s ultimately an inferior bastardization of what it’s supposed to emulate.
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You missed the point. Crossplay isn’t the problem, the point of using the XIM is to play on console with mnk and full aim assist. Taking out pc players would do nothing to fix the problem.
That said, using a XIM is cheating
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Funny how everyone blames PC crossplay despite the fact Xbox supports mouse and keyboard also.
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Yeah that’s pretty dumb. The real issue are the companies that are making cheat products to circumvent the game’s competitive integrity. People need to start suing them.
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This is not accurate and that clip proves nothing. The user is using their mouse to track the player, they need to NOT touch the mouse to see the crosshair pull to the other player. Either way, I can assure you there is no mouse assist. Unless they recently added it? Doubt it but I haven’t touched Halo in months.
He’s the one with the stats.
Go take that up with him. For the most part I believe him. I mean it’s Anchor.gg
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There will always be cheaters/hackers in a free-to-play game because, and this bears repeating, it’s a free-to-play game.
If a hacker/cheater gets banned on one account, they can instantly make another and start playing again.
If the entire game was $60, not just the campaign, there would be far fewer cases of hacking/cheating. Paywalled multiplayer is the only thing that deters these kinds of losers from ruining the online experience for others.
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PC crossplay is still a reason for hackers, not just cheaters, ruining the experience for console gamers. Your statement is moot.
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The “experience” is gaming. It’s connecting and playing with friends despite what platform they may play on. It’s not a console or PC experience but a gaming one in general. If you’re naïve enough to believe that there are no “hackers” on console then you should probably stop playing all together. Is it easier and more common on PC? Sure. But cheating is cheating. No matter the platform.
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Thanks for the information. I didn’t know they were available for console players as well so that renders my solution null.
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Well, you think it’s humanely possible for someone to achieve 45 kills at 70% accuracy in a team snipers match? No one on my team was afk or “not trying”.
45 of his teams 50 kills needed to win and firing at 70% accuracy. If you believe that’s legit I’ve got a bridge to sell you!
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Heard and a valid point actually. I forgot console players can use m&kb.
I’m relieved you agree that XIM use is cheating. I love Halo as much as everyone else.
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Thanks for everyone’s input. Different perspectives allow us to fully see the picture as a whole. Keep it coming, maybe a mod will bring this to someone’s attention that can actually do something. Also, I never intended for my “solution” to make anyone feel a certain way, or ostracize the PC community. The more people playing the franchise I love ensures it has a long life span. I don’t have all the answers and apologies to any PC player who felt personally attacked by my solution.