They should have been fixed up. Lets be honest here. The original xbox one’s policy brought A LOT of new functions to the xbox. Things that would have made gaming so much better. The problem was that it had some issues that also meant we lost some functionality that we have grown accustomed to. Of coarse people rightfully complained but we shouldn’t have complained to remove everything completely but complained for the problems to just be fixed.
Now what where the problems? Well the 4 problems were, Not being able to sell and buy used games to companies, not being able to sell and buy used games to people and small stores or being able to lend games, not being able to play offline after 24 hours, and not being able to play offline in general.
Now how do you fix this? Well for both of the offline problems you just simply allow people to put the disk in when playing offline. It accomplishes the same goal as online DRM. It means that not more than one person is using the game where others who do play online can enjoy not swapping their disks and being able to play their game library anywhere ect.
Now how do you fix the used game problem? Well MS already addressed the selling and buying used games to corporations but people refused to listen to it. They simply said The store would be able to use the disk to disassociate the game with your GT and make it good for another install. There was never truly an issue there. As for selling games to non corporations and lending games just add a section to the dashboard and xbox.com where it shows a list of games that are connected to your GT and let you remove the license so the game is good again for another install. When you get your game back from your friend you just put the game back into the disk tray for a sec and hit install license.
And there you have it. All the problems with the old model gone while keeping all its new functionality. I really wish people would have just asked for this cause again there where a lot of great new features we were getting and I hope Microsoft realizes this.
This belongs in the “General Discussion” forum, but I personally never had a problem with any of the Xbox One’s DRM. It was just the way they presented the policies and lack of explanation that was the problem.
Basically, they didn’t explain it properly, so it looked and still looks like they tried to control our gaming, and the fact that it had to always be online and that a Microsoft executive said if you can’t then buy a 360 doesn’t help either. The pros would make it better for its price but since they took them away because we were not happy with the bad like their restrictments. I’ll still buy it when its cheaper, but in this case it was kinda more like something you’d find from two children, where its if I can’t have this then you can’t have it. In general all people saw in the Executives’ attitudes were arrogance that will cause a small downfall. This was just a big freak out on their part. But whatever they want goes…
> > what does this have to do with halo 5?
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> goobot posted in the wrong forum.
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> I’m assuming he just posted the thread here as this forum has “Xbox One” in its name.
Unless this has been changed recently im pretty sure mods said xbox one related things would be posted here as well.
1.) They didn’t have any DRM in place that would have allowed you to play offline with the disc.
One reason for this is that would give people essentially 2 copies of the game. The guy playing online without the disc, and the guy playing offline with it.
Companies have to be careful how they implement DRM so it isn’t abused.
2.) There would have been SOME trading in of games, but not all, and I highly doubt it would have even been a majority. Furthermore, there were additional restrictions, such as a game could only be given to a friend once, and only if he has been on your friends list for 30 days. Giving this amount of power to publishers is bad for the consumer no matter what way you spin it.
i think the original policy was overall a good thing, i think messaging and the whole ‘we have no more to discuss about this at this time, stay tuned’ type of messaging frustrating. It bred speculation and rumors, and ultimately generated false information that spread like a wild fire. its unfortunate.
The problem with the Xbox One’s policies were the way they presented them, and I really think the problem most people had with it was the always online DRM. Honestly, I think they should have gotten rid of used games in general, then they wouldn’t have to bother with the always online, and then it could have been a competitor to the Steam “giant”, since it has no real competition at the moment. Also the steambox is going to be released soon, and what its real competition, the PS3.5 and the Xbox 360.5
Also, getting rid of used games and going digital has many benefits, including cheaper priced games at retail, and crazy sales where you can get really god games for only a few dollars.
> The problem with the Xbox One’s policies were the way they presented them, and I really think the problem most people had with it was the always online DRM. Honestly, I think they should have gotten rid of used games in general, then they wouldn’t have to bother with the always online, and then it could have been a competitor to the Steam “giant”, since it has no real competition at the moment. Also the steambox is going to be released soon, and what its real competition, the PS3.5 and the Xbox 360.5
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> Also, getting rid of used games and going digital has many benefits, including cheaper priced games at retail, and crazy sales where you can get really god games for only a few dollars.
I agree.
I think with the overall presentation of the new policies could have been explained better so that they would be shown as more positive changes.
And digital is definitely the way to go. But I still enjoy the physical enjoyment of purchasing new games but you do have to change with the times.
Oh boy people, here comes a DRM thread, take your seats. What is it with some people wanting to be restricted? Some of us live in Antarctica and don’t have reliable access to the internet.
> Oh boy people, here comes a DRM thread, take your seats. What is it with some people wanting to be restricted? Some of us live in Antarctica and don’t have reliable access to the internet.
Did you take the minute to you know, actually read the thread? Cause it is obvious you didnt.
> They should have been fixed up. Lets be honest here. The original xbox one’s policy brought A LOT of new functions to the xbox. Things that would have made gaming so much better. The problem was that it had some issues that also meant we lost some functionality that we have grown accustomed to. Of coarse people rightfully complained but we shouldn’t have complained to remove everything completely but complained for the problems to just be fixed.
The “problem” in my eyes, is that the Xbox One was not so much a gaming console… Microsoft has become so caught up with the internet and movie watching and all that dumb, irrelevant crap. And by the way, they stated that the 360 had pushed it’s limits? What limits? The graphics?! Jesus, how good do the graphics have to be? I want to be able to tell it’s a game. I don’t want to feel like I’m watching a movie the whole entire time I’m playing a game.
Why would i rebuy all my games? They aren’t going to be on xbox one to rebuy… And its not like ps4 is backwards compatible either.
Also how is having a great gaming functionality AND other functions too a bad thing? You act like sony isn’t doing it too and like having a Netflix app somehow makes it a bad gaming console. That is not true.
> Why would i rebuy all my games? They aren’t going to be on xbox one to rebuy… And its not like ps4 is backwards compatible either.
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> Also how is having a great gaming functionality AND other functions too a bad thing? You act like sony isn’t doing it too and like having a Netflix app somehow makes it a bad gaming console. That is not true.
I never said Sony wasn’t doing it too. But I own an xbox so I don’t care. ← sounds meaner than I planned, but its true. Microsoft is digging a hole and soon they’re going to bury themselves. And about rebuying games, maybe I was misinformed but I heard they were remaking at least the xbox exclusive games for the xbox one. If not then thats even worse. Unless they keep the 360’s circulating for all the dedicated customers who now frown upon the xbox one, then they really are screwed. Microsoft is officially committing suicide. The xbox population is going to drop dramatically, just watch. As for PS4, don’t worry, I’m sure Sony will lose population too. And to your comment on Netflix, I misspoke, I meant they focused too much on connectivity, being able to do multiple things at once. Honestly, who watches movies AND plays games AND talks to people at the same time over the camera? They focused on things that are irrelevant to gamers… Most gamers, you know, the ones who buy the gaming console to game… But apparently thats too farfetched.