Xbox One X - "Next-Gen" Enough For Me?

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I didn’t like the service-based direction the video game industry went in the eighth console generation, and that’s something that’ll continue throughout the ninth generation and beyond. Deciding against buying the Xbox Series X, I’m awaiting reliable information regarding the PlayStation 5 to determine whether or not I’ll bother with this new generation. However, for the reason previously stated (among others), I may just buy an Xbox One X and be done with modern gaming once it stops being supported.

The obvious upgrade to 4K aside, just how much better is the Xbox One X over the other two Xbox One models? For example, I keep being told that it magically makes Halo: The Master Chief Collection work better than it does on my Xbox One S. For someone such as myself who hasn’t used one, would it be “next-gen” enough?

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The biggest differences you’re gonna find between xbox series and xb1 is frame rate and load times. Xb1x can output at 4k but most games run at 30fps or lower with ridiculously long load times. There is a handful of games that have performance modes that target up to 60fps but even then, most of the time you’re jumping around 40-50fps which in my opinion is more annoying than just having a locked 30. Besides performance, the xb1 gen will most likely lose third party support within a year and first party support within 2. During that time you’ll see less and less games come to the xb1 and then completely move to next gen.

Just curious on a few things if you don’t mind me asking. Why did you decide against getting an Xbox series but are okay with getting an xb1? And what info are you waiting on the ps5? Maybe I can help.

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> I didn’t like the service-based direction the video game industry went in the eighth console generation, and that’s something that’ll continue throughout the ninth generation and beyond. Deciding against buying the Xbox Series X, I’m awaiting reliable information regarding the PlayStation 5 to determine whether or not I’ll bother with this new generation. However, for the reason previously stated (among others), I may just buy an Xbox One X and be done with modern gaming once it stops being supported.
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> The obvious upgrade to 4K aside, just how much better is the Xbox One X over the other two Xbox One models? For example, I keep being told that it magically makes Halo: The Master Chief Collection work better than it does on my Xbox One S. For someone such as myself who hasn’t used one, would it be “next-gen” enough?

I don’t think it would be. It seems to me that you’ve kind of made up your mind as far as things go, which is fine - but I don’t think currently the XSX is going to be next-gen enough for you.

And typically, it never really is, at least right away. The games that come out at launch typically never can take full advantage of the system’s hardware, and a lot of people also lack the other necessities (4K tv’s with high refresh rate in this instance) needed that eventually come out (or become more affordable) 1-3 years within the lifespan of the console.

Just think back to Xbox 360 - a lot of people that gamed on OG Xbox’s had CRT type televisions. The best way to game on with a 360 was a widescreen LCD 720p TV, which people didn’t really start buying until later in the 2000s. Also, look at the launch titles - the best/most popular earliest title IMO was Gears 1, which wasn’t even released until the 360 had been out for a full year. Then compare the graphics of that Gears 1 to late-stage 360 games like Halo 4. MASSIVE difference.

Same can be said for XB1. People were switching or had made the switch from 720p LCD and plasma TV’s to 1080p+ LED TV’s. And again, the XB1 launched in 2013, but the best/most popular early title IMO (once again) came out nearly a year after the console did, with Minecraft’s XB1 edition.

Unless you have money to blow and really care about your game loading time and a boost in graphics, I’d say wait it out the typical year or two until everything is ready.

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> The biggest differences you’re gonna find between xbox series and xb1 is frame rate and load times. Xb1x can output at 4k but most games run at 30fps or lower with ridiculously long load times. There is a handful of games that have performance modes that target up to 60fps but even then, most of the time you’re jumping around 40-50fps which in my opinion is more annoying than just having a locked 30. Besides performance, the xb1 gen will most likely lose third party support within a year and first party support within 2. During that time you’ll see less and less games come to the xb1 and then completely move to next gen.
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> Just curious on a few things if you don’t mind me asking. Why did you decide against getting an Xbox series but are okay with getting an xb1? And what info are you waiting on the ps5? Maybe I can help.

YouTuber Adam Koralik released a review of the Xbox Series X where he discovered that the console somewhat makes use of always-online DRM. You need to install your games with an internet connection, and you can’t play them offline at all without going through a somewhat convoluted process to allow it (including, but not limited to, keeping your Xbox Series X set as your home Xbox). I care a lot about preservation, and I’m not okay with a console doing that as it’ll cause issues in a post-server-shutdown world (something that, to a lesser extent, is already an issue with the Xbox One). I’m waiting for Mr. Koralik’s review of the PlayStation 5 to see if it’s any different.

As for getting an Xbox One X, I have an Xbox One S and would like to have some improvements to my current library and other games from the eighth generation. If the ninth generation isn’t for me, the Xbox One X will be the last non-retro console I buy (though I would like to grab a Nintendo Switch in the future).

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> > I didn’t like the service-based direction the video game industry went in the eighth console generation, and that’s something that’ll continue throughout the ninth generation and beyond. Deciding against buying the Xbox Series X, I’m awaiting reliable information regarding the PlayStation 5 to determine whether or not I’ll bother with this new generation. However, for the reason previously stated (among others), I may just buy an Xbox One X and be done with modern gaming once it stops being supported.
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> > The obvious upgrade to 4K aside, just how much better is the Xbox One X over the other two Xbox One models? For example, I keep being told that it magically makes Halo: The Master Chief Collection work better than it does on my Xbox One S. For someone such as myself who hasn’t used one, would it be “next-gen” enough?
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> I don’t think it would be. It seems to me that you’ve kind of made up your mind as far as things go, which is fine - but I don’t think currently the XSX is going to be next-gen enough for you.
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> And typically, it never really is, at least right away. The games that come out at launch typically never can take full advantage of the system’s hardware, and a lot of people also lack the other necessities (4K tv’s with high refresh rate in this instance) needed that eventually come out (or become more affordable) 1-3 years within the lifespan of the console.
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> Just think back to Xbox 360 - a lot of people that gamed on OG Xbox’s had CRT type televisions. The best way to game on with a 360 was a widescreen LCD 720p TV, which people didn’t really start buying until later in the 2000s. Also, look at the launch titles - the best/most popular earliest title IMO was Gears 1, which wasn’t even released until the 360 had been out for a full year. Then compare the graphics of that Gears 1 to late-stage 360 games like Halo 4. MASSIVE difference.
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> Same can be said for XB1. People were switching or had made the switch from 720p LCD and plasma TV’s to 1080p+ LED TV’s. And again, the XB1 launched in 2013, but the best/most popular early title IMO (once again) came out nearly a year after the console did, with Minecraft’s XB1 edition.
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> Unless you have money to blow and really care about your game loading time and a boost in graphics, I’d say wait it out the typical year or two until everything is ready.

Fair enough, though that wasn’t my issue with the Xbox Series X. Please see my response to Fully Skully.

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> > The biggest differences you’re gonna find between xbox series and xb1 is frame rate and load times. Xb1x can output at 4k but most games run at 30fps or lower with ridiculously long load times. There is a handful of games that have performance modes that target up to 60fps but even then, most of the time you’re jumping around 40-50fps which in my opinion is more annoying than just having a locked 30. Besides performance, the xb1 gen will most likely lose third party support within a year and first party support within 2. During that time you’ll see less and less games come to the xb1 and then completely move to next gen.
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> > Just curious on a few things if you don’t mind me asking. Why did you decide against getting an Xbox series but are okay with getting an xb1? And what info are you waiting on the ps5? Maybe I can help.
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> YouTuber Adam Koralik released a review of the Xbox Series X where he discovered that the console somewhat makes use of always-online DRM. You need to install your games with an internet connection, and you can’t play them offline at all without going through a somewhat convoluted process to allow it (including, but not limited to, keeping your Xbox Series X set as your home Xbox). I care a lot about preservation, and I’m not okay with a console doing that as it’ll cause issues in a post-server-shutdown world (something that, to a lesser extent, is already an issue with the Xbox One). I’m waiting for Mr. Koralik’s review of the PlayStation 5 to see if it’s any different.
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> As for getting an Xbox One X, I have an Xbox One S and would like to have some improvements to my current library and other games from the eighth generation. If the ninth generation isn’t for me, the Xbox One X will be the last non-retro console I buy (though I would like to grab a Nintendo Switch in the future).
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> Fair enough, though that wasn’t my issue with the Xbox Series X. Please see my response to Fully Skully.

I don’t follow and can’t name any YouTubers, but a quick Google search leads to a bunch of different threads debunking that claim.

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> > > The biggest differences you’re gonna find between xbox series and xb1 is frame rate and load times. Xb1x can output at 4k but most games run at 30fps or lower with ridiculously long load times. There is a handful of games that have performance modes that target up to 60fps but even then, most of the time you’re jumping around 40-50fps which in my opinion is more annoying than just having a locked 30. Besides performance, the xb1 gen will most likely lose third party support within a year and first party support within 2. During that time you’ll see less and less games come to the xb1 and then completely move to next gen.
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> > > Just curious on a few things if you don’t mind me asking. Why did you decide against getting an Xbox series but are okay with getting an xb1? And what info are you waiting on the ps5? Maybe I can help.
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> > YouTuber Adam Koralik released a review of the Xbox Series X where he discovered that the console somewhat makes use of always-online DRM. You need to install your games with an internet connection, and you can’t play them offline at all without going through a somewhat convoluted process to allow it (including, but not limited to, keeping your Xbox Series X set as your home Xbox). I care a lot about preservation, and I’m not okay with a console doing that as it’ll cause issues in a post-server-shutdown world (something that, to a lesser extent, is already an issue with the Xbox One). I’m waiting for Mr. Koralik’s review of the PlayStation 5 to see if it’s any different.
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> > As for getting an Xbox One X, I have an Xbox One S and would like to have some improvements to my current library and other games from the eighth generation. If the ninth generation isn’t for me, the Xbox One X will be the last non-retro console I buy (though I would like to grab a Nintendo Switch in the future).
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> > Fair enough, though that wasn’t my issue with the Xbox Series X. Please see my response to Fully Skully.
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> I don’t follow and can’t name any YouTubers, but a quick Google search leads to a bunch of different threads debunking that claim.

I assure you that he’s a reliable source of information. When he got something wrong in his review, he released a video correcting it that very same day. That correction demonstrates, on video, that the Xbox Series X does do what he claims it does. I can link you to it if you’d like.

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> > > > The biggest differences you’re gonna find between xbox series and xb1 is frame rate and load times. Xb1x can output at 4k but most games run at 30fps or lower with ridiculously long load times. There is a handful of games that have performance modes that target up to 60fps but even then, most of the time you’re jumping around 40-50fps which in my opinion is more annoying than just having a locked 30. Besides performance, the xb1 gen will most likely lose third party support within a year and first party support within 2. During that time you’ll see less and less games come to the xb1 and then completely move to next gen.
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> > > > Just curious on a few things if you don’t mind me asking. Why did you decide against getting an Xbox series but are okay with getting an xb1? And what info are you waiting on the ps5? Maybe I can help.
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> > > YouTuber Adam Koralik released a review of the Xbox Series X where he discovered that the console somewhat makes use of always-online DRM. You need to install your games with an internet connection, and you can’t play them offline at all without going through a somewhat convoluted process to allow it (including, but not limited to, keeping your Xbox Series X set as your home Xbox). I care a lot about preservation, and I’m not okay with a console doing that as it’ll cause issues in a post-server-shutdown world (something that, to a lesser extent, is already an issue with the Xbox One). I’m waiting for Mr. Koralik’s review of the PlayStation 5 to see if it’s any different.
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> > > As for getting an Xbox One X, I have an Xbox One S and would like to have some improvements to my current library and other games from the eighth generation. If the ninth generation isn’t for me, the Xbox One X will be the last non-retro console I buy (though I would like to grab a Nintendo Switch in the future).
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> > > Fair enough, though that wasn’t my issue with the Xbox Series X. Please see my response to Fully Skully.
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> > I don’t follow and can’t name any YouTubers, but a quick Google search leads to a bunch of different threads debunking that claim.
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> I assure you that he’s a reliable source of information. When he got something wrong in his review, he released a video correcting it that very same day. That correction demonstrates, on video, that the Xbox Series X does do what he claims it does. I can link you to it if you’d like.

I don’t have a dog in this race, but here is the top thread from Google that I was referencing.

Like I said previously, it seems like you have your mind made up in what you want, so I encourage you to find the gaming console that suits you best.

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The xbox one (and ps4) are still fine. I see no reason to upgrade right now so I won’t be anytime soon.

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To be honest, I don’t see any reason to move up unless you’re one of them people that’ll pay full price for slight upgrades (and that’s all the next gen consoles are, slight upgrades) or if you’re so devoted to microsoft or sony that you’ll buy their consoles to support them as a fan.

Another poster actually put it out quite well to be honest. While sure the last generation will be slightly weaker, games will still be made for them for the next few years, and games today are being made to work for both generations, so they won’t be taking full advantage of next gen anyway 🤷 I mean Cyberpunk 2077 is probably the most anticipated game for the last 5 years, but I believe some will be disappointed knowing it has to compromise next gen capabilities just to make sure last generation is also involved. Like truly, next gen consoles won’t be hitting their real potential until a few years pass by once more people upgrade to it, and developers are more Keen to dropping last generation support for new generation. By then it’ll be cheaper :+1:

I’ll be enjoying my XBX for at least another year, possibly two and I got assassin’s creed Valhalla. It still looks absolutely gorgeous and plays great even if it’s not next gen, I think people just need to not be so spoiled thinking they have to get next gen when patience will actually benefit them in the long run. It’ll be cheaper, the new xbox and ps will also hsvh a larger game library, new games will actually be built using the consoles true potential, etc etc. Like right now I see no reason to get an XBSX or ps5 unless you like Shelling out money.

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I’ll stick to my PC.