What I don’t understand is why 343 took out Limited, the only game mode in Firefight that took a modicum of skill, while leaving in the game mode that is a booster’s best friend. Frankly, I despise X2 Score Attack since it’s mindless AR spam. Are 343 trying to remove all semblance of skill in favor of a spray and pray game?
Obviously. I mean, why else would the only 4 player playlist be a mindless spamfest of FRGs and Rocket Launchers?
Two things:
- Firefight Limited technically still exists in the Doubles playmode. I’ve seen it twice in the voting portion after 343 supposedly removed FFL. Buddy up and go get some.
Also: isn’t regular Score Attack basically short Limited?
- 2X Score Attack is fun for me and many others, as well as a good place to complete the daily challenges. I thought that was the point- you know, having fun?
It’s a shame that FFL was removed, it really is; but it had an incredibly small population, and that not even relative to the whole. I’ve already suggested a feasible (though inconvenient) solution:
The FFL enthusiasts should band together in the “Recruiting” thread and play Firefight outside of matchmaking. Because frankly, that all you’re going to get for the foreseeable future.
After all, it’s about the game and not the stats or cR, right? Don’t take your frustration out on others; instead, channel your energy to improve your situation.
I prefer X2 Score Attack to almost every other FireFight Mode. I use it to try out other weapons, DMR, Shottie, Sniper, Grenade launcher and I certainly don’t spam AR’s around.
Also FF Limited has not been removed, even though they said they would, I’ve seen it several times over the past week in Doubles Mode as the previous poster said.
PS for the record I couldn’t care less about cR’s its a poor ranking system imo, I play it for the daily challenges only.
> What I don’t understand is why 343 took out Limited, the only game mode in Firefight that took a modicum of skill, while leaving in the game mode that is a booster’s best friend. Frankly, I despise X2 Score Attack since it’s mindless AR spam. Are 343 trying to remove all semblance of skill in favor of a spray and pray game?
Limited suffered from AFKers and idiots who repeatedly threw themselves at the enemy, wasting lives in the process, for a quick Cr payout. There were also the occasional scrubs who picked jetpack and/or hid in unintended locations to make the game drag on. Combine those with a dwindling population who complained and you have your answer. That aside, Limited still exists in the Doubles playlist so FF vets can still have a challenge.
> Frankly, I despise X2 Score Attack since it’s mindless AR spam. Are 343 trying to remove all semblance of skill in favor of a spray and pray game?
Fun fact, that mindless AR spam actually has a point. [see: Riflin’ Through].
2X Score Attack is the BLAM!!
You don’t know your -Yoink- from a hole the ground. Quit whinning and play the damn game!!!
The easist way for you to not play 2xSA is not choose it. It mainly shows up in Single Player SA anyway.
FFL was great, but you could never find players at the end of it. Low populations = no playlist. It’s been done before!
I like 2x SA because it makes non-HS weapons relevant.
Although I greatly prefer the DMR/noob combo to anything else, it’s fun to mix it up every once in a while. In default settings, automatic weapons are like throwing stones at your enemies.
> 2X Score Attack is the BLAM!!
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> You don’t know your -Yoink!- from a hole the ground. Quit whinning and play the damn game!!!
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> The easist way for you to not play 2xSA is not choose it. It mainly shows up in Single Player SA anyway.
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> FFL was great, but you could never find players at the end of it. Low populations = no playlist. It’s been done before!
Dude, chill. He’s just frustrated at what he sees as an injustice, and he may be right. 2XSA is fun, but it’s nowhere near the challenge or FFL, which (even though I personally don’t like it) should be reinstated at some point, low population or not.
Nah. 2XSA is amazingly fun, and easily my favorite Firefight gametype.
All FF gametypes need to go same thing for stupid Campaign playlist.
> All FF gametypes need to go same thing for stupid Campaign playlist.
You are clearly a person of great intelligence and reasonable opinions.
> > All FF gametypes need to go same thing for stupid Campaign playlist.
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> You are clearly a person of great intelligence and reasonable opinions.
Yeah becaus if you dont have buddys to play privat FF or Private Campaign with then why are you even a Live Subscriber?
Stop catering to the casuals that dont have this type of stuff in 2011 and have playlists for more importen stuff sutch as the Regular MP and not that FF or Campaign BS.
> > > All FF gametypes need to go same thing for stupid Campaign playlist.
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> > You are clearly a person of great intelligence and reasonable opinions.
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> Yeah becaus if you dont have buddys to play privat FF or Private Campaign with then why are you even a Live Subscriber?
> Stop catering to the casuals that dont have this type of stuff in 2011 and have playlists for more importen stuff sutch as the Regular MP and not that FF or Campaign BS.
You do realize that this exact same argument can be used against multiplayer, right? The point is to bring players together, even thought they might not know each other. This applies to all facets of multiplayer. Not everyone can LAN up or wants to play split screen.
Besides, MM has the most gametypes by far. I really don’t think the FF-ers and Campaigners are bothering anyone, least of all you.
Also: do you know what would happen if 343 made decisions to specifically exclude “casuals”? The franchise would die. You and others should probably stop demanding 343 to make decisions that would severely hurt their bottom line.
Again, you are clearly a person of great intellect and reasonable opinions.
I Agree with your first point, I loved me some limited. But, I disagree with the 2X Score attack. That game type is my best friend when I want to get one more game in before bed.
> > > > All FF gametypes need to go same thing for stupid Campaign playlist.
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> > > You are clearly a person of great intelligence and reasonable opinions.
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> > Yeah becaus if you dont have buddys to play privat FF or Private Campaign with then why are you even a Live Subscriber?
> > Stop catering to the casuals that dont have this type of stuff in 2011 and have playlists for more importen stuff sutch as the Regular MP and not that FF or Campaign BS.
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> You do realize that this exact same argument can be used against multiplayer, right? The point is to bring players together, even thought they might not know each other. This applies to all facets of multiplayer. Not everyone can LAN up or wants to play split screen.
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> Besides, MM has the most gametypes by far. I really don’t think the FF-ers and Campaigners are bothering anyone, least of all you.
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> Also: do you know what would happen if 343 made decisions to specifically exclude “casuals”? The franchise would die. You and others should probably stop demanding 343 to make decisions that would severely hurt their bottom line.
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> Again, you are clearly a person of great intellect and reasonable opinions.
But to start with Matchmaking Campaign wasent even there to start with neither was most of the pointless FF gametyps. They all got added when the population was realy high. Compare the online population from day 1 to the day it is now and we will all see the low number, yet we still have to many pointless playlist’s.
> But to start with Matchmaking Campaign wasent even there to start with neither was most of the pointless FF gametyps. They all got added when the population was realy high. Compare the online population from day 1 to the day it is now and we will all see the low number, yet we still have to many pointless playlist’s.
HCE for Xbox didn’t have XBL multiplayer, either. What’s your point? Should Bungie never have added anything to begin with? If they’re “worthless” now, they were “worthless” to begin with, regardless of the size of the population at the time of implementation. There’s no logical reason 343 would ever remove them, no matter how strongly you or any number of like-minded people object. Why? Because that would alienate not only the “casuals”, but also the dedicated players who have come to enjoy Firefight and matchmaking campaign. Not all “hardcores” play the multi exclusively.
But now I’m putting the onus on you: if 343 were to completely remove matchmaking FF and campaign, what other playlists could they then implement that you feel are glaringly absent? Any answer that involves “fixing” already existing playlists is invalid.
You really, really need to think through your arguments, and consider more than your own personal preferences. You are only one among hundreds of thousands of Halo fans.
What about those of us that find 2x Score Attack fun? I still want to be able to play that gametype in Matchmaking.
cR boosting really isn’t a problem, since cR are only used to buy armor and show how much you’ve played the game.
X2 Score Attack is in Score Attack playlist. Play it there so people who want to play Arcadefight (which isn’t much of a challenge but is more so than X2) or Limited. The fact that X2 Score Attack is first means that all boosters and AFKers have to do is pick it and you (the guy who actually plays the game) can’t do anything about it. For this reason I have to (though I’d rather not) avoid these people so I don’t constantly play 3 min games of COD… I mean X2 Score Attack.
I dont know i mean its not like getting crazy action with FRGs and blowing the hell out of anythign that moves while getting killtaculars is fun