A whole new age to camping
You know, I never once said when playing any Halo game, that I want to be superman. That I want to be able to look through walls. I really see what 343i is trying to do, trying to put a stop to camping but Im a afraid that It will backfire. The reality is that X-ray vision is likey to help out campers even more. The one advantage that we have over campers it the element of suprise. The fact that we have can catch campers of guard. Now that is gone, since campers will know when excatly were entering the camping spot. Thanks to 343i a whole NEW age of camping will be upon us.
Forunner vision will end up in two ways:
Overpowered, Help out the campers more than it stops them. The new armor lock.
Useless, be a complete waste of disk space.
Forunner vision = Free wallhack.
Rather that being a tool to use to stop camping. its going to be used to camp in the first place and make even more appealing and even more easier. I have no problem with forunner vison. It’s that fact that you can spawn with a gamechanging tool in you pocket. And who knows what rank you have to be to unlock it.
Constuctive Critism.
I know that it’s pretty much set in stone buy anyway. Instead of have x-ray vision on start why not have a x-ray type weapon. This forunner power weapon will have the vision when you scope in. And will have to be earned via map control and skill. Rather you have such a (poteinally) powerfull tool on start.
Frankie, Did NOT confirm that you can’t see players at ALL. He only confirmed that Forerunner vision can’t be used to see players completely across a whole map. You can still see players at close range: This is where the problem is
> A whole new age to camping
> You know, I never once said when playing any Halo game, that I want to be superman. That I want to be able to look through walls. I really see what 343i is trying to do, trying to put a stop to camping but Im a afraid that It will backfire. The reality is that X-ray vision is likey to help out campers even more. The one advantage that we have over campers it the element of suprise. The fact that we have can catch campers of guard. Now that is gone, since campers will know when excatly were entering the camping spot. Thanks to 343i a whole NEW age of camping will be upon us.
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> Forunner vision will end up in two ways:
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> 1) Overpowered, Help out the campers more that it stops them. The new armor lock.
> 2) Useless, be a complete waste of disk space.
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> Constuctive Critism.
> I know that it’s pretty much set in stone buy anyway. Instead of have x-ray vision on start why not have a x-ray type weapon. This forunner power weapon will have the vision when you scope in. And will have to be earned via map control and skill. Rather you have such a (poteinally) powerfull tool on start.
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> Discuss.
You can not see other players whilst using Forerunner vision.
I bet some people will think it’s “anti camp” because you can see people crouching behind walls but all it really does is make it so much easier to camp in the first place.
> A whole new age to camping
> You know, I never once said when playing any Halo game, that I want to be superman. That I want to be able to look through walls. I really see what 343i is trying to do, trying to put a stop to camping but Im a afraid that It will backfire. The reality is that X-ray vision is likey to help out campers even more. The one advantage that we have over campers it the element of suprise. The fact that we have can catch campers of guard. Now that is gone, since campers will know when excatly were entering the camping spot. Thanks to 343i a whole NEW age of camping will be upon us.
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> Forunner vision will end up in two ways:
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> 1) Overpowered, Help out the campers more that it stops them. The new armor lock.
> 2) Useless, be a complete waste of disk space.
>
> Constuctive Critism.
> I know that it’s pretty much set in stone buy anyway. Instead of have x-ray vision on start why not have a x-ray type weapon. This forunner power weapon will have the vision when you scope in. And will have to be earned via map control and skill. Rather you have such a (poteinally) powerfull tool on start.
>
> Discuss.
> A whole new age to camping
> You know, I never once said when playing any Halo game, that I want to be superman. That I want to be able to look through walls. I really see what 343i is trying to do, trying to put a stop to camping but Im a afraid that It will backfire. The reality is that X-ray vision is likey to help out campers even more. The one advantage that we have over campers it the element of suprise. The fact that we have can catch campers of guard. Now that is gone, since campers will know when excatly were entering the camping spot. Thanks to 343i a whole NEW age of camping will be upon us.
>
> Forunner vision will end up in two ways:
>
> 1) Overpowered, Help out the campers more that it stops them. The new armor lock.
> 2) Useless, be a complete waste of disk space.
>
> Constuctive Critism.
> I know that it’s pretty much set in stone buy anyway. Instead of have x-ray vision on start why not have a x-ray type weapon. This forunner power weapon will have the vision when you scope in. And will have to be earned via map control and skill. Rather you have such a (poteinally) powerfull tool on start.
>
> Discuss.
> > A whole new age to camping
> > You know, I never once said when playing any Halo game, that I want to be superman. That I want to be able to look through walls. I really see what 343i is trying to do, trying to put a stop to camping but Im a afraid that It will backfire. The reality is that X-ray vision is likey to help out campers even more. The one advantage that we have over campers it the element of suprise. The fact that we have can catch campers of guard. Now that is gone, since campers will know when excatly were entering the camping spot. Thanks to 343i a whole NEW age of camping will be upon us.
> >
> > Forunner vision will end up in two ways:
> >
> > 1) Overpowered, Help out the campers more that it stops them. The new armor lock.
> > 2) Useless, be a complete waste of disk space.
> >
> > Constuctive Critism.
> > I know that it’s pretty much set in stone buy anyway. Instead of have x-ray vision on start why not have a x-ray type weapon. This forunner power weapon will have the vision when you scope in. And will have to be earned via map control and skill. Rather you have such a (poteinally) powerfull tool on start.
> >
> > Discuss.
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> You can not see other players whilst using Forerunner vision.
> I bet some people will think it’s “anti camp” because you can see people crouching behind walls but all it really does is make it so much easier to camp in the first place.
I cannot link you to proof, but 343 said you will not be able to see players through walls. I think this will only come in handy when you don’t know the maps very well or to see if weapons have already spawned.
> > > A whole new age to camping
> > > You know, I never once said when playing any Halo game, that I want to be superman. That I want to be able to look through walls. I really see what 343i is trying to do, trying to put a stop to camping but Im a afraid that It will backfire. The reality is that X-ray vision is likey to help out campers even more. The one advantage that we have over campers it the element of suprise. The fact that we have can catch campers of guard. Now that is gone, since campers will know when excatly were entering the camping spot. Thanks to 343i a whole NEW age of camping will be upon us.
> > >
> > > Forunner vision will end up in two ways:
> > >
> > > 1) Overpowered, Help out the campers more that it stops them. The new armor lock.
> > > 2) Useless, be a complete waste of disk space.
> > >
> > > Constuctive Critism.
> > > I know that it’s pretty much set in stone buy anyway. Instead of have x-ray vision on start why not have a x-ray type weapon. This forunner power weapon will have the vision when you scope in. And will have to be earned via map control and skill. Rather you have such a (poteinally) powerfull tool on start.
> > >
> > > Discuss.
> >
> > You can not see other players whilst using Forerunner vision.
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> So what purpose does it serve?
My Theory is that Forerunner vision will be used to locate the random weapon spawns/drops.
> > … Frankie has said that you can not see players with it, just the map.
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> So it looks like it going to be a waste of space.
Again with how weapons will have more then one respawn location it will probably play the part in helping those players who don’t know the set spawns for the weapon’s find them.
Go play the game Shadowrun. Or better yet, just go download the demo online that people still play. Then get the Enhanced Vision tech which lets you see through walls. In fact, there’s pretty much any piece of tech in that game that will possibly be in Halo 4.
> Go play the game Shadowrun. Or better yet, just go download the demo online that people still play. Then get the Enhanced Vision tech which lets you see through walls. In fact, there’s pretty much any piece of tech in that game that will possibly be in Halo 4.
Funny enough, I played shadow run. One of the first xbox live games I played. And I hated it, took it straight back. Then got Halo. Little did I know that I would get a sequal in the form of Reach.
I believe we’ve had a free wallhack quite some time actually. It’s a tool you always spawn with, no matter what. It shows every moving enemy up to twenty meters around you, the direction of their movement and sometimes even their elevation. You can use it forever and its usage sacrifices none of your abilities. Sounds overpowered, doesn’t it?
People who have multiple times taken a glance at the bottom left corner of the screen most likely understood what I am talking about. It’s our radar of course. And considering the information we have on Forerunner vision, it seems to not have other advantages over our regular radar aside from seeing unmoving opponents and a three dimensional picture of them. It most certainly isn’t the omnipotent tool of a camper.
In fact, considering Frankie’s quotes that were along the lines of “competitive player picking it and not using it since” makes me believe it will in fact be a rather useless addition to the sandbox. It might very well be the new Hologram: an ability that serves less practical purpose than other abilities and therefore forgotten. In all honesty, we have much bigger concerns than the Forerunner vision, I can assure that. So let’s focus on them instead.