WZ/WZA = Warzone Fiesta

WZ and WZA are all about reqs and who’s got the most/best reqs. It’s not as fun as it used to be. Theres no longer a need for standard/loadout weapons honestly. There needs to be a limit on reqs to balance out gameplay or it might as well be called Warzone Fiesta.

Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.

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> Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.

It is and I definitely understand that, I’m just pointing out the game play. I just think it’d gotten to a point where the playlist is way overloaded with reqs.

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> Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.

Hahaha exactly right… the point of warzone is knowing what req to use depending on how the game us going. It’s kinda funny to see some complain about the purpose of a playlist. Also a reqless warzone is essentially BTB.

warzone turbo was the closest thing i think you will get

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> > Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.
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> Hahaha exactly right… the point of warzone is knowing what req to use depending on how the game us going. It’s kinda funny to see some complain about the purpose of a playlist. Also a reqless warzone is essentially BTB.

It is and I definitely understand that, I’m just pointing out the game play. I just think it’d gotten to a point where the playlist is way overloaded with reqs.

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> > Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.
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> It is and I definitely understand that, I’m just pointing out the game play. I just think it’d gotten to a point where the playlist is way overloaded with reqs.

It does seem pretty overloaded, and I wonder about the new kids who have no clue and very little REQ’s. I really think part of the matchmaking should take available REQ’s into consideration.

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> > > Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.
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> > Hahaha exactly right… the point of warzone is knowing what req to use depending on how the game us going. It’s kinda funny to see some complain about the purpose of a playlist. Also a reqless warzone is essentially BTB.
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> It is and I definitely understand that, I’m just pointing out the game play. I just think it’d gotten to a point where the playlist is way overloaded with reqs.

Well it’s a playlist based on reqs so yeah players are going to use them.

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> > > Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.
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> > It is and I definitely understand that, I’m just pointing out the game play. I just think it’d gotten to a point where the playlist is way overloaded with reqs.
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> It does seem pretty overloaded, and I wonder about the new kids who have no clue and very little REQ’s. I really think part of the matchmaking should take available REQ’s into consideration.

I have no issues with reqs, I love the idea. But it just feels super overwhelming at this point with the amount of reqs in play at one time. Especially late in a game. Spawn outside a base and get lit up by a sniper, rail gun, answer, ultra banshee, phaeton, Hannibal mantis, wasp…ect.

If any of you know what that feels like lol

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> > > > Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.
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> > > Hahaha exactly right… the point of warzone is knowing what req to use depending on how the game us going. It’s kinda funny to see some complain about the purpose of a playlist. Also a reqless warzone is essentially BTB.
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> > It is and I definitely understand that, I’m just pointing out the game play. I just think it’d gotten to a point where the playlist is way overloaded with reqs.
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> Well it’s a playlist based on reqs so yeah players are going to use them.

This is what I’m trying to say lol.

I have no issues with reqs, I love the idea. But it just feels super overwhelming at this point with the amount of reqs in play at one time. Especially late in a game. Spawn outside a base and get lit up by a sniper, rail gun, answer, ultra banshee, phaeton, Hannibal mantis, wasp…ect.If any of you know what that feels like lol

WZ was always about the REQs. That was the point; they were meant to go hand in hand. WZ and WZA were always all about who had the better REQs. It’s supposed to be filled with REQs; if it weren’t it would just be BTB.
WZ Fiesta would actually be an interesting idea, in that players could get to use a REQ in Warzone they may not have the card for. But 343i would never implement such a game mode, because it would make it less likely that people would buy REQ packs for use in Warzone.

Unrelated, why do you keep posting the same copy/pasted response to different people?

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> WZ was always about the REQs. That was the point; they were meant to go hand in hand. WZ and WZA were always all about who had the better REQs. It’s supposed to be filled with REQs; if it weren’t it would just be BTB.
> WZ Fiesta would actually be an interesting idea, in that players could get to use a REQ in Warzone they may not have the card for. But 343i would never implement such a game mode, because it would make it less likely that people would buy REQ packs for use in Warzone.
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> Unrelated, why do you keep posting the same copy/pasted response to different people?

So they read what I say incase they didn’t see it before lol. Just like what I’m about to do for you to see my perspective.

I know wz is all about reqs…we all know that lol. I’m saying it feels too overloaded with reqs…yes that can happen.

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> > WZ was always about the REQs. That was the point; they were meant to go hand in hand. WZ and WZA were always all about who had the better REQs. It’s supposed to be filled with REQs; if it weren’t it would just be BTB.
> > WZ Fiesta would actually be an interesting idea, in that players could get to use a REQ in Warzone they may not have the card for. But 343i would never implement such a game mode, because it would make it less likely that people would buy REQ packs for use in Warzone.
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> > Unrelated, why do you keep posting the same copy/pasted response to different people?
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> So they read what I say incase they didn’t see it before lol. Just like what I’m about to do for you to see my perspective.
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> I know wz is all about reqs…we all know that lol. I’m saying it feels too overloaded with reqs…yes that can happen.

And I guess where I and others disagree with you is that WZ can’t be overloaded with REQs, beyond the games capacity to handle them (like how there is a maximum vehicle spawn limit). REQ usage is what WZ was designed for, so the more REQs on the field, the more WZ’s original intent is being met.
Also don’t just repeat the same thing over and over in your responses. That is just spamming.

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> > > WZ was always about the REQs. That was the point; they were meant to go hand in hand. WZ and WZA were always all about who had the better REQs. It’s supposed to be filled with REQs; if it weren’t it would just be BTB.
> > > WZ Fiesta would actually be an interesting idea, in that players could get to use a REQ in Warzone they may not have the card for. But 343i would never implement such a game mode, because it would make it less likely that people would buy REQ packs for use in Warzone.
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> > > Unrelated, why do you keep posting the same copy/pasted response to different people?
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> > So they read what I say incase they didn’t see it before lol. Just like what I’m about to do for you to see my perspective.
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> > I know wz is all about reqs…we all know that lol. I’m saying it feels too overloaded with reqs…yes that can happen.
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> And I guess where I and others disagree with you is that WZ can’t be overloaded with REQs, beyond the games capacity to handle them (like how there is a maximum vehicle spawn limit). REQ usage is what WZ was designed for, so the more REQs on the field, the more WZ’s original intent is being met.
> Also don’t just repeat the same thing over and over in your responses. That is just spamming.

Your lack of attention to detail is causing me to have to repeat myself lol.

It’s like u have to repeat everything I say because you don’t understand what I’m trying to say. I’ll do as I please fella, calm down.

Listen. Read again. Think it through as to what I’ve been saying lol.

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> > > WZ was always about the REQs. That was the point; they were meant to go hand in hand. WZ and WZA were always all about who had the better REQs. It’s supposed to be filled with REQs; if it weren’t it would just be BTB.
> > > WZ Fiesta would actually be an interesting idea, in that players could get to use a REQ in Warzone they may not have the card for. But 343i would never implement such a game mode, because it would make it less likely that people would buy REQ packs for use in Warzone.
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> > > Unrelated, why do you keep posting the same copy/pasted response to different people?
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> > So they read what I say incase they didn’t see it before lol. Just like what I’m about to do for you to see my perspective.
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> > I know wz is all about reqs…we all know that lol. I’m saying it feels too overloaded with reqs…yes that can happen.
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> And I guess where I and others disagree with you is that WZ can’t be overloaded with REQs, beyond the games capacity to handle them (like how there is a maximum vehicle spawn limit). REQ usage is what WZ was designed for, so the more REQs on the field, the more WZ’s original intent is being met.
> Also don’t just repeat the same thing over and over in your responses. That is just spamming.

Let me know how you feel next time you can’t get out of a base or core bc the other team has every req imaginable picking you off every time you spawn. Maybe then you’ll finally understand what I’m trying to point out instead of tossing your opinion around with viewing my perspective.

I see your perspective clearly and am not disagreeing with you…before you go off and post another worthless reply lol

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> Isn’t that the point of WZ bringing out the big REQ’s? I have always thought that a REQ free WZ would be nice, but I think that will never happen.

I’ve actually had a handful of rounds where neither team could access the req stations (spinning wheel) so it was all pistols and anything you could pick up off of AI for an entire game. Those games were some of the most fun and most well balanced games of Warzone I have ever played. One in particular on ARC didn’t have the garage capped by either team until around the 10 minute mark because it was a constant pistol fight back and forth the entire time. So much fun. Didn’t have to deal with 4 banshees being out the whole time. Didn’t have to worry about your armory being capped by one dude that has either a blaze of glory with active camo or two dudes with rocket launchers that you can’t even get near.

It was a blast. I really with we could have a req free variant of Warzone, maybe just with loadouts. The nothing but pistols thing made some of the bosses extremely difficult to kill, but it was fun never the less. I know this will never happen because they need people using reqs, but it really is a blast.

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> > > > WZ was always about the REQs. That was the point; they were meant to go hand in hand. WZ and WZA were always all about who had the better REQs. It’s supposed to be filled with REQs; if it weren’t it would just be BTB.
> > > > WZ Fiesta would actually be an interesting idea, in that players could get to use a REQ in Warzone they may not have the card for. But 343i would never implement such a game mode, because it would make it less likely that people would buy REQ packs for use in Warzone.
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> > > > Unrelated, why do you keep posting the same copy/pasted response to different people?
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> > > So they read what I say incase they didn’t see it before lol. Just like what I’m about to do for you to see my perspective.
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> > > I know wz is all about reqs…we all know that lol. I’m saying it feels too overloaded with reqs…yes that can happen.
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> > And I guess where I and others disagree with you is that WZ can’t be overloaded with REQs, beyond the games capacity to handle them (like how there is a maximum vehicle spawn limit). REQ usage is what WZ was designed for, so the more REQs on the field, the more WZ’s original intent is being met.
> > Also don’t just repeat the same thing over and over in your responses. That is just spamming.
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> Your lack of attention to detail is causing me to have to repeat myself lol.
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> It’s like u have to repeat everything I say because you don’t understand what I’m trying to say. I’ll do as I please fella, calm down.
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> Listen. Read again. Think it through as to what I’ve been saying lol.

If I don’t see the detail in your argument, it’s because your argument has no detail. I’ve read over your posts, and all you say is that WZ is overloaded with REQs, especially late game. And that you want there to be a limit on REQ usage in WZ.
You later cite an example of being spawn-locked in home base by heavy enemy REQ usage, but this is more indicative of farming and not the REQ system as a whole, and doesn’t happen all that often across the entire player base (even less so ever since they started testing 6-man limits on WZ fireteams).
So I’m not seeing the basis of your argument. You say there is too much focus on REQs in the game mode designed for REQs, especially late game when everyone has access to the best/most REQs they would be able to use in the game. So what is it that you want from WZ? What kind of limits would you impose on REQ usage? How would you change the focus of WZ so that it is less REQ heavy, and what justification would you provide for such a change beyond its because you want that? I mean, if normal WZ followed WZ Turbo rules, I would see where you’re coming from. But that’s not the case.