I am seeing this message far too much in these forums. Yes, Halo 4 wasn’t perfect at launch, no game is. But worst game ever? Pfft. cough Sonic '06 cough
Go back to the forums of Reach, right to the back. Even though the amazing Bungie made this game it still has people claiming it to be another Call of Duty and the worst game ever.
Hmm, history seems to be repeating itself. Some people claim to HATE this game and how it’s CoD or whatever, and how 343i ruined it (they didn’t by the way, lots of fun with all game modes, especially campaign) but they even said the same with Reach and even on the 3 forums you see people asking for it to be updated immediately.
Please, PLEASE stop complaining and whining like children. Enjoy the game for what it is, I know I am, I’m sure 343i will fix as much stuff as they can with the game to make it as fun as we remember all the other games being.
In all good honesty. There’re far to many threads like this as well. I’m not attacking you. I’m just sayin’.
The thing is, these people provide page upon page of evidence for why the game is nothing like it’s predecessors and that why certain changes to it would make it a more enjoyable experience overall. Even if you may be satisfied with how the franchise has changed, many people (including myself) are not. If you compare Halo 4 to Halo 3, they are two completely different beasts. You would not be able to tell they were from the same game series. The people here want to change that, so we can get back to the Halo gameplay we know and love.
By all means though do make constructive criticism though.
If a weapon is in your mind OP then say why and give evidence. Then state how it could be fixed if you can.
E.g. DMR needs bloom or slower firing rate.
Boltshot needs less range on it’s 1sk feature.
I know you and I are having fun playing the game, but understand, a significant amount of people are unsatisfied with the game.
It does get a bit boring seeing the same regurgitated threads over and over though.
The fact people make threads and don’t have any valid reasoning only makes it worse.
We just need patience fellow Spartans and hope for the best. Complaining like children isn’t really going to help, although you are free to do it.
I understand that people aren’t enjoying it, which is a shame. But they act like 343i and Halo 4 are the WORST things ever, which I can’t understand.
Everyone makes mistakes, 343i will/should fix these problems.
Remember Duke Nukem Forever Blurg* Who made that Gearbox, the very same that made the wonderful Borderlands 1 and 2. One mistake won’t ruin everything forever.
> I am seeing this message far too much in these forums. Yes, Halo 4 wasn’t perfect at launch, no game is. But worst game ever? Pfft. cough Sonic '06 cough
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> Go back to the forums of Reach, right to the back. Even though the amazing Bungie made this game it still has people claiming it to be another Call of Duty and the worst game ever.
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> Hmm, history seems to be repeating itself. Some people claim to HATE this game and how it’s CoD or whatever, and how 343i ruined it (they didn’t by the way, lots of fun with all game modes, especially campaign) but they even said the same with Reach and even on the 3 forums you see people asking for it to be updated immediately.
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> Please, PLEASE stop complaining and whining like children. Enjoy the game for what it is, I know I am, I’m sure 343i will fix as much stuff as they can with the game to make it as fun as we remember all the other games being.
I couldn’t agree more with you, I dont mind a proper constructive criticism thread but i’m also tired of people constantly bashing on this game for the same things(boltshot, custom games,DMR, it sucking overall, the list goes on). Overall this is an amazing game which has received very strong reviews and also many awards. Also don’t forget this is 343i’s first game and most people did not expect them to do as well as they did, i’m sure that the things that need to be fixed/added will be in time and that they next Halos will be even better.
Awards and ratings from gaming journalists do not assure a title’s quality.
If people have criticisms towards Halo 4, they’re going to post them. While admittedly there are some that are just irrational nonsense, most are valid points (ex. overpowered Boltshot, instant respawn, Join in Progress, etc).
It is quite annoying seeing the same topics over and over, but simply saying, “stop it,” isn’t going to change anything; you aren’t making a difference.
Halo 4 had at least 3 years of development time, and 4 games (5 if you count ODST) to use as examples. The devs also had Halo’s immense fanbase at its disposal for feedback. We expected much, much more from the game. Instead of making a worthy successor to Halo 3, 343i took ideas from contemporary games like Call of Duty (don’t act like they didn’t).
No game is perfect on launch, but then again no game has changed so much for the sake of appealing to a broader, more casual audience. The issues plaguing Halo 4 aren’t things that can be fixed with a few patches (which “imperfect on launch” implies), they stem from the core gameplay.
343i wanted to turn Halo into something it isn’t, and they alienated a huge portion of the fanbase as a result. If they wanted to return the series to its former glory, they’d have to completely overhaul the game.
> The thing is, these people provide page upon page of evidence for why the game is nothing like it’s predecessors and that why certain changes to it would make it a more enjoyable experience overall. Even if you may be satisfied with how the franchise has changed, many people (including myself) are not. If you compare Halo 4 to Halo 3, they are two completely different beasts. You would not be able to tell they were from the same game series. The people here want to change that, so we can get back to the Halo gameplay we know and love.
As someone who has played since CE it still feels like Halo to me, however there are things such as the class system in particular that do seem a bit out of touch for a halo game, I also dont think though that it’s feel like a whole new game. Remember that it was bungie that paved the way for the class system, 343i developed it into what it is now. The major aspects of what makes a Halo game such as the health system(thank god we don’t have health bars anymore), weapons, maps, forge, custom games, story, have not changed too much.
The 3 most visible changes that made it stand out from the previous halos was customizable classes, ordnance, and the ranking system.
> Awards and ratings from gaming journalists do not assure a title’s quality.
No they do not but they help, people are likely to buy a game with strong reviews than a game with bad reviews from critics. It also got many people’s choice awards however.
Also remember that people that are angry with a game are generally more vocal than the people who are not angry with it. Think of it as a government protest, people generally protest/rally because they want something changed not because they are really proud of something that their government did, therefore they will generally be more vocal than the group who is not mad, yes i’m sure there are exceptions.
i just want to throw my opinion out there
this is halo 4, the first game made my 343, with new gameplay mechanics
now before i go on would you like it more if halo never changed? no it would get stale.
but back to the point, if this is the first game by 343 and the first game by them with new gameplay mechanics of coarse it would have problems and people who hate it,
just remember if bungie made this you would give them the time they needed why cant 343 have the same luxury?
forgive me for grammar and typos (if there are any) i am very tired 
> this is halo 4, the first game made my 343, with new gameplay mechanics
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> now before i go on would you like it more if halo never changed? no it would get stale.
No one is asking for “no changes”, we’re asking that the game improves upon an existing formula.
There would be no point in buying (or making, for that matter) a game that makes no changes. Many of Halo 4’s changes were completely unnecessary.
> but back to the point, if this is the first game by 343 and the first game by them with new gameplay mechanics of coarse it would have problems and people who hate it
The fact that problems are inevitable is no excuse for the game’s current state, nor the frustration it causes. Things like the lack of custom game options and file share support, or the lack of a “good connection option” for Australian players (for example) should have never been problems to begin with. 343i should have devoted more time to polishing the game.
Halo 3 had a 3 year development time, and at least half of that was spent on testing the game. Halo 4 didn’t even have an open beta.
> just remember if bungie made this you would give them the time they needed why cant 343 have the same luxury?
Not necessarily. This particular argument does not have a proper response, since said responses will depend on the people responding. Personally, I would not treat Bungie differently. If they released Halo 4, and in the state it’s in now, all that would happen is I would lose respect towards Bungie.
343i had at least 3 years to develop Halo 4, and they had at least 4 previous entries to use as examples. We simply expected more from them.
> forgive me for grammar and typos (if there are any) i am very tired
No need to apologize 
So long as we’re here, sorry if I’m coming off as aggressive or challenging. Not the intention at all, this is just how I write.
> So long as we’re here, sorry if I’m coming off as aggressive or challenging. Not the intention at all, this is just how I write.
nice to know btw i am going to host a custom game in halo 4/reach you in?
I literally just made a thread like this, only mine is a bit more aggressive. We must think alike OP.
> > So long as we’re here, sorry if I’m coming off as aggressive or challenging. Not the intention at all, this is just how I write.
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> nice to know btw i am going to host a custom game in halo 4/reach you in?
Sorry, good sir, but I must decline.
This “It’s 343’s first game, of course things went wrong” argument is completely absurd.
Imagine you hired a new building firm to build you a house, and you ask them to build it to be like all your other houses had lived in before, but with a few modern improvements. They then agree to this and get to work. But then, instead of building a normal house and the home you had expected, you now have a house that is built on 10foot wooden stilts, with glass walls and no air-con/heating. You’re going to be pretty mad, because you were offered a home that you wanted and got something completely different, regardless of whether or not it was their first time building a house.
> The thing is, these people provide page upon page of evidence for why the game is nothing like it’s predecessors and that why certain changes to it would make it a more enjoyable experience overall. Even if you may be satisfied with how the franchise has changed, many people (including myself) are not. If you compare Halo 4 to Halo 3, they are two completely different beasts. You would not be able to tell they were from the same game series. The people here want to change that, so we can get back to the Halo gameplay we know and love.
Dude you would have to be mentally limited or completely blind to not be able to tell they are the same game series. You gave me a good laugh though thanks