WTF is wrong with Halo?

So after a long Destiny break from Halo I decide to come back to Halo. I started with PC custom games. Had a blast for the most part but the biggest problem was finding actual slayer games to participate in. Just when you think all anyone wants to play is slayer, the custom browser proves different. All you can find are weird variations of -Yoink-. You are lucky to find a slayer game. So I thought well I’ll just play on the X1 like the good ol’ days. So I thought I would just start up some Big Team (my favorite) Apparently 343 decided to do away with all the older maps with either (-Yoink-) variations of old maps or 2 out of 3 times I am forced to play on some (alpine map) forge map that isn’t even that fun (help me if you know the name of it). It’s like 343 decided: for Big Team 2 out of 3 times it will be this -Yoink- forge map, and the other third will be -Yoink- variations of old maps. I don’t mind variation don’t get me wrong, but when most of the time I’m either playing a forge map that isn’t even fun or I"m playing on a illogical variation of an old map it’s just not fun anymore. Wtf 343? You could be taking advantage of this and implementing older tried and true (Halo 2 and 3) BT maps instead we get fed this garbage. I literally feel like between Halo 5 PC or X1 Big Team is lost. There are no 5 v 5 or I would play those (remember beta?). It’s all 4 v 4. At this point it looks as though 4 v 4 will be my ‘go to’.

Whoever at 343 is making the call/s as to what maps are in the pool for BT. Do you really thing this garbage is what is going to pull players in? No, it won’t. It all feels like a cluster f’ now.

The maps could use a little bit of work that is for sure. Big team is just not the same as it use to be.

I think 343 allowing community made maps is just what we need. It motivates players to try the new forge, and bring ideas to life. There are some bad ones I’ll give you that, but for the most part I like the BTB maps.

I don’t mind playing on forge maps, not only is it easier for the Devs to not have to make BTB maps, but they’re community made, which I think is great.

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> I don’t mind playing on forge maps, not only is it easier for the Devs to not have to make BTB maps, but they’re community made, which I think is great.

I don’t mind it either, but like I said, 2 out of 3 games are this one (alpine) type map that sucks (wish I knew the name), and the rest are illogical variations of old maps where they try to be cool but fail hard instead. It’s as if they gave the reigns to a 10 year old. Forge maps should really be confined to the custom browser though, not taking over the official BT map pool, unless of course they are actually good forge maps, which I have yet to see. I’m sure there are plenty, yet I’m constantly playing one that sucks.

If you want old maps you have to play MCC.

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> If you want old maps you have to play MCC.

MCC doesn’t work, nor did it ever. I’ve longed since uninstalled it. Even if it did I’m sure it’s a ghost town.

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> > If you want old maps you have to play MCC.
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> MCC doesn’t work, nor did it ever. I’ve longed since uninstalled it.

It works for me and has for a long time sorry for your luck.

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> > MCC doesn’t work, nor did it ever. I’ve longed since uninstalled it.
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> It works for me and has for a long time sorry for your luck.

When I got around to getting it, it worked better then Halo 5 does.

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> > > > If you want old maps you have to play MCC.
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> > > MCC doesn’t work, nor did it ever. I’ve longed since uninstalled it.
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> > It works for me and has for a long time sorry for your luck.
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> When I got around to getting it, it worked better then Halo 5 does.

Maybe I’ll give it another shot then. Too bad I like the mechanics of Halo 5. It’s not that I want old -Yoink-, I want old maps. I want good maps that we often see on older Halo editions. Chances are I’ll find it works great but then don’t like the old mechanics of older Halo styles. I think I can’t win at this point.

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> > I don’t mind playing on forge maps, not only is it easier for the Devs to not have to make BTB maps, but they’re community made, which I think is great.
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> I don’t mind it either, but like I said, 2 out of 3 games are this one (alpine) type map that sucks (wish I knew the name), and the rest are illogical variations of old maps where they try to be cool but fail hard instead. It’s as if they gave the reigns to a 10 year old. Forge maps should really be confined to the custom browser though, not taking over the official BT map pool, unless of course they are actually good forge maps, which I have yet to see. I’m sure there are plenty, yet I’m constantly playing one that sucks.

Could you define ‘actually good’ maps, as well as what qualifies as map as one that ‘suck~~’? Also, what makes the old map variations ‘illogical’?~~
Otherwise, this thread is pointless.

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> > > I don’t mind playing on forge maps, not only is it easier for the Devs to not have to make BTB maps, but they’re community made, which I think is great.
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> > I don’t mind it either, but like I said, 2 out of 3 games are this one (alpine) type map that sucks (wish I knew the name), and the rest are illogical variations of old maps where they try to be cool but fail hard instead. It’s as if they gave the reigns to a 10 year old. Forge maps should really be confined to the custom browser though, not taking over the official BT map pool, unless of course they are actually good forge maps, which I have yet to see. I’m sure there are plenty, yet I’m constantly playing one that sucks.
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> Could you define ‘actually good’ maps, as well as what qualifies as map as one that ‘suck~~’? Also, what makes the old map variations ‘illogical’?~~
> Otherwise, this thread is pointless, then it’s legit. I could come up with definitions if you’d like, but in the end they’ll still be opinions. I’ll tell you what…I’d love to hear your opinion/s of the most recent map pool for Big Team.
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I couldn’t. It’s called opinion. If you deem every thread that’s opinion based as pointless, then caressing forums is pretty pointless, unless of course you are addressing your own opinions.

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> > MCC doesn’t work, nor did it ever. I’ve longed since uninstalled it.
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> It works for me and has for a long time sorry for your luck.

Same here. It worked for me always.

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> > It works for me and has for a long time sorry for your luck.
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> Same here. It worked for me always.

Towards the end it worked better for sure, it only took 6 months. To truly fix it they would have needed to recede it entirely. I’m not the only one who just gave up at that point. The thread isn’t about MCC though.

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> > > > I don’t mind playing on forge maps, not only is it easier for the Devs to not have to make BTB maps, but they’re community made, which I think is great.
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> > > I don’t mind it either, but like I said, 2 out of 3 games are this one (alpine) type map that sucks (wish I knew the name), and the rest are illogical variations of old maps where they try to be cool but fail hard instead. It’s as if they gave the reigns to a 10 year old. Forge maps should really be confined to the custom browser though, not taking over the official BT map pool, unless of course they are actually good forge maps, which I have yet to see. I’m sure there are plenty, yet I’m constantly playing one that sucks.
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> > Could you define ‘actually good’ maps, as well as what qualifies as map as one that ‘suck~~’? Also, what makes the old map variations ‘illogical’?~~
> > Otherwise, this thread is pointless, then it’s legit. I could come up with definitions if you’d like, but in the end they’ll still be opinions. I’ll tell you what…I’d love to hear your opinion/s of the most recent map pool for Big Team.
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I couldn’t. It’s called opinion. If you deem every thread that’s opinion based as pointless, then caressing forums is pretty pointless, unless of course you are addressing your own opinions.
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I’d just like to understand your opinion better. You made a subjective post without explaining why; it’s pointless because we cannot have discussion about it, which is the reason for a forum.

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> > > > > I don’t mind playing on forge maps, not only is it easier for the Devs to not have to make BTB maps, but they’re community made, which I think is great.
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> > > > I don’t mind it either, but like I said, 2 out of 3 games are this one (alpine) type map that sucks (wish I knew the name), and the rest are illogical variations of old maps where they try to be cool but fail hard instead. It’s as if they gave the reigns to a 10 year old. Forge maps should really be confined to the custom browser though, not taking over the official BT map pool, unless of course they are actually good forge maps, which I have yet to see. I’m sure there are plenty, yet I’m constantly playing one that sucks.
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> > > Could you define ‘actually good’ maps, as well as what qualifies as map as one that ‘suck~~’? Also, what makes the old map variations ‘illogical’?~~
> > > Otherwise, this thread is pointless, then it’s legit. I could come up with definitions if you’d like, but in the end they’ll still be opinions. I’ll tell you what…I’d love to hear your opinion/s of the most recent map pool for Big Team.
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I couldn’t. It’s called opinion. If you deem every thread that’s opinion based as pointless, then caressing forums is pretty pointless, unless of course you are addressing your own opinions.
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I’d just like to understand your opinion better. You made a subjective post without explaining why; it’s pointless because we cannot have discussion about it, which is the reason for a forum.
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The subtle changes that have been made on original maps don’t improve them in anyway, just add some variation. Pointless, a term you are apparently familiar with. The other map that I seem to play 2 out of 3 times is just not a fun map, which is entirely opinion. It’s on the alpine forge area. Forge maps in almost all cases can often be fun but rarely measure up to original design maps. Yet it seems this is what BT has evolved to. There are exceptions to this of course, but the map in question (wish I knew the name) is not one of them. Over all it just seems BT has taken a dive to what it used to be. I would still love to hear your opinion on the state of BT. I would just like to understand your opinion better. Maybe it’s just me.