To say Blood Gulch (BG) is one of the most loved Halo maps of all time is an understatement. Just google “blood gulch top multiplayer maps” and one is presented with a torrent of top 10 lists this map has been added to.
Its a fan favorite and would be an excellent remake for the 4v4 and BTB playlists. BG even back in Halo CE was very easy to play 4v4 on. With sprint now in this fact should be amplified even more.
> BG=/= hemm or Ragnarok
Dont let hemorrhage kill your views of Blood Gulch. The 2 are VERY different. The fact there is cover near one of the teleporters really kills foot traffic through the middle. In BG rolling hills were used to skew sight lines,and as cover to advance which, and the center rockets and powerup made every part of the map useful to walk through. The lack of 2 fast spawning shotties at each base also slowed up games and made going inside a base difficult since defenders had only 1 of 2 shottys on the map. In CE one would grab a shotty from their base before they stormed an enemy base.
> valhalla/ragnarock also is nothing like BG.
So much of Valhalla is centered around capturing center laser hill, something that was non existant in BG. Also lifts made camping middle easier since incoming challengers could be shot at when very vulnerable. Teleporters made camping very hard since incoming players could come at any second and blindside you if you looked away if but for a moment.
So yeh, would you want this halo legend to return in a future map pack?
Ragnerock. Blood gultch respawn locations are terrible. Valhalla was a huge improvment on the original idea. Limited sightlines, good spawns, natural vantage points, as compared to infinte sightlines, terrible spawns, and a few small hills.
A proper blood gulch remake would be nice. Certainly nicer than a Valhalla remake. I liked Valhalla and all, but i’ve never considered it one of those ‘classic’ maps that needs to be remade.
I can think of plenty of maps I would have liked remade more than both BG and Valhalla though. In terms of BTB maps alone I would have preferred any of the Halo PC exclusive maps, sidewinder, waterworks, and zanzibar/last resort.
Oh my god, yes. Ever since Halo CE Blood Gulch was my most favorite and beloved map. I remember going on everyday as a kid to play on that map with friends, and competitively with people. I guess I don’t really have any other reason than that to actually add it into the game, so carry on I suppose.
It’s quite the well played map too, I’d say #2 on the BTB all time played list right behind the BG-map/variations.
For those that crave nostalgia, it’s OK to have
I like the spiritual successors we’ve seen. I usually love those because they can “fix” things, like Valhalla’s hump and decently placed cover to allow more movement than BG’s variants.
> Ragnerock. Blood gultch respawn locations are terrible. Valhalla was a huge improvment on the original idea. Limited sightlines, good spawns, natural vantage points, as compared to infinte sightlines, terrible spawns, and a few small hills.
hey if you think camp the laser hill is fun…more power to you lol
> -Yoink!- NO!!!
> The closest thing you’ll ever get is Valhalla.
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> Blood Gulch has been overly remade, it’s time to give that poor map a retirement.
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> The more you remake it, the of a pile of crap it looks like.
To be honest the map has never really been remade… So much of greatness is in the details and how they all come together. You change one thing and everything gets thrown out of whack. Coag stretched the map out and killed foot traffic with rocks by tele, valhalla made capturing laser hill the be all end all and hemm stretched it out and completely inverted the canyon walls.
A good map like blood gulch is like the human body, break homeostasis even a little bit and the whole thing shuts down.
I think its time for a 343 remake, who unlike bungie, actually respect the map they are remaking instead of being prideful and think they can make lightning strike twice.
I voted yes, but I honestly prefer Valhalla. Blood Gulch was great in CE, awful in Halo 2, and good enough in Reach. But Valhalla seemed to have promoted more movement, and I feel there were more options and strategies one could take with the drastically different paths to choose compared to Blood Gulch. I am completely content with Valhalla being remade, but Blood Gulch would still be nice too. I expect a Forger will take care of that.
No I want Relic, Colossus, Terminal, Containment, Waterworks, Turf, Sidewinder, Elongation, Desolation, or any other interesting classics I forgot.
I’m tired of people wanting dull remakes like Valhalla, Sandtrap, Blood Gulch, I want something that brings other excitement then just a plain map and vehicles. I was seriously mad when they announced the remake was Valhalla, it is one of the most boring stale maps in all of Halo in my opinion. After hearing all the “they are remaking a map that Isn’t available on any Xbox 360 game right now” I was very excited for one of the maps I listed, then they announced Valhalla -_-.
I’d rather 343i not spend time or resources to remake Blood Gulch… again. Open up for new maps, ones meant for the game. Not overly-remade ones that surprisingly might fit the game.
> > -Yoink!- NO!!!
> > The closest thing you’ll ever get is Valhalla.
> >
> > Blood Gulch has been overly remade, it’s time to give that poor map a retirement.
> >
> > The more you remake it, the of a pile of crap it looks like.
>
> To be honest the map has never really been remade… So much of greatness is in the details and how they all come together. You change one thing and everything gets thrown out of whack. Coag stretched the map out and killed foot traffic with rocks by tele, valhalla made capturing laser hill the be all end all and hemm stretched it out and completely inverted the canyon walls.
>
> A good map like blood gulch is like the human body, break homeostasis even a little bit and the whole thing shuts down.
>
> I think its time for a 343 remake, who unlike bungie, actually respect the map they are remaking instead of being prideful and think they can make lightning strike twice.
It’s been remade in Halo 2 and Reach, you don’t think of those maps as remakes cause they don’t look, feel like the original, which is WHY WE DON’T NEED ANY MORE REMAKES OF IT.
LEAVE IT IN THE PAST.
If they respect blood gulch as a map, they’ll make a spiritual successors, not a remake.
> > > -Yoink!- NO!!!
> > > The closest thing you’ll ever get is Valhalla.
> > >
> > > Blood Gulch has been overly remade, it’s time to give that poor map a retirement.
> > >
> > > The more you remake it, the of a pile of crap it looks like.
> >
> > To be honest the map has never really been remade… So much of greatness is in the details and how they all come together. You change one thing and everything gets thrown out of whack. Coag stretched the map out and killed foot traffic with rocks by tele, valhalla made capturing laser hill the be all end all and hemm stretched it out and completely inverted the canyon walls.
> >
> > A good map like blood gulch is like the human body, break homeostasis even a little bit and the whole thing shuts down.
> >
> > I think its time for a 343 remake, who unlike bungie, actually respect the map they are remaking instead of being prideful and think they can make lightning strike twice.
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> <mark>It’s been remade in Halo 2 and Reach</mark>, you don’t think of those maps as remakes cause they don’t look, feel like the original, which is WHY WE DON’T NEED ANY MORE REMAKES OF IT.
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> LEAVE IT IN THE PAST. No, and typing in caps doesn’t make you cool bro
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> If they respect blood gulch as a map, they’ll make a spiritual successors, not a remake.
I just gave reasons as to why it never really was remade. You can not even back up your position as to why previous so called remakes would even qualify as “remakes”. If someone remade a 1966 corvette but changed the seats, hood, and added a prius engine is it really comparable to the original?
No I dont think those maps are remakes because of the map changes they made which had deleterious effects which I have outlined on the first page.
It has nothing to do with “look” or “feel” I am talking about factual things like map geometry, weapon placement, and player to terrain ratios.
