… what the heck is going to happen in Halo 5? Anyone have any theories? Does Silentium change what you though Halo 5 was going to be about?
Seeing as the Halo Array likely destroyed all Prescursor presence in the galaxy, including the Domain, does anyone think they will have a major role in Halo 5 (more than just being mentioned?
Will the Flood be back in full force for Halo 5? I know in Primordium… I think? or some novel that the Flood are about due to test humanity to see if they are ready to hold the Mantle? I’m a little confused about that one.[/spoiler] Spark says he knows where the Librarian is at the end of Primordium… Is he just going rampant or did the Librarian make a great escape somehow? And where could she have even gone and how would she have gotten there?So there were Forrunners that survived the Halos firing on the Lesser Ark… Assuming they didn’t let themselves go extinct, where could they be now?I just finished it yesterday and it was much less satisfying than I had hoped. [spoiler]While we learned a great deal about the Precursors, they still are very mysterious and we don’t really know too much about them. I also couldn’t mentally picture star roads in my head… or how they destroyed Omega Halo and the Greater Ark.
The Primordial said that Humanity will rise in arrogance and defiance, and the Flood will return when they are ripe.
Silentium revealed that the Flood/Precursor’s goal is no longer to find worthy Mantle holders. They will ensure that no creation will ever rise in such force against its creater. All that is created will suffer.
The Old Precursors (Primordial) were for the test. The Flood are not. And now, all the active old Precursors are gone.
So, soon, the Flood will return. And we will likely be expected to suffer the same fate as the Forerunners. A long, terrible war and utter destruction. We will be added to the Flood to create new Graveminds, new Precursors.
This will be coming from outside the galaxy.
Precursor presence right now was eliminated. We still don’t know precisely how they may work, so it is still possible the Flood will stretch other Precursor artifacts into the galaxy. Humanity is basically doomed without the Halos.
The Librarian part is still open for now. We don’t know, but we’ll cross paths with the UNSC Rubicon (the ship he stole) soon. The Librarian is likely gone, but her imprint or geas may be somewhere.
The surviving Forerunners likely exiled themselves. No one was on the Lesser Ark or in Shield Words. All the rest were killed by the Halos and/or the attack on the Greater Ark.
I personally loved Silentium. A great peice of hard Sci-Fi. Extreme technology, ancient mysteries, corruption, explanation, and even more questions. Considering that the Reclaimer Trilogy is to be based somewhat off of the Forerunner Trilogy (the events it set up)… leaving questions to be answered in the games is great for me.
> And now, all the active old Precursors are gone.
Ah but where are they? I don’t believe they are all dead since they said that some of them had gone dormant, while others became the Flood. So where are the Precursors who went dormant?
There’s too much unknown right now for much of a guess about Halo 5. Both, in universe and real world stuff. If there’s not more Spartan Ops, the cliffhanger from it will likely factor into H5. That’s going to be a real world decision that will directly effect the fiction most likely. The Karen Traviss series still has to wrap up for us to see how much of a factor other Covie factions/the species we haven’t seen will play. Also, the Innies are brewing again and we don’t have resolution for that until the third book.
Concretely, all we have going right now is the Janus Key stuff and 343 Guilty Spark/UNSC Rubicon. There’s ample and fertile opportunity for those two open plots to coincide with one another. I’d actually be surprised if they weren’t tied together in some regard.
Any Flood/Precursor talk is all speculation with no real weight to it at this point. It’s just as likely to not occur as to occur in my view. As far as we know, all the ominous Primodrial talk was grandstanding to freak the Forerunners out and the shift to include humanity was fulfilled with what we saw in the Flood outbreak of the original three games. Frankly, 2500’s humanity as we see it has absolutely no chance against the kind of Flood incursion we witnessed in Forerunner/ancient humanity times. We don’t have the numbers or the technology to do a fraction of what they did and they lost before the ultimate sacrifice.
If they’re going to go with a Flood/Precursor deal, the Janus Key could lead to some amazing discoveries for humanity (stores of technology and ships), then we might have a chance considering we have the knowledge of what did happen and therefore have the hindsight to not make the same mistakes. If that kind of thing occurs, it’s why I’ve said before that no Flood forces will show up until Halo 6. We have to see humanity getting to a place where it’s even possible to combat and survive which would be the result of Halo 5 in that scenario. I don’t mean the active plot of Halo 5, the characters won’t have a clue, but the outcome of what happens within its story (finding all Forerunner sites if the Janus Key is as important as I believe) might get us in a position to be a more dominant presence in the galaxy for something like a real Flood outbreak in Halo 6.
As far as your mild dissatisfaction with Silentium, I’m with you to a certain degree. It was the most coherent and well told tale of the Forerunner Saga, but it really followed the Halo 4 terminals closer than I expected. It gave us context for a lot of that, which we didnt have before, but it was less exciting because there was no real discovery for much of the tale; we’d seen it. With not being able to picture star roads, that’s the entire series for me; all three books. Anything in these novels that I didn’t have visual reference for from the games or Origins was simply lost upon me. It was still the best written book of the Forerunner Saga, but Cryptum had the best story. (Though, the Librarian’s expedition was beyond great.)
In terms of the Star Roads, I honestly pictured crystalline, green looking things like this. “Sphere of Ptolemy”
Just pulsating rotating rings of unbending filament, and I imagined them just sorta of colliding with the greater ark and omega halo, tearing them apart like buzz saws.
If I’m not mistaken Guilty Spark says he knows where the Lifeshaper is at the end of Primordium. After Silentium that is not necessarily The Librarian…
> We will be added to the Flood to create new Graveminds, new Precursors.
This is a really dumb question but what you said just reminded me of it.
Can there be more than one Gravemind in the galaxy at the same time? I thought I remember reading/hearing somewhere that there can only be one at any given time.
> If I’m not mistaken Guilty Spark says he knows where the Lifeshaper is at the end of Primordium. After Silentium that is not necessarily The Librarian…
I thought he said Librarian in primordium, not life shaper, considering how he wants to find her cause he’s randomly nuts in love with her or some such.
> > If I’m not mistaken Guilty Spark says he knows where the Lifeshaper is at the end of Primordium. After Silentium that is not necessarily The Librarian…
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> I thought he said Librarian in primordium, not life shaper, considering how he wants to find her cause he’s randomly nuts in love with her or some such.
He says Lifeshaper but he specifically says “Some say she is dead, that she died on Earth. But that is demonstrably untrue.” Sounds like the Librarian to me.
Edit: Actually now that I think about it, what he could have meant is “Lifeshaper” specifically. Basically they know the Librarian was a Lifeshaper and that she died on Earth. However she had promoted Chant To Green Lifeshaper before she died which could explain why he says it’s untrue the Lifeshaper died on Earth. Basically the Librarian did in fact die but the Lifeshaper did not because Chant To Green is the new Lifeshaper.
He does say that he and the Didact love her to this day though and that still sounds like the Librarian to me. Unless the IsoDidact fell in love with Chant or something like that?
I personally am glad they put the nail in the coffin of the Precursor’s. All the Precursors ever did was cause confusion in the halo community. You literally can take them and there “Star Roads” (Whatever the freak those are)out of the entire series and the books would still play out the same without any lacking. I hated the whole idea that Humans and Forerunners were created by some BS god alien things. They are unneeded and I hope that this is the last that we see of them. Cause their whole story thread was lack luster and just filler in my opinion.
Ultimate question where did the Flood come from???.. Answer an alien race that you will know nothing more about other than they killed themselves to kill everything else in the universe. Oh and then lets leave no trace of them so you will never find out anything else about them… Really!? Might as well just have left the Flood a mystery… Dont get me wrong I liked this trilogy, not loved liked. But the Precursors really just ruined it for me.
> > > If I’m not mistaken Guilty Spark says he knows where the Lifeshaper is at the end of Primordium. After Silentium that is not necessarily The Librarian…
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> > I thought he said Librarian in primordium, not life shaper, considering how he wants to find her cause he’s randomly nuts in love with her or some such.
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> He says Lifeshaper but he specifically says “Some say she is dead, that she died on Earth. But that is demonstrably untrue.” Sounds like the Librarian to me.
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> Edit: Actually now that I think about it, what he could have meant is “Lifeshaper” specifically. Basically they know the Librarian was a Lifeshaper and that she died on Earth. However she had promoted Chant To Green Lifeshaper before she died which could explain why he says it’s untrue the Lifeshaper died on Earth. Basically the Librarian did in fact die but the Lifeshaper did not because Chant To Green is the new Lifeshaper.
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> He does say that he and the Didact love her to this day though and that still sounds like the Librarian to me. Unless the IsoDidact fell in love with Chant or something like that?
Well they were the two top authority figures on the Lesser Ark… It’s certainly possible.
