I hope its not only in one playlist.
> I hope its not only in one playlist.
Same here.
Scrap Arena, its a fail. Give us multiple ranked lists using Zero Bloom and 120% movement.
The population of Arena is proof that its a joke.
Never really did much Arena anyway, but one time this summer, i alone decided to go into it, 6 days later i had top 80% Onyx, then i stopped because it wasnt really that much of a challenge
> Never really did much Arena anyway, but one time this summer, i alone decided to go into it, 6 days later i had top 80% Onyx, then i stopped because it wasnt really that much of a challenge
I hit 3% onyx, couldnt play for a few days, had a really great night when i did so was expect 2% maybe 1% if i was lucky but no, went down to 15% haha.
point is, Arena encourages you to no-life it if you want to maintain a high rank, i lost interest after season 8 due to it not being fun and plus the amount of camping that happens is hilarious.
I wonder how many single digits would still be that high if Arena was Classic settings (120% movement + Zero Bloom), since all the crutches would be removed.
Now this isnt a personal attack on single digits, a few i have met are actually really good players, just some are only single digit mainly because they can play a lot more game’s.
> I wonder how many single digits would still be that high if Arena was Classic settings (120% movement + Zero Bloom), since all the crutches would be removed
Better question. How many single digits would be that high if jetpack was removed and the 2’s trick was fixed?..
I just hope they take out Bloom entirely. How awesome would that be? 
I’m prrreeettyy sure MLG will adopt ZB (Zero Bloom). That’s the #1 thing most of them that do play complain about in the end. And if they can play without it? YEAH they’re going to do it. I think they already have an MLG settings gametype under ZB. I’ve already played one a few times.
Arena? Yeah… it IS a complete joke. That’s why I’ve never played it like that. My K/D is actually alot higher in that b/c of it, lol. Plus I don’t have alot of friends to call on for a 4-person team (3 others). I don’t even care about K/D… or “Onyx” like SO what? You have an imaginary rank and some numbers over me? I’m sure my skill is just as equal, if not better. Just face me to find out.
ZB gametype has made me in-tune with this game now. Handling Bloom is nothing if you truly know what you’re doing. Not kidding here it’s the truth. It’s been a LONG time since I did REALLY good in MM (MatchMaking) and the past few days I’ve had 24, 26, and even 31 kills in a game. All being Team Slayer. All my ToD’s were mostly DMR/Magnum. 1 Match was Needle Rifle, 1 was Sword (was on Sword Base, go fig.?).
Bloom is/was a terrible implement into the game. And was done terribly (sry, Bungie). It WORKS to an extent, but sometimes you just want to throw that controller RIGHT through your TV set!
I’m patiently waiting for the TU playlists on the 4th of Oct. I WANT to try 85% Bloom now! It seems from the videos i’ve seen at least, that it works ALOT better. I’m so ready to get my hands on it if I’m so accustom to Reach’s normal Bloom, and Zero Bloom… yeah…
It could possibly fix this game, in a sense.
I really hope zero bloom makes it to Arena. It really is a great system, but the gameplay drives away most players and thus has a low population. I’m telling you, if Arena adopts zero bloom, gets rid of jetpack, and expands to other playlists, population and competition will definitely rise.
It’s already difficult enough to reach 1% Onyx (highest I’ve gotten is 3%). Just imagine how much harder it will be if these changes occurred.
They definitely need to put zero bloom in arena. Also while there at it they need to add more playlist to arena. We need team snipers, doubles, swat and team objective in arena too. All with zero bloom. I’m also pretty sure that mlg will have no bloom too. I wish all the playlist would have no bloom but we already no that’s not going to happen.
I really hope 343i makes all arena gametypes zero bloom. It just makes sense…and bring back Arena Doubles!
What i seem to find is ZB works amazingly well on 120% movement, MLG is 110% movement which personally i think is still too easy, the majority seem to be using ZB with MLG settings.
And the jetpack is a joke, i play bumper jumper so i get punished because of my control style by some tool who can camp area’s that are basically exploits 
> I really hope 343i makes all arena gametypes zero bloom. It just makes sense…and bring back Arena Doubles!
Same but on standard movement it’s still horrible, 120% bring backs skilled strafe/aim.
> > I really hope 343i makes all arena gametypes zero bloom. It just makes sense…and bring back Arena Doubles!
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> Same but on standard movement it’s still horrible, 120% bring backs skilled strafe/aim.
I agree that the game speed needs a bump up…failed to mention that. I am okay with 110% or 120%. It’s still kind of a bummer because aim acceleration makes all movement a bit wonky no matter what speed you play on.
> > I really hope 343i makes all arena gametypes zero bloom. It just makes sense…and bring back Arena Doubles!
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> Same but on standard movement it’s still horrible, 120% bring backs skilled strafe/aim.
120% feels like ice skating, not really liking it. SWAT will benefit greatly from bloom too 
> I really hope zero bloom makes it to Arena. It really is a great system, but the gameplay drives away most players and thus has a low population. I’m telling you, if Arena adopts zero bloom, gets rid of jetpack, and expands to other playlists, population and competition will definitely rise.
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> It’s already difficult enough to reach 1% Onyx (highest I’ve gotten is 3%). Just imagine how much harder it will be if these changes occurred.
This exactly. AT THE VERY LEAST arena needs to be implemented in more playlists, like team slayer, snipers, swat, mlg, etc. If 343 made another rank system one like halo 2 or 3… I have no words to describe how happy I would be.
Oh mighty Franke, heed our words!
We pray you fix the arena playlist with your divine gift of no bloom.
> > I really hope zero bloom makes it to Arena. It really is a great system, but the gameplay drives away most players and thus has a low population. I’m telling you, if Arena adopts zero bloom, gets rid of jetpack, and expands to other playlists, population and competition will definitely rise.
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> > It’s already difficult enough to reach 1% Onyx (highest I’ve gotten is 3%). Just imagine how much harder it will be if these changes occurred.
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> This exactly. AT THE VERY LEAST arena needs to be implemented in more playlists, like team slayer, snipers, swat, mlg, etc. If 343 made another rank system one like halo 2 or 3… I have no words to describe how happy I would be.
Someone at microsoft created the “true skill” ranking system. Because microsoft owns it they are requiring it be used in halo. If any ranking system was added it will be the exact same as arena, so it will only work on killing gametypes. Nothing with objective. It might not even work in FFA.
The system works for placement but isnt fun for a lot of players actually. Bloom is horrible yes but the problem with “true skill” is that it accurately places you by putting you against extremes and then narrowing the extremes. This can be annoying because you get put up against easy people, then people who are far above you. The problem is you arnt regularly put against people at your skill level. As people get better and achieve a hire rank there are less extremes so it can seem less frustrating.(only because the system isnt working as intended)
Either way arena sucks because you dont get to play people at your skill level. Get raped or dont even try. Top tier players dont mind as much because they are raping anyway. As long as microsoft thinks True skill is good there wont be a ranking system that is fun for players. This last bit is my opinion though.
> I hope its not only in one playlist.
Since MLG will be picking up ZB for Reach’s 2012 season, the MG playlist will also likely become ZB, to reflect MLG’s current settings.
As far as the Arena goes, it’ll probably stay the same, maybe go 85%.