will jetpack be removed from arena?

It ruins it. 9 out of 10 games, 7 out of 10 players are using it.

Reminds me of armor lock usage in the other playlist, hmm.

At this time it is unknown, although, with the recent uproar of complaints about it, it is likely.

Although, what I don’t get is, if 7/8 people are using it, people like using it.

> At this time it is unknown, although, with the recent uproar of complaints about it, it is likely.
>
> Although, what I don’t get is, if 7/8 people are using it, people like using it.

I don’t get why. Unless they are 6 and think its so cool to jetpack everywhere.

> At this time it is unknown, although, with the recent uproar of complaints about it, it is likely.
>
> Although, what I don’t get is, if 7/8 people are using it, people like using it.

false. people use it most of the time because it is the best technical choice. sometimes theres a mix between the AA’s selection for a serious team, but people use jet pack because its inherently strong, and can be exploited and WILL BE EXPLOITED by the other team.

you either jet pack, or you get jet pack’d. its mandatory to have 1 AT THE VERY LEAST players jet packing if you are playing optimally on almost every map.

just because people use jet pack doesnt mean they want it in the playlist.

i think jet pack is pretty laughably overpowered, so i enjoy using it.

its actually so blatantly overpowered that i can use it and do well with BUMPER JUMPER.

im not sure if you understand what this means. with bumper jumper it is near impossible to jet pack while shooting. pretty hilarious that when i use jet pack effectively, it doesnt even matter that i cant shoot while using it like most people do. thats because i dont have to. im not an idiot with jet pack who just flies straight up. i use it to purposefully go to the top of maps in the ‘soft kill barriers’ to stand there for a whopping ten seconds. i use this time to kill usually 1 or 2 of the enemy team, then drop down to cover with ease. i also know of a TON of places in matchmaking where you can fly to exploit spots and sit there indefinitely.

seems good being able to stand in the ‘hand of god’ and reign infinite death upon the plebeians trying to kill you, or even dissuade your killing prowess from such an advantageous vantage point.

the ONLY MAP that jet pack should stay included is SWORD BASE. aside from that, it should be expunged with great prejudice.

> At this time it is unknown, although, with the recent uproar of complaints about it, it is likely.
>
> Although, what I don’t get is, if 7/8 people are using it, people like using it.

If you were given the option to start with a rocket launcher secondary…would you do it or stick with your AR? Does the fact that most (hopefully all) would choose rockets mean it is good for gameplay?

> At this time it is unknown, although, with the recent uproar of complaints about it, it is likely.
>
> Although, what I don’t get is, if 7/8 people are using it, people like using it.

This is why.

Arena as a whole is in need of serious renovation. The selection of maps has become quite redundant, Jet Pack is easily exploitable with the present state of maps and gametypes, TU-settings are still absent, and there is one ranked playlist offering only one gametype. What needs to be done to take Arena to its true potential goes above and beyond the set boundaries of a mere patch. Nay, Arena needs an update! A new set of Forge maps, DLC integration, Jet Pack limited to certain maps (like Prisoner and Sword Base), all gametypes with TU settings, and to top it all off, a huge jackpot offering incentive to party in The Arena.

Reach is dead. At this point it doesn’t even matter what they do, no one will play it.

> > At this time it is unknown, although, with the recent uproar of complaints about it, it is likely.
> >
> > Although, what I don’t get is, if 7/8 people are using it, people like using it.
>
> If you were given the option to start with a rocket launcher secondary…would you do it or stick with your AR? Does the fact that most (hopefully all) would choose rockets mean it is good for gameplay?

I wasn’t talking about using a rocket launcher as a secondary, stay on subject.

> Reach is dead. At this point it doesn’t even matter what they do, no one will play it.

When Halo started, ten years ago, 500,000+ players a day was record setting. Mind blowing. And the fact that there are less than ten games on the market that can do that seems to imply that it’s very much alive.

Have a tiny bit of perspective k? Quake 4 is dead. Duke Nukem Forever is dead. Frontline is dead. Halo Reach? Doing just fine, maybe not steroid freak Halo 3 awesome, but still better than the hundreds of games out there.

Hopefully. We’ve been asking for its removal since the beginning of season 7.

> false. people use it most of the time because it is the best technical choice. sometimes theres a mix between the AA’s selection for a serious team, but people use jet pack because its inherently strong, and can be exploited and WILL BE EXPLOITED by the other team.

It might be more balanced if all AA were to be included in Arena, this appears to be one of the unforseen problems created when removing chunks of the original design.

> you either jet pack, or you get jet pack’d. its mandatory to have 1 AT THE VERY LEAST players jet packing if you are playing optimally on almost every map.

Trading ground support for air support has its consequeces in all forms of combat including digital combat.

> just because people use jet pack doesnt mean they want it in the playlist.

Just because you dont want it in the Arena, does not mean that other players dont enjoy it being there.

> i think jet pack is pretty laughably overpowered, so i enjoy using it.

That kinda fits this description=Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have.[1] Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie

> its actually so blatantly overpowered that i can use it and do well with BUMPER JUMPER.

Thats awesome.

> im not sure if you understand what this means. with bumper jumper it is near impossible to jet pack while shooting. pretty hilarious that when i use jet pack effectively, it doesnt even matter that i cant shoot while using it like most people do. thats because i dont have to. im not an idiot with jet pack who just flies straight up. i use it to purposefully go to the top of maps in the ‘soft kill barriers’ to stand there for a whopping ten seconds. i use this time to kill usually 1 or 2 of the enemy team, then drop down to cover with ease. i also know of a TON of places in matchmaking where you can fly to exploit spots and sit there indefinitely.

Double awesome.

> seems good being able to stand in the ‘hand of god’ and reign infinite death upon the plebeians trying to kill you, or even dissuade your killing prowess from such an advantageous vantage point.

Fix the map, not remove the fun is the best solution.

> the ONLY MAP that jet pack should stay included is SWORD BASE. aside from that, it should be expunged with great prejudice.

Are there any other rules you would like to set for everybody else based on your preference?

I broke my disc last night because of jet pack.:’( Take it out so i can go buy a new reach.

eh, it’s either remove jetpack or add evade.

we can all agree that jet pack breaks the gameplay that was intended because of poor map design.