Will Halo die before anti-cheat, battle royal, forge, and new maps?

so far the only problem i see more is the population will not become big.
and i not care about that problem that the population will not become big if only players that have buy the campaign can play it.
since the bad effect’s are much worse like we see now with matchmaking when its F2P that it has worse bad effect’s.
not forget that if its become f2p that the you get also the same crap bad effect’s we see now in matchmaking with cheaters and so.

i have play COD for a long time when there was no battle royal in the first plase and i have see no cheaters in the multiplayer from any old titels from cod.
maybe it was only on the PC versions off the serie’s.
but on the concole versions there i have not see any cheater.
and there was no big deal back then since there was no crossplay platform system at all.
same with the old halo serie’s on the xbox also not found any cheater in the match i have play.

now its a diffrend story with game’s like cod and halo more since there have now crossplatform and are also free to play when has proof to become a big fail.
so that it will be locked by a pay wall more is the best and only save thing to keep the cheaters out since there can block there game disc that its become useless for battle royal more.

and still i like to see more the Halo 5 warzone version and firefight make a return in a new way then any BR mode for halo.

I’m saying cheaters will still be in a battle royale or other multiplayer mode that costs money to play.

Consoles tend to have less cheaters, but I’ve seen quite a few even on consoles.
In Halo 3, it got quite bad after a while.

but do you really think that people keep buying the game again and again only to cheat in a battle royal mode that there have spent a lot off money only for buying the game to cheat in a battle royal mode.
if there is a battle royal mode is comming there most never make it F2P since thats only become worse and worse look at matchmaking how worse it has become since it have make it F2P that there are a lot off cheaters active there.
i think a lot off other players are happy with the less population effect if there put it on the disc version or digital version from the game that only players that have buy the campaign from halo infinite can only play the battle royal mode and not F2P players like matchmaking has.

Honestly i hope they pull the plug and remake the game from scratch

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You say “no Battle Royale” as if that’s a bad thing.

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You really can’t. Attrition is kinda fun, while Battle Royales are just boring.

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After 6 more years to make the new “Halo: Infinite (For Real this time, pinky swearsies!)”:

“Okay guys, so this time we have Slayer as a permanent playlist. And that’s it. No other playlists. Also, Challenges are new and TOTALLY improved! Challenges can now only be cleared by swiping your credit-card, which we feel is an improvement to our bottom line! You’re welcome! The store is filled with just the colour white for $50, and other items are more expensive.”

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This is dumb, wether or not you like Fortnite it’s ridiculous to deny that it was and probably still is a fantastic Battle Royale game and shooter in general. Really innovative too! shame it wrecked MTX’s forever…

I’ll never play a Battle Royale on Halo because it just would not work at all.

Halo is a sandbox game with a specific set of spawnable weapons. It’s nothing like Call of Duty that allows for a diverse way of play between set weapons.

There’s a reason you can’t clutch a win in a game like Attrition. It just doesn’t work.

Ok so Halo has spoons, and CoD has forks? :thinking:

Can’t argue with that logic :man_shrugging:

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The one time I’m not mad at auto-correct :joy:

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Apparently they’re doing something to that effect.

I’d say it being on PC and not having a great defense against cheating is the reason that it’s so bad, not that it’s free-to-play.
While cheating happens on consoles, it doesn’t depend on whether the games are free-to-play or not.

Battle royales need a lot of players in each match.
Limiting the mode’s population wouldn’t be a good thing to do unless they added bots with a leveling system.

Even ignoring the effect it might have had on microtransactions, I think you’ll find yourself agreeing with Rambo about wishing it hadn’t been a battle royale (and making tons of money as a result) in the future.

That’s not true at all.
There’s no reason a battle royale wouldn’t work in Halo.
Call of Duty doesn’t allow you to set your weapon when you start in a battle royale, and there aren’t really many weapons in Call of Duty, just variations of several categories.
Besides that, they could make more weapon variations for a battle royale anyway.

As for Attrition, it’s nothing like a battle royale, and the reason you can’t clutch a match is because the maps aren’t large enough, and your teammates revive in the same spot instead of somewhere else.

i play long on the xbox all since halo 3 more.
and i have play a lot off diffrend game’s online also.
and most off the multiplayer i have play was alway’s in Cod or halo.
and i have never see any cheater in all the years i have play multiplayer on the xbox any cheater for the xbox game’s.
not in any COD multiplayer or halo matchmaking.

and look Warzone now its a battle royal mode that is Free To Play and you see also how manny cheaters there are and have been banned all.
and there are 850.000 accounts banned since there launch to 23 december last year.
thats why Free To Play is worse for game’s like Cod and halo that is only become worse and worse in the end.
and its more worse when its a battle royal also.

thats why a battle royal mode is worse for the halo serie’s more.
the halo serie’s has there own favorite game mode’s that need to return.
like Warzone from halo 5 with some chance here and there to make it perfect.
and firefight with some chance’s here and there also to make it more better.
and not make then also not Free To Play then there can add more the MCC challence system more that you need tokens to unlock costmatic.

You’re fortunate then, because I’ve run into cheaters in both series on the Xbox 360.

As I said, games get cheaters regardless of being free-to-play or having a battle royale.

Those modes should be added first, but there’s no good reason for why a battle royale shouldn’t be added further down the line.

there is still a diffrend between a lot off things before you know its a cheater.
for exemple in MW2 on few maps in multiplayer are hidden spots you can reach easy or can come without using any type off cheats to come there.
also its about the skill.
you need to know what for type gun you can best use on what for type map.
a map that has a lot more open space and almost no space to hide is a good sniper map.
and some other maps are good for close range weapons and worse for snipers.

same with halo 4 in multiplayer if somebody has master how to use the scorpoin tank or mantis good to make a lot off kills and not let it get destroy so easy then its deadly for the enemy team to win against it.

the battle royal mode formule has a lot off problems that has Black ops 4 has show more.
we all know the worst effect from the F2P forumle in multiplayer game’s.
and mix then together and you get the Cod Warzone effect.

but let me tell you this.
Black ops 4 has a battle royal mode and it was not free to play since it was a replace for the campaign mode.
and that has done a good thing with almost no cheaters in it.
but it has show also a lot off other problems also what you get and that are all fun destroy’s you get so the formule is more worthless for shooters.

if you wane know what the problems are then i share it to you.
players use vehicles to kill other players with it always on the end off the zone so that means if there is a halo version coming the banshee and wasp are getting the most problems.
the next target will be the Ghost, Chopper,Gungoose,Warthog,Razorback,Scorpoin tank,Wraith and maybe also the Mongoose.
after that maybe the power weapons are the next thing.
so that for type complains you will get.

i think there need to focus more on the New and better version off Firefight and the New and good version of Halo 5 Warzone.
and keep the Battle royal mode out off the halo serie’s and for sure out off infinite.

if its become a seperate game like Halo wars then i got no problems with it if there make it also F2P but making it part off halo infinite is not good.

I know what you’re saying, but I’m talking about things like players immediately shooting me at my spawn points, even through walls on Valhalla, not even letting my team move.
Edit: Actually, it might’ve been on Reach’s Hemorrhage map.

CoD had a lot of glitches (people getting under maps, above maps, in walls, etc.), but I’m not talking about those either.

They could limit vehicles to the Mongoose, Razorback, Transport Hornet, etc.
Also, power weapons have limited ammo.

I’d like to see many improvements to Firefight, but I think they could do that and then add a battle royale.

Not sure why you’d think that.
It not being part of Infinite would mean people likely wouldn’t have their cosmetics from Infinite if they played it.

this is something that has been talk also a lot since 2 years ago more on this thread.
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/infinite-needs-battle-royale/248224/251
(a good remember before you going to read it its 251 page’s long and its a big mass with the quete’s there since its a old thread before there have chance the forum so yea then you know it)
and still there there are a lot that not wane see it in the halo game’s or wane see it more seprate from the main series.
and this one is from 2018 and has 632 page’s long so the discusion about the battle royal is old more and long,
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/halo-infinite-needs-battle-royal-to-stay-relevant/258427

its not only firefight its also Warzone from halo 5 that needs a lot off chance’s and get update’s with new maps.
and not forget the matchmaking there need to keep up to date also with the campaign mode.
so adding also a battle royal mode is think to much work there can do when you have Matchmaking + campaign + Firefight maybe + Warzone maybe.

the limit is not the problem.
its more the way’s there going to be use are becoming a problem.

what has happing in BO4 blackout was at some point a lot off people use the vehicles to splat all the players more so the fun at some point was gone more since there was almost notting to do against it.

if there was a scorpoin tank there then its sure been a problem at some point that things like that are going to happing.

Seems to be the same thing as the other topics.
Some don’t want it because they haven’t played battle royales, some don’t like the mode, some wouldn’t mind it, and some want it.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Warzone added, but it seems to be disliked as well.

If that’s true, they should not add anything but campaign content or basic multiplayer content.
However, they’re not a small company.

I’ve played battle royales with vehicles, and they’re quite powerful when running into players, but it wouldn’t be as easy in Halo, even with improved vehicles, unless they included Ghosts and Choppers.

It wasn’t a Scorpion, and as I said, the players on the other team were one-shotting the spawns, even behind walls.
It was blatant cheating.

If by dead you mean no players and super long queue times (5+ minutes) it probably won’t die in that sense. But it will die in the sense that all the casuals will be gone if season 2 isn’t an absolute banger with tons of fixes, new content, better anti-cheat and optional cross play. People like me are just tired of half cocked money grab games that aren’t that fun.

I’m not a casual, but I’ll likely stop playing if things don’t improve.
Probably before season 2.