It is OBVIOUSLY way too early to say as 343 is hard at work finishing up the rest of these updates for H5 and working on HW2.
BUT In my opinion, 343 is doing the RIGHT thing when it comes to how they are delivering content. In this new world of micro-transactions, season passes, and deluxe editions, it’s nice to see 343 going against the grain and NOT splitting their community with outrageous expansions… I know the req system is not 100 percent perfect or loved by this community (i personally like it). But I think 343 did a fantastic job of implementing it. Guarenteed perm unlocks and special offers on some packs is a good., plus it is NOT a play to win scenario either… I have bought ONE pack ever, and I never felt cheated or at a disadvantage because someone else was willing to spend more $ on more reqs… Plus I mean come on guys, 343 is a business… Businesses make money…
The FREE maps, game modes, and reqs coming every month is just the cherry on top. It gives me a reason to come back to this game, as I have a brand new experience every time I do so.
Damn I love Halo
Do you guys think they will also have free content updates for the next installment in the Reclaimer Trilogy?
Given the req system and how obviously people put a lot of money into it I’m guessing halo 6 will have free stuff as well because I doubt Microsoft is going to allow 343 to drop micros and 343 is nice enough to make free updates because of that.
I know a lot of people might not agree with you on this, but I do. I like the fact that they listen to us and give us what people want. Sure, it wasn’t incorporated at the beginning, but they care about us and added everything we have asked for. Plus, i love getting new maps without buying a map pack. If they weren’t free, I certainly would not pay for a new map pack. The req system may not be best, but It really got me hooked on unlocking everything and makes me keep playing halo.
I would guess that they will. The reasons they’ve moved to this set-up will remain in Halo 6 (not wanting to split the community with paid content updates), and I think they see the success of that model. It seems sustainable in the long run, and the paid req packs look like they’ve more than replaced the revenue of paid DLC packs. I expect they’ll keep it this way in H6. Returning to the old method would be legitimate regression.
Im hoping they will continue the free updates, a create a revamped REQ system that works similar to the Reach Customization (being that you unlock Credits, or in H6 case, REQ points which you can then spend on permanent unlocks . 343 could make RP a Microtransaction for the money and have packs for Power Weapons, etc)
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> Im hoping they will continue the free updates, a create a revamped REQ system that works similar to the Reach Customization (being that you unlock Credits, or in H6 case, REQ points which you can then spend on permanent unlocks . 343 could make RP a Microtransaction for the money and have packs for Power Weapons, etc)
I agree with your first part. 343I going against tradition and supplying free updates is very satisfying. I’m very glad 343 took this route.(343, please don’t follow the trend of season passes and all that total bull -Yoink-) However, I disagree that the req system was implemented well. I think they could have done something more creative with req items, rather than just burn cards similar to TFall. And choosing to include (very nearly) all cosmetics was a terrible idea. If they left out the legendary mythic cosmetics for commendation based awards, rank awards, achievement awards, etc, I would be much more happy with the req system. As far as the updates go, this is very much heavily debated among these forums. I take the stance that the way the req system was implemented is not justified with the updates we have received at this point. Had we received more meaningful content rather than req fillers, I would have found the existence of the req system to be justified. But that’s my stance, and it’s heavily debated whether or not the content we are receiving should have been available at launch. In regards to special offers, I have yet to see a reasonable req offer for people not spending money. So far the req packs we are offered for a limited time are upwards of 80,000 req points, which is a straight 10 hours of grinding WZA. I don’t think most people will play one game mode for nearly half their day. Not to mention the lack of gold req bundles for req points that offer the same “+3 free packs” offer. It’s pretty obvious that 343 doesn’t want people not buying the req packs at all times. Unless you spend real money, there just aren’t enough options when buying req packs.
Had Master Chief Collection not been a disaster, we would have some sort of paid DLC content. In my opinion, 343 fell into the hole with MCC, as it did not perform well, it didn’t give them a good launch platform for Halo 5 and had to go this route. Had that not happened, we would have seen some sort of paid DLC for sure.
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> Had Master Chief Collection not been a disaster, we would have some sort of paid DLC content. In my opinion, 343 fell into the hole with MCC, as it did not perform well, it didn’t give them a good launch platform for Halo 5 and had to go this route. Had that not happened, we would have seen some sort of paid DLC for sure.
Interesting hypothesis. Had the MCC been largely successful, their reputation wouldn’t have dwindled, and the halo fan base would be more willing to move to Halo 5, thus more players, thus the higher chance of people buying map packs. Yeah, that seems reasonable.
Well, if the next game releases with less content than Halo 3 again, then yes, most likely, they will use “Free Updates” to patch in content that we have been using since Halo 3. But honestly, if this is what free content is going to be like, I want my paid map packs back then. At least with map packs, most of the maps weren’t complete crap.
I’m not going to get into the argument about the updates containing content that we actually paid for with the base game, but I feel a couple of tings need to be said.
Halo 5 launched with insufficient content, expected not of other AAA games, but of Halo itself. The game modes we have been getting, rather slowly I might add, have been in other games at launch. The only game modes I expect to see in updates to Halo 6 are funky gametypes, like Griffball, Race, Ricochet, that sort of thing. I say this because gametypes like Infection, KotH and Oddball should already be in the game.
With that out of the way, I quite like the idea of monthly updates containing maps and armour and such.
If it was in my hands, I would have 12 monthly updates planned to support Halo 6 over it’s post-launch year, with new maps and whatever other goodies that would be part of the game.
One year after launch there would be a Campaign expansion that would be paid DLC, but it would also come with other goodies that wouldn’t be avalable in the free updates.
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The problem I have with how H5 has been down is it is SORELY LACKING in content. I specifically mean maps. Warzone should have 8 maps by now. BTB should have nice quality maps thaat are not done in forge. The game should have more gametypes such as Action Sack. I would rather straight up pay for DLC if IF it means getting a LOT of quality maps and gametypes.
I’ll take free over paid dlc/updates any day. The issue with h5s free updates are they’re not quality enough to many people. I agree, I like that it’s free, but one or two maps and maybe a new gametype here and there -Yoinking!- blows IMO. Then there’s the minor things: weapon buffs, UI update, rworking a few maps, they just aren’t big enough IMO to think that this stuff is worth me being excited for.
I prefer this new system over the old system. The only thing that could have been better is releasing more content at launch (And giving us a better campaign). If Halo 6 improves upon what Halo 5 has trail blazed they will do well. Still, I think we have a few years until they release the next game.
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> I’m not going to get into the argument about the updates containing content that we actually paid for with the base game, but I feel a couple of tings need to be said.
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> Halo 5 launched with insufficient content, expected not of other AAA games, but of Halo itself. The game modes we have been getting, rather slowly I might add, have been in other games at launch. The only game modes I expect to see in updates to Halo 6 are funky gametypes, like Griffball, Race, Ricochet, that sort of thing. I say this because gametypes like Infection, KotH and Oddball should already be in the game.
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> With that out of the way, I quite like the idea of monthly updates containing maps and armour and such.
> If it was in my hands, I would have 12 monthly updates planned to support Halo 6 over it’s post-launch year, with new maps and whatever other goodies that would be part of the game.
> One year after launch there would be a Campaign expansion that would be paid DLC, but it would also come with other goodies that wouldn’t be avalable in the free updates.