Why Would Anyone Ever Sanction Helioskrill?

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I am not speaking of this on the basis of the UNSC, but rather of the Sangheili.

There are more reasons than not for the Helioskrill armor (an, in some sense, the various Elite-provided armament upgrades in Halo 5) to have never happened. Ranging from the petty quibbles like basic racism between the two species in question, to concerns like ONI’s archetypical, sectarian cloak-and-dagger shenanigans. But I’d like to focus the discussion on one particular facet of this.

It is an immense strategic error of mind-boggling proportions— about as inadvisable a decision as: giving your mortal enemy a gun with which to shoot you, after having just robbed them and pissed on their mother’s grave.

Even assuming that the artisan in-question only did it for the sake of testing their own skill and friendly competition, who (among the Elites) allowed it to happen? Which Kaidon or guild-master approved of it and let it go forward? Was there no vetting process or deliberation? None is mentioned, at any rate, and I believe that if any discussion had occurred: Helioskrill would have been cancelled in its entirety.

Let’s just take a step back and examine all of this on a macro-level. The average Elite only knows about Spartans in so far as their feats during the Human-Covenant War, where Spartans were dubbed “Demons”, given that Spartans were (as a demographic) likely the single most common loss of Elite lives. Though “Demon” is a term of mild respect, it is still an insult.
Now, well after the war in which billions died and the entire government supporting the Elites collapsed: the UNSC has hundreds of Spartans— far more than at any point previously. And all of those Spartans are on Infinity, a nigh-unstoppable dreadnought, in possession of more plot-armor than it does total surface-area.

It absolutely boggles my mind that the Sangheili as a whole, or at least the Swords of Sanghelios, don’t see Infinity and the Spartan-IVs as an existential threat to them. So why in the name of everything a man can hold holy, would anyone ever allow some random drongo to give trade-secrets and technological advancements to the UNSC?! Nevermind the blueprints for armor to be worn by the very same entities that pose the largest threat to them! This is, to be honest, completely asinine on its face!

Now granted, there are many reasons that this could have happened…

  1. No one bothered to try and stop it, or no one cared enough to even pay attention, when the aforementioned artisan started handing over valuable materiel.
  2. The entire thing is an endeavor to appease the UNSC and show undue good faith, due to the Elites (apparently) being in a position of weakness.
  3. The Elites believe themselves to be strong enough (or at least the UNSC/Spartans weak enough) that giving over valuable technology is considered no great loss or of negligible risk.

Thoughts?

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> 2535419907644262;1:
> I am not speaking of this on the basis of the UNSC, but rather of the Sangheili.
>
> There are more reasons than not for the Helioskrill armor (an, in some sense, the various Elite-provided armament upgrades in Halo 5) to have never happened. Ranging from the petty quibbles like basic racism between the two species in question, to concerns like ONI’s archetypical, sectarian cloak-and-dagger shenanigans. But I’d like to focus the discussion on one particular facet of this.
>
> It is an immense strategic error of mind-boggling proportions— about as inadvisable a decision as: giving your mortal enemy a gun with which to shoot you, after having just robbed them and pissed on their mother’s grave.
>
> Even assuming that the artisan in-question only did it for the sake of testing their own skill and friendly competition, who (among the Elites) allowed it to happen? Which Kaidon or guild-master approved of it and let it go forward? Was there no vetting process or deliberation? None is mentioned, at any rate, and I believe that if any discussion had occurred: Helioskrill would have been cancelled in its entirety.
>
> Let’s just take a step back and examine all of this on a macro-level. The average Elite only knows about Spartans in so far as their feats during the Human-Covenant War, where Spartans were dubbed “Demons”, given that Spartans were (as a demographic) likely the single most common loss of Elite lives. Though “Demon” is a term of mild respect, it is still an insult.
> Now, well after the war in which billions died and the entire government supporting the Elites collapsed: the UNSC has hundreds of Spartans— far more than at any point previously. And all of those Spartans are on Infinity, a nigh-unstoppable dreadnought, in possession of more plot-armor than it does total surface-area.
>
> It absolutely boggles my mind that the Sangheili as a whole, or at least the Swords of Sanghelios, don’t see Infinity and the Spartan-IVs as an existential threat to them. So why in the name of everything a man can hold holy, would anyone ever allow some random drongo to give trade-secrets and technological advancements to the UNSC?! Nevermind the blueprints for armor to be worn by the very same entities that pose the largest threat to them! This is, to be honest, completely asinine on its face!
>
> Now granted, there are many reasons that this could have happened…
> 1) No one bothered to try and stop it, or no one cared enough to even pay attention, when the aforementioned artisan started handing over valuable materiel.
> 2) The entire thing is an endeavor to appease the UNSC and show undue good faith, due to the Elites (apparently) being in a position of weakness.
> 3) The Elites believe themselves to be strong enough (or at least the UNSC/Spartans weak enough) that giving over valuable technology is considered no great loss or of negligible risk.
>
> Thoughts?

Helioskill is a Good armor in Halo 5 but I prefer the Classic Mark VI

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> > 2535419907644262;1:
> > I am not speaking of this on the basis of the UNSC, but rather of the Sangheili.
> >
> > There are more reasons than not for the Helioskrill armor (an, in some sense, the various Elite-provided armament upgrades in Halo 5) to have never happened. Ranging from the petty quibbles like basic racism between the two species in question, to concerns like ONI’s archetypical, sectarian cloak-and-dagger shenanigans. But I’d like to focus the discussion on one particular facet of this.
> >
> > It is an immense strategic error of mind-boggling proportions— about as inadvisable a decision as: giving your mortal enemy a gun with which to shoot you, after having just robbed them and pissed on their mother’s grave.
> >
> > Even assuming that the artisan in-question only did it for the sake of testing their own skill and friendly competition, who (among the Elites) allowed it to happen? Which Kaidon or guild-master approved of it and let it go forward? Was there no vetting process or deliberation? None is mentioned, at any rate, and I believe that if any discussion had occurred: Helioskrill would have been cancelled in its entirety.
> >
> > Let’s just take a step back and examine all of this on a macro-level. The average Elite only knows about Spartans in so far as their feats during the Human-Covenant War, where Spartans were dubbed “Demons”, given that Spartans were (as a demographic) likely the single most common loss of Elite lives. Though “Demon” is a term of mild respect, it is still an insult.
> > Now, well after the war in which billions died and the entire government supporting the Elites collapsed: the UNSC has hundreds of Spartans— far more than at any point previously. And all of those Spartans are on Infinity, a nigh-unstoppable dreadnought, in possession of more plot-armor than it does total surface-area.
> >
> > It absolutely boggles my mind that the Sangheili as a whole, or at least the Swords of Sanghelios, don’t see Infinity and the Spartan-IVs as an existential threat to them. So why in the name of everything a man can hold holy, would anyone ever allow some random drongo to give trade-secrets and technological advancements to the UNSC?! Nevermind the blueprints for armor to be worn by the very same entities that pose the largest threat to them! This is, to be honest, completely asinine on its face!
> >
> > Now granted, there are many reasons that this could have happened…
> > 1) No one bothered to try and stop it, or no one cared enough to even pay attention, when the aforementioned artisan started handing over valuable materiel.
> > 2) The entire thing is an endeavor to appease the UNSC and show undue good faith, due to the Elites (apparently) being in a position of weakness.
> > 3) The Elites believe themselves to be strong enough (or at least the UNSC/Spartans weak enough) that giving over valuable technology is considered no great loss or of negligible risk.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Helioskill is a Good armor in Halo 5 but I prefer the Classic Mark VI

How remarkably irrelevant of you to say.

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> Who allowed it?

More than likely: Thel. He’s committed to stop all conflicts and reach a positive conclusion. His Sangheili are allied with Humanity, and since he’s a Kaidon, he definitely could have had an artisan from the continent of Vadam to craft an armor for the Spartans. So far, the UNSC helped him in moments of need, and he’s paid them back at least once (allowing Osiris to land on Sanghelios, which was a highly controversial idea for the Sangheili) (following game examples. Unaware of such events in comics or books). Helioskrill could be one of those.
Then there’s also the description of the armor.

> The HELIOSKRILL is a work of art crafted by a Sangheili prodigy inspired to test her skill against the best that humanity could muster.

And there’s more: UNSC weapons being used by Sangheili. Usually, a Sangheili disregards them, but Thel don’t has any problem and has encouraged his troops to use them. One example is the DMR with the Hybrid Sight, which has the following description:

> Improvised configuration used by Swords of Sanghelios warriors on joint patrols.

Same thing with the Hybrid SMG:

> Personal defense weapon configuration used by Sangheili liaison teams.

Adding in a bit more food for thought: the Sangheili may not mind much because they know they’ve had their technology recovered, studied and even used in anyway by Humans. Such example is the portable Kig-Yar shield, reverse-engineered to serve as the Spartans’ personal shield.

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Probably some splinter group that’s playing both sides. Throughout history there are always those who seek to profit from other people’s wars. Just look at the elite mercenaries, fighting for the Banished. When times are hard, loyalty and cultural ideals are often cast aside for personal gain.