Why won't 343 listen?

Games Other Halo
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I can’t type halo 4 into google, or read anything about it, without seeing hardcore halo fans beg and plead for an actual halo style ranked system (you’d think in a halo game, this wouldn’t need begging). If I may, is this not what made halo popular all these years? Halo 1, people brought xbox to lans JUST to play competitively, for bragging rights, people played 2, and 3 for RANKED, for a score, to be good, and its addictive…so much so it worked for about a decade.

Now we are moving toward the COD mode of play, play, play, more kills, more xp, more loot, more xp, .25 k/d ratio, who cares, more xp. This works well for a game that has a BUILT IN 1-2 YEAR LIFESPAN. COD has a planned releases, 2 companies constantly working on them, so when you max out your xp on one, they release the next, and so on and so on. I don’t need to explain why halo need this system, and why halo 3 kicked -Yoink- for so long, and halo reach sucked, and no one played it, check the numbers 343.

If you want 6 months of tons of people playing, then all of them selling it to gamestop when COD 45 comes out, you’re on the right track. The real question is, why not both? When you have tens of thousands of fans begging, why not put it in? Do they think ranked play will take away from the xp grinding players/servers? All the halos had ranked, non ranked, team, etc, and always had people playing…IT STILL has people playing in halo 3 to this day.

I see the love 343 is putting into this for the fans, I see some respect being thrown our way, so why not throw us the biggest bone of all? If it is for the money, for an exec in a tower saying “cod xp style is the way we have to make shooters”, then fine, do booooth, please 343. Look at examples in the industry now, gameplay brings gamers back for years, no incessant grinding. I don’t know if its a moot point by now or not, but good lord 343, ranked, 1-50, something we can see, fight for, get clans together for and talk smack, cooperate, make flag runs ftw in the warthog! We will buy DLC maps and modes in ranked, and we will do this for YEARS (=$$ and props for 343). If the only community goal is the best gun painted gold blah blah blah, we will all surely camp in trees and grind it out for 6 months, then sell this game back and never think about it again…(=internet bashing for 343)

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Why would they listen to you and not me instead?
I say, no to a flawed 1-50 ranking system!

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I just Googled Halo4 and didn’t get the same results that you claim.

And you are correct, the industry isn’t the same as it was 10 years ago.

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  1. A LOT of people complained that halo MM wasn’t fast enough, so 343 made the gameplay faster

2) i refer to this about your COD reference

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wow like i haven’t heard that 2 million times before. first off the halo 2 and 3 ranking system was the easiest to cheat in it was not even funny dude. and last they are working on a ranking system you twit. its will be nothing like halo 2/3 (thank god) it will be more like reaches arena ranking and also with the credit system too. so just like reach’s in a way. so go cry some where else.

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> I can’t type halo 4 into google, or read anything about it, without seeing hardcore halo fans beg and plead for an actual halo style ranked system (you’d think in a halo game

I see very little of this these days.

As I said before, 343i can’t put everything the community wants into the game.

And you do realise there IS a competetive ranking system right?

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so say when halo 2 came out its ranking system was hidden but played the exact way you just couldn’t see the number go up or down would this have made halo 2 noncompetitive?

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You still get your 1-50

You just can’t see everyone else’s. Nor can they see yours.

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> > I can’t type halo 4 into google, or read anything about it, without seeing hardcore halo fans beg and plead for an actual halo style ranked system (you’d think in a halo game
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> I see very little of this these days.
>
> <mark>As I said before, 343i can’t put everything the community wants into the game.</mark>
> And you do realise there IS a competetive ranking system right?

agreed and if they did the game would probably suck

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Let’s see what 343i have done in response to people’s requests:

  • brought back the BR

  • improved jump height to Halo 3s

  • improved player speed so that strafing will again be effective

  • brought back bleedthrough

  • nerfed banshee’s evade

  • nerfed grenades

  • brought back some from of a skill based ranking system

343i is not listening? Seriously?!

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Its impossible to please everyone.
Especially if a majority of the people complaining want Halo to go in the opposite direction of the gaming market.

People will always complain, you can’t act as if its new for Halo 4. All Halo games, especially Halo 2, have had a large amount of hate towards them prior to release.

Keep in mind that the market has changed quite drastically in the last few years. Now there are tons of big-name shooters in the competition, something that wasn’t a huge problem in Halo’s original time. The gaming market has also shifted focus… class-based shooters are the thing now. Personal customization. Unless Halo is to be left behind, it has to shift focus too.

You act as if the ranking system is what makes Halo, Halo. That is very much wrong by a majority of the community.

343i has brought many classics back, and are making a big effort to balance everything for the launch of the next decade of Halo.
Believe it or not, Halo 4 is Halo. A new Halo, but Halo nonetheless.

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Oh God…

NOT ANOTHER ONE

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> blah blah blah blah blah blah Halo is turning into COD blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah/blah blah, blah blah, blah blah. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah-blah blah blah. COD blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.

This is what I think when I see that, “OH MY GOD! GUESS WHAT EVERYONE! I JUST FIGURED OUT THAT HALO HAS WEAPONS, AND COD HAS WEAPONS! HALO IS TURNING INTO COD!!!”

>.>

343i has been listening to the community, but pleasing every one, is like trying to guess the winning score of a ball game. There are those of us who don’t want to see the 1-50 ranking, and there’s people who want the 1-50 because they think it’s the best and only ranking system, and there can be no other ranking system as good as the 1-50, because they don’t like change, and they think they the 1-50 ranking system can’t be improved any more.

Just because 343i is doing things that you don’t agree with, does not mean they aren’t listening to the community, it just means they’re weighing their options, and trying to please the majority of the computer, and not the minority who wants Halo to say the same as back in the original trilogy.
Yeah to you, you may think you’re part of the majority, but in reality, you’re not, you could be the majority here in this forum board, or these forums, but you’re not part of the majority of the whole Halo community/player base, the majority of the whole Halo community/player base isn’t here on these forums, or Bungie’s forums, there are still a lot of people who are spread out on other sites, that may or may not share your thoughts on Halo 4, and even if they share some of your thoughts, not all of them will share all of your thoughts.

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> Oh God…
>
> NOT ANOTHER ONE

You might want to fix those italics… On topic: OP, you can’t please everyone, but 343i is trying to find the best balance to please everybody. Do I think they will do it well? We’ll just have to wait and see.

Edit: I can’t decide which is funnier: The CoD community thinking CoD is turning into Halo or the Halo community thinking Halo is turning into CoD.

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“ow we are moving toward the COD mode of play, play, play, more kills, more xp, more loot, more xp, .25 k/d ratio, who cares, more xp. This works well for a game that has a BUILT IN 1-2 YEAR LIFESPAN.”

this x 1 billion.

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Another kid saying Halo’s ruined. -.-

Trust me, if 343i listened to the forums, Halo 4 would just be Halo 3 with better graphics. Trust me, you have to keep updating the series, because otherwise, it ends up like Call of Duty: the same, boring–Yoink- old thing since game #2. Halo is changing and evolving with each new installation, and I’d say 343i is driving Halo in the right direction, by the looks of it. Still looks like Halo, still sounds like Halo, still seems to play like Halo.

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  1. Make the highest rank difficult to attain.
  2. You won’t have players getting to a 50 in an hour on a new account.
  3. Nobody will sell a 50 because they are difficult to attain; it will not be worth their time.
  4. Nobody will buy accounts because nobody is going to take all that time to get a 50, just to sell it.
  5. ???
  6. PROFIT!
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Not this topic again.

How about if we wait to PLAY THE RETAIL FINAL VERSION OF THE GAME and then we complain. How about that?

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People who have played the game say it’s nothing like COD and I quote:

> The arguments saying Halo = COD need to stop right away.

^^ This came from a guy who got to play Halo 4 for 3 hours.

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Armor Lock’s gone, pretty sure that was a huge demand.