Halo Infinite’s Thruster should really be Halo 5 momentum based, because it feels like a mix between Halo 5, but almost garbage like Halo 4 Thrusters. I hate how you boost, but then just abruptly stop, when the Grapple lets you fly wildly across the map. The Thruster has become maybe 3rd or 4th on the priority to pick up, after Grapple, Cloaking, and maybe Overshield. They did Thrusters dirty. I’d even go as far as saying Thrusters should be able to ground slam like in 5, since you only get 5 Thrusts to use anyway. It would at least make it almost as good as Grapple.
If fast and furious went from Tokyo drift to Fast and Furious (4), and practically killed and revive everyone, I think 343i can go from H5 to HI.
As I already said, that is nothing but a blatant lie.
ADS was never purely cosmetic in H5G, it adds huge spread buffs when aiming down the sights.
Removing ADS in H5G isn’t possible. There are a select few DLC weapons(!) that have similar animations to classic zoom, but they still have the spread buffs, and any other weapon you’d put on the map would still have that same mechanic from the vanilla game.
All you could do was make an extremely neutered knock-off of Classic Halo.
Totally gimped the thruster. Stoping abruptly in mid air has got to be the worse feeling I ever felt in halo. You used to be able to Sprint jump thrust and Sprint again in a fluid motion. Not it’s all choppy and stuttery
Oh so you mean the red reticle range you get when you zoom in JUST LIKE IN HALO INFINITE.
just stop bro you have no idea what your talking about. I ganretee you if you go into Halo 5 right now and compare it to infnites you’ll see it feels exactly the same. If anything it’s actually easier to use in halo infnite this making it more of a casual weapon.
ADS was purely cosmetic. Even 343 said so. It had no affect on spread. Let’s take the smg for example. There is a smg without the ads in halo 5 and guess what it funstions exactly the same. When you zoom in your spread tightens but that has nothing to do with ADS.
That’s also false.
Halo 4 was praised for its emotional storytelling but criticized for contradicting lore on countless occasions.
H5G’s multiplayer was only lauded for it’s return to equal starts, but the mechanics were mostly hated, from ADS, ground pound, Spartan charge, even clamber. New players complained about it being too sweaty while Pros hated it for being too noob-friendly (automatic callouts, etc.) All that on top of the predatory Pay2Win system that was Warzone.
No, I do not mean RRR, otherwise I would have said RRR. I mean spread.
Also, what Infinite does and does not have is complete irrelevant here, because you were claiming to be able to recreate Classic Halo inside H5G, and Infinite isn’t classic.
Yes, and they lied through their teeth, just like they did so many times before (and since).
That is exactly what I was already saying: Even the weapons without the ADS animation stil have the ADS functionality so it’s not possible to have the weapons work as in Classic Halo.
You’re literally proving my point while contradicting your own.
The one where the Halo community exists. What rock have you been living under? Halo 5 MP was widely disliked.
cough CoD:AW cough
Halo 5 literally took its movement from that game.
I love when people bring this up
First of all the “thrust” in that game is just a side step. It’s not a fully robust thruster pack on your back.
Not only that the side step in that game was static. Not fuild meaning that’s hall it could do was side step where as the thruster in halo 5 can be used in many applications. MANY.
On top of that the thruster pack was in halo 4. A game that came out before that call of duty.
Further more master Chief fights with the thruster pack throuout all the books and he loses them right before Halo CE.
SO . There is no question that made the thruster packs off of the lore. It also doesn’t function like any other game. Cealrly you never played the game because I. That call of duty you can’t thrust slide stalbize ground pound.
Maybe you weren’t in the full btb lobbies happening every night. Sad some people didn’t play the game because of things they don’t know about. So much fun was to be had in forge and customs that’s where a lot f ok the people were
Halo 5 was the most polarizing game in the series. They didn’t wanna do anything from Halo 5.
I get why people liked the MP but I hate it. I don’t like all the spartan abilities and the weapon balance is nonsense.
H5 was everything but fun. It was CoD arena and played nothing like Halo. It was a bad game that the majority of the Halo community hated. There’s a reason infinite plays more like traditional Halo.
Well halo 5 sucked so…
No it absolutely didnt, Ive seen youre later post mention they always had thruster in the lore wich is false. They the first generations of mjolier needed to have strap on thruster (wich were later integrated into the armor) for movement in zero gravity. those were way to weak to move the over a ton heavy armor under greavity. The Thrusters of 5 were written into lore to justefy them into gameplay (wich isnt that necessary since lore should never affect gameplay)
It mest with the core sandbox and changed Halo to a diffrent game. You may like it however that just wasnt Halo. I would argue youre point of it beeing one of the best additions if that means you have to sacrafice that much. We also saw that advanced movement overall wasnt going to stay in games as a mass trend. There are only few games that still use that and as I already stated, If it was really that good, then the player count wouldnt have dropped to a point where 343 had to go back and change it.
Not going to argue about that they are as useless as in Halo 5 right now. However they can buff them up, they couldnt really do that in 5 since the core gameplay loop with thrusting was allready faster than any vehicle, with them beeing utterly useless in warzone.
thats true. Halo 5 a six year old game has more content than Infinite does right now…
Halo Infinite and Halo 5 both at launch have an almost equal amount of options.
You forgot how much has been added over time and compare a game at the end of its life cycle to one at its beginning. At this point I con go play MCC because it has even more options then 5 or am I wrong?
No. There was never any flase advertising. Everything leading up to the story was outside of the game. They mentioned this multiple times
You know what that fact that you threw that 90% in there I’m not ganna take you seriously. Everyone knows that Halo 4s story was liked and Halo 5s multiplayer was liked. There were far more reasons than the abilites of people leaving Halo. Like cut content and bad PR from 343. If you played all the halos during and after all the launches you’d know this.
At this point you are trolling, we know for a fact that they falsely advertised Halo 5, it is clear as hell and denying that is just odd, They 100% teased a hunt and fight in the story and we know how that went. It was a massive campaign with the biggest letdown possible, I get what they tried to do but the expectations set up just couldnt be made.
And then you go on about him not having an Idea, lets not get worked up here,
RRR is the sweet spot a weapon has defining its range, at that range you get a little help with aim assist.
ADS Changed weapon behaviour completely, like I allready stated they had to spped up everything because of the new movement mechanicks, either you had hit scan or really fast homing projectiles, wich you couldnt dodge, except with the thruster, it striped halos classic gameplay for a new one
the new one isnt bad, it was just not liked eneugh (because it wasnt a majority that liked it) to keep it.
RRR= helps hitting target in the perfect range
ADS= helps aiming AND Changes the gun behaviour to help track the oponnent.
thats what it should be, a tool to help you to close the gap, to get distance or to gat a bit faster to diffrent points. Its a abillity not a abillity system. If it were you had to do changes over the entire game (for just one equipment)
It shouldnt be fluid. This was the point, They didnt want to re create Halo 5 movement. They did it this way to have a tool for the sandbox and not a movement system. This whole thing is called Game Design. They made their decision for a reason. Its not worse than Halo 5, they wanted to do something diffrent.
the ability to dodge was allready in Halo Reach, The thruster was just another way to simulate a dodge. Those thruster have nothing to do with the movement System of halo 5. Halo 5 wasnt the first game with advanced movement, for example Titanfall was first, Halo did their own spin, thats it no innovation just a diffrent way to use an existing gameplay loop.
Thats false, he didnt lose them, neither did he fight with them in all books, those were just for zero gravity andeven then he didnt really use them for fighting, except the books that were written around the time of Halo 4 and 5, such stuff doesnt need to be in gameplay (lore shouldnt affect gameplay, thats dangerous in Game Development)
or because they just didnt like it, like the majority of people, like I said it fine to prefere Halo 5 gameplay. but there are reasons why players left and why 343 changed it back.
Alright. Let’s shut you down because you seem to think you know what your talking about
The books first Strike and fall of reach feature the thruster pack. He not only moves with them he also fights with them. This is fact. You never read the books if you don’t know this. He lost them sometime before Halo CE. And yes the game should be based on the lore. And if not it should be classic gameplay. Not what infnite is. End of story
All advanced movement games as you call it failed to do anything meaningful. The call of duty that everyone loves to compare Halo 5 to doesn’t even have abilites that resemble anything of what Halo 5 is. Destiney just has power moves. Do eternal is pretty close to what Halo 5 is. Either way there is no thruster system inANY game that funstions they way the thruster did in halo 5. You can name any game. They all pale in comparison.
Yes. It did change the game but it didn’t SACRFICE anything. It added on to it
Thrust sliding which is one of the fastest moves wasn’t as fast as a warthog. If anything your trolling because you never played Halo 5. If you did you’d know that it actually had great vehicles and never heard complaints about them
Actually on launch Halo 5 had breakout. It had warzone and it had more weapons PLUS THE CLASSIC ONES ON LAUNCH. Like where the carbine bro?
And finally it had more custom game options on launch. Farrrrr more. So again you are wrong
Bro in halo ifinite everything is brain dead. The br is extremly easy to use. The Halo 5 pistol and thrusters actually took skill because you had to think about where you were shooting instead of just holding straight like you do ininfite
All the rest of your comments are just dribble. Pick up the Halo books and actuay read them instead of being a fan boy for this new gamem you are absolutely wrong on every front here
oof. You played yourself the moment you said it wasnt falsely advertised.
It wasn’t those ads were spepically in for outside in the game. They said so themselves but no one listened
I did. It’s a cheap gimmick to “Correct” story issues. It’s the same thing in comic books and now people who are upset about things like star wars think that just because they don’t like something that it should be relegated to “An alternate universe”. It’s dumb and it’s entitled. The story happened, good, bad or indifferent. You can’t go back in time, and an alternate universe is just lazy.