Why were plasma grenades nerfed to hell?

Seriously? I remember in other games, they were very destructive. Now you can throw one to the ground, step directly over it and not kill yourself.

> Seriously? I remember in other games, they were very destructive. Now you can throw one to the ground, step directly over it and not kill yourself.

I am glad, in fact. Because this is Halo 4 and if they were as powerful as before, then people would spawn with nukes that can stick to you. I am not attracted by this idea.

Also, good luck stepping over a sticky grenade. That does kill you.

> > Seriously? I remember in other games, they were very destructive. Now you can throw one to the ground, step directly over it and not kill yourself.
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> I am glad, in fact. Because this is Halo 4 and if they were as powerful as before, then people would spawn with nukes that can stick to you. I am not attracted by this idea.
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> Also, good luck stepping over a sticky grenade. That does kill you.

First buddy, I have tested it in forge. Secondly I’m sure 343 won’t be allowing us to spawn with them again and should be map pickup only. I hope in the next game they fix this and I’m sorry but having a grenade 3 feet from you and not hurt or even kill you is absurd.

Grenades need to act like grenades and not like firecrackers.

> First buddy, I have tested it in forge.

I just tested it on Forge.

I died.

Short answer- They weren’t.

> Short answer- They weren’t.

oh they very much were. its just that they had to be as they are loadout weapons now. put them on map and you kill 2 bad design issue birds with 1 stone.

Frags are overpowered.

Plasmas should deal half damage when Loadout maybe.

> > First buddy, I have tested it in forge.
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> I just tested it on Forge.
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> I died.

Because you stuck yourself.

> > Short answer- They weren’t.
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> oh they very much were. its just that they had to be as they are loadout weapons now. put them on map and you kill 2 bad design issue birds with 1 stone.

Thank you. I can agree because of the loadout system they added in was the cause to as a grenades being nerfed.

Frags are still not as strong as they should be.

> <mark>Frags are overpowered.</mark>
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> Plasmas should deal half damage when Loadout maybe.

Compared to the handheld Antimatter Bombs that existed in Reach and CE, the Halo 4 Frags aren’t even remotely overpowered… not to mention that the ‘perk nerf’ (when something is nerfed for the purpose of creating a perk for it.) and the Grenade Indicator make killing four people at once nearly impossible.

> Short answer- They weren’t.

Well, someone doesn’t remember the nuclear grenades in Reach.

> > Short answer- They weren’t.
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> Well, someone doesn’t remember the nuclear grenades in Reach.

I think they were worse in CE, especially how it was five seconds before they actually exploded, which gave the Elite that you just stuck plenty of time to run towards you.

> Because you stuck yourself.

You shouldn’t talk as if you were in that game with me.

I can upload a video to my fileshare so you can see that my boot didn’t pick it up the ground.

> > Short answer- They weren’t.
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> Well, someone doesn’t remember the nuclear grenades in Reach.

“nerfed to hell”. If anything, the ability to spawn with them constitutes a buff.

Yes, the nuclear grenades existed. And I hated them. So glad the grenades in Halo 4 are different.

Frags explode too quickly and bounce too much.

I’ve gotta say, frags and plasmas were at their best in Halo 3.

I recommend you use the explosives support upgrade during your games. It seems like it would suit you.

> > Because you stuck yourself.
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> You shouldn’t talk as if you were in that game with me.
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> I can upload a video to my fileshare so you can see that my boot didn’t pick it up the ground.

Feel free to do so, because I can clearly prove you wrong and I’m not stating I was in your game, I just know your wrong.

> I recommend you use the explosives support upgrade during your games. It seems like it would suit you.

It still doesn’t do it’s job, afterall I still feel like I’m throwing a firecracker compared to a real grenade.

Even if it’s for the sake of Halo 4 and how it was made. I hope the next game will return grenades to their rightful place and to compensate for people complaining, just give us 1 grenade alone so everyone doesn’t complain about people spamming the nade button.

> > > Because you stuck yourself.
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> > You shouldn’t talk as if you were in that game with me.
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> > I can upload a video to my fileshare so you can see that my boot didn’t pick it up the ground.
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> Feel free to do so, because I can clearly prove you wrong and I’m not stating I was in your game, I just know your wrong.

Then prove he’s wrong?