As cool as the Falcon was, it just does not fit in H5’s sandbox. Lets take the Falcon model from Reach’s multiplayer. Against any good banshee pilot is able to take out even a Phaeton Helios, but the Phaeton Helios has a boost so it can slide out of a situation. A falcon would not have that luxury. You can give it more armor, yes. You can give it a front turret, yes. But it has no way of evading Rockets and Hydras. Unless we have Counter measures like Battlefield does, the Falcon is going down and no one’s yelling timber. Extra armor only does so much.
Also, how do you think 343 would make the turret on the front? Like the Mantis turret, where you have to risk over heating a super inaccurate weapon to get a single kill? Or would it be like the standard turret?
What about the ONI variant? Would it even come out? Would the turret receive and upgrade? Or would be get 4 rockets that can lock on to any vehicle?
Maybe a Hannibal Variant? Would it even exsist? Would it behave like the Mantis? Or go like jjjjJJJJJJJ… BWAAAAAAAAAAAA like the Scorpion?
#343pls #BravoPls
This is centered around my post arguing why falcon would absolutely work. Well I am obligated to defend it no hard feelings. The falcon could have marines on the turrets to cover for Spartans not there. Yes a good falcon pilot could counter a banshee pilot as they have in reach. If it is under powered as everyone claims so is every vehicle in the game they can always be taken down. If the Spartans work with elites implement shield technology to make it more protected or armor. Yes it could be out maneuvered by a banshee so make it a lower req and easier to get as reqs that are better are unlocked later to specifically outplay the lower reqs and force competition. It could also act as a transport vehicle much faster than any neon green hog and clearing bases with your gunners. Do not ask for less. If a lot of people want a thing add it. You don’t have to ever touch it but just throw us a bone and make us happy.
Good points. But what are the chances of 343 actually making a Falcon with Marines on the turrets?
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> Good points. But what are the chances of 343 actually making a Falcon with Marines on the turrets?
A Sword Falcon that shoots needles and has extra armor and sheilds.
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> If it is under powered as everyone claim so is every vehicle in the game they can always be taken down. If the Spartans work with elites implement shield technology to make it more protected or armor.
This is what I was thinking too. If they can make a sword warthog from working with elites, I’m sure they could come up with something to improve the falcon
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> Good points. But what are the chances of 343 actually making a Falcon with Marines on the turrets?
Thank you I appreciate it, but I believe there is always a possibility for these ideas and I hold out much hope. This may not ever pertain to Halo 5. I just want to see a Human vehicle to change it up a bit, I think it would be really cool to see them and I loved them in 3 and reach. You never know if they will eventually take a look at the forums and decide to buff it a bit with some of the fan’s ideas. That is why I am trying to get the word out there so people would be able to see that it is a good idea and marines could see some more use than they already get. As I have said before: Never ask for less when you know a game has unbelievable amounts of potential.
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> This is centered around my post arguing why falcon would absolutely work. Well I am obligated to defend it no hard feelings. The falcon could have marines on the turrets to cover for Spartans not there. Yes a good falcon pilot could counter a banshee pilot as they have in reach. If it is under powered as everyone claims so is every vehicle in the game they can always be taken down. If the Spartans work with elites implement shield technology to make it more protected or armor. Yes it could be out maneuvered by a banshee so make it a lower req and easier to get as reqs that are better are unlocked later to specifically outplay the lower reqs and force competition. It could also act as a transport vehicle much faster than any neon green hog and clearing bases with your gunners. Do not ask for less. If a lot of people want a thing add it. You don’t have to ever touch it but just throw us a bone and make us happy.
The main issue with a falcon is that for it to be useful it requires 3 people. Guaranteeing someone a triple kill. Giving people ai controlled weapons won’t sit well with a lot of people, as they will either be too good or too weak to a lot of people. The falcon was a weak vehicle in reach. The hornet was better. I want to know what this AV-49 thing mentioned in the stinger description is.
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> As cool as the Falcon was, it just does not fit in H5’s sandbox. Lets take the Falcon model from Reach’s multiplayer. Against any good banshee pilot is able to take out even a Phaeton Helios, but the Phaeton Helios has a boost so it can slide out of a situation. A falcon would not have that luxury. You can give it more armor, yes. You can give it a front turret, yes. But it has no way of evading Rockets and Hydras. Unless we have Counter measures like Battlefield does, the Falcon is going down and no one’s yelling timber. Extra armor only does so much.
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> Also, how do you think 343 would make the turret on the front? Like the Mantis turret, where you have to risk over heating a super inaccurate weapon to get a single kill? Or would it be like the standard turret?
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> What about the ONI variant? Would it even come out? Would the turret receive and upgrade? Or would be get 4 rockets that can lock on to any vehicle?
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> Maybe a Hannibal Variant? Would it even exsist? Would it behave like the Mantis? Or go like jjjjJJJJJJJ… BWAAAAAAAAAAAA like the Scorpion?
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> #343pls #BravoPls
Nothing says it has to be the exact Reach copy. Oh, and any thing can be taken down with skill.
All it takes is some imagination.
Front turret (accurate, the Mantis gun is horrible)
Flare ability to evade lock ons (One variant of the Falcon)
Reflective armor to provide bonus armor against lasers (Another variant of the Falcon)
Front boost ability like that of a Wraith
There are many possibilities of balancing and making the Falcon a viable vehicle.
I highly doubt this’ll ever happen. 99.9% chance that it won’t. Even in the story canon, “the falcon model is no longer in service,” And we basically already missed the mark, because the Memories of Reach update already came out. But in any case, I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that 343 added in the Phaeton. I mean I could see how the Falcon could work in this game, (the Hornet would probably work better in 343’s favor) and I also see why we need it because the only 3 or more man vehicle is the Warthog, which the scout version of should have had at least an extra seat. I’d ask for a multi-man flying vehicle. But I also see the slightly unjust reason for getting rid of such vehicles; because 343 wants Halo to be different, more like COD, and because they need it to be more arena-like, on foot, and simple, so they had to scrap away a lot of Bungie’s old stuff, like the Chopper, the Prowler, the Falcon, the Revenant, and the Hornet.
The falcon and all other unsc air unit do fit, stop tryin to be some mlg wannabe analysts
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> The falcon and all other unsc air unit do fit, stop tryin to be some mlg wannabe analysts
No it doesnt. It is slow and needs extra people to function, guaranteeing a multi kill when it is take down by a spartan laser. It would have to be a level 4 REQ, to not automatically be taken out by spartan lasers, or someone who waits thirty seconds for the banshee. Even at level 4 it has to deal with railguns which could do a good amount of damage. It doesnt fit in the sandbox, and it doesnt fit lore wise. Where would it fit.
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> i highly doubt this’ll ever happen. 99.9% chance that it won’t. Even in the story canon, “the falcon model is no longer in service,” And we basically already missed the mark, because the Memories of Reach update already came out. But in any case, I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that 343 added in the Phaeton. I mean I could see how the Falcon could work in this game, (the Hornet would probably work better in 343’s favor) and I also see why we need it, because; they got rid of the feature where you could ride on the side of a tank a long time ago; and the only 3 or more man vehicle is the Warthog, which the scout version of should have had at least an extra seat. I’d ask for a multi-man flying vehicle. But I also see the slightly unjust reason for getting rid of such vehicles; because 343 wants Halo to be different, more like COD, and because they need it to be more arena-like, on foot, and simple they had to scrap away a lot of Bungie’s old stuff, like the Chopper, the Prowler, the Falcon, the Revenant, and the Hornet.
Noone wants halo to be like cod well other than you. Have you seen the infinite warfare trailer? Halo timeline cod is horrible for the community. Halo is its own thing. Unique vehicles are needed.
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> > The falcon and all other unsc air unit do fit, stop tryin to be some mlg wannabe analysts
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> No it doesnt. It is slow and needs extra people to function, guaranteeing a multi kill when it is take down by a spartan laser. It would have to be a level 4 REQ, to not automatically be taken out by spartan lasers, or someone who waits thirty seconds for the banshee. Even at level 4 it has to deal with railguns which could do a good amount of damage. It doesnt fit in the sandbox, and it doesnt fit lore wise. Where would it fit.
I have explained why these can be easily countered and add making the jets boost on to my list much like that of the phaeton. I have also already explained that it does not have to be the best and most unbeatable vehicle ever but it just needs to be a lower req level. It is also very usefull for transporting players quickly or getting around obstacles. You do not have to love this vehicle but many others do.
The Falcon can have a “boost” or something similar to the Phaeton. Maybe that will work 
These posts just never stop hahaha. I wrote a thread a month or 2 ago about how to effectively implement the falcon into the halo 5 sandbox if you’d like me to dig it up?
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> These posts just never stop hahaha. I wrote a thread a month or 2 ago about how to effectively implement the falcon into the halo 5 sandbox if you’d like me to dig it up?
I never saw it so yes please 
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> Was probably a bit word heavy, it didn’t warrant a great response. At the end of the day I am pro UNSC air vehicle(s). But I do love the falcon.
Thank you, it is difficult to be one of the few people who care to defend trying to add cool things into halo 5. Is it a sin to want more from an experiance? In my opinion the hornet would be the next best thing. Even with mods such as a turbo on the jets to be able to evade and go up or sideways quickly. This prevents the opposed to have to look for something better than “It would get shot down”.
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> > Was probably a bit word heavy, it didn’t warrant a great response. At the end of the day I am pro UNSC air vehicle(s). But I do love the falcon.
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> Thank you, it is difficult to be one of the few people who care to defend trying to add cool things into halo 5. Is it a sin to want more from an experiance? In my opinion the hornet would be the next best thing. Even with mods such as a turbo on the jets to be able to evade and go up or sideways quickly. This prevents the opposed to have to look for something better than “It would get shot down”.
I honestly do think the hornet is more suitable to the sandbox, the falcon is a flying warthog without upgrades. It needs increased damage capability unless it were to be more of a tank unit.