As of right now i believe it’s all just speculation until 343 tells us why. Most likely the treaty was either broken or it is a small group formed who didn’t want to ally with humans… but who knows.
ONI tells the public that Dr. Halsey is dead and places her under arrest. ONI gives rogue elites UNSC weapons.
Anyone else think that it’s a possibility that ONI may have been ‘hijacked’ by an external organisation??? (I could say covenant but I don’t think it is)
ONI wanted to mess up Sanghelios, make them fight against each other.
Meanwhile, the Sangheili were mad, some wanted to fight the humans, others wanted a peace treaty.
I think it’s a Covenant fleet that got stuck at/around Requiem before the war was over. There was a mention of the possibility of there being planets where UNSC and Covenant forces are still fighting each-other because they don’t know the war is over in the end of Glasslands and in a purely speculative old article from which 343i didn’t debunk anything (and they were right thus far, about Covies returning at least). Also, it seems like the only possibility that isn’t too obvious. If there is a reason that they are there and that they are fighting John that has some connection to the overall plot and to Requiem, than their part in the game may not feel tacked on for the sake of it.
> They had, Tacoooos and we wanted some …
So it was not the Tacos ?
> ONI tells the public that Dr. Halsey is dead and places her under arrest. ONI gives rogue elites UNSC weapons.
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> Anyone else think that it’s a possibility that ONI may have been ‘hijacked’ by an external organisation??? (I could say covenant but I don’t think it is)
I don’t think any human organization would have the resources to blackmail ONI into triggering a Human-Elite war and then survive that same war. Any habitable planets within reach of human vessels would be known to the UNSC and hence to ONI, and I don’t think that any private corporation could amass the resources and funds needed for terraforming during wartime – certainly not without catching ONI’s attention.
Incredibly awful writing seems more likely IMO.
> ONI tells the public that Dr. Halsey is dead and places her under arrest. ONI gives rogue elites UNSC weapons.
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> Anyone else think that it’s a possibility that ONI may have been ‘hijacked’ by an external organisation??? (I could say covenant but I don’t think it is)
or its quite possible the Rebels assassinated all members of ONI, and took place as each one with a now double identity, and wanting the UNSC out of power, tried to get the Elites to turn on Humanity and crush the UNSC for them. Its a possibility… theres probobly better explenations, but its just one though.
> > ONI tells the public that Dr. Halsey is dead and places her under arrest. ONI gives rogue elites UNSC weapons.
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> > Anyone else think that it’s a possibility that ONI may have been ‘hijacked’ by an external organisation??? (I could say covenant but I don’t think it is)
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> I don’t think any human organization would have the resources to blackmail ONI into triggering a Human-Elite war and then survive that same war. Any habitable planets within reach of human vessels would be known to the UNSC and hence to ONI, and I don’t think that any private corporation could amass the resources and funds needed for terraforming during wartime – certainly not without catching ONI’s attention.
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> Incredibly awful writing seems more likely IMO.
Yeah that seems pretty unlikely.
> > > ONI tells the public that Dr. Halsey is dead and places her under arrest. ONI gives rogue elites UNSC weapons.
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> > > Anyone else think that it’s a possibility that ONI may have been ‘hijacked’ by an external organisation??? (I could say covenant but I don’t think it is)
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> > I don’t think any human organization would have the resources to blackmail ONI into triggering a Human-Elite war and then survive that same war. Any habitable planets within reach of human vessels would be known to the UNSC and hence to ONI, and I don’t think that any private corporation could amass the resources and funds needed for terraforming during wartime – certainly not without catching ONI’s attention.
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> > Incredibly awful writing seems more likely IMO.
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> Yeah that seems pretty unlikely.
but what if it wasnt Blackmail? what if it was murder?
I dont think these are covies
More likely Pirates
Its most likely 343 are just calling them covies so old players will recognize them better
SO ya
I say they are pirates
> I dont think these are covies
> More likely Pirates
> Its most likely 343 are just calling them covies so old players will recognize them better
> SO ya
> I say they are pirates
That’s what I was thinking,some might just not have got the memo that the war was over.
Their armor is stripped down so their obviously not very well off.
> > I dont think these are covies
> > More likely Pirates
> > Its most likely 343 are just calling them covies so old players will recognize them better
> > SO ya
> > I say they are pirates
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> That’s what I was thinking,some might <mark>just not have got the memo that the war was over</mark>.
They would’ve, every other ship and fleet did.
> > > I dont think these are covies
> > > More likely Pirates
> > > Its most likely 343 are just calling them covies so old players will recognize them better
> > > SO ya
> > > I say they are pirates
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> > That’s what I was thinking,some might <mark>just not have got the memo that the war was over</mark>.
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> They would’ve, every other ship and fleet did.
Well then pirates it is…argh
Want to reply to this that I wasn’t able to.
> Its been four years, whos to say we dont have our numbers fully restored?
So in four years, humanity has recovered over 20+ years worth of people and equipment killed and destroyed by the Covenant? Really?
> i mean we are well off enough to start a whole new spartan program and manufacture a lightweight Mjolnir armor system which <mark>im pretty sure wasnt cheap</mark>.
Hell no, but that doesn’t mean humanity would be safe if the Elites decided to attack Earth with everything they had.
> I dont think these are covies
> More likely Pirates
> Its most likely 343 are just calling them covies so old players will recognize them better
> SO ya
> I say they are pirates
Looking for human loot, and not fleeing when they find the strongest human in our history?
> > I dont think these are covies
> > More likely Pirates
> > Its most likely 343 are just calling them covies so old players will recognize them better
> > SO ya
> > I say they are pirates
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> Looking for human loot, and not fleeing when they find the strongest human in our history?
what if they know about the Spartan IV program, and assumed that Chief was another Spartan IV, not realising he was the legendary John-117. Especially since Chief was presumed crushed by the portal.
> > I dont think these are covies
> > More likely Pirates
> > Its most likely 343 are just calling them covies so old players will recognize them better
> > SO ya
> > I say they are pirates
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> That’s what I was thinking,some might just not have got the memo that the war was over.
> Their armor is stripped down so their obviously not very well off.
Theirs two scenarios I’m going to go with. I already mentioned the plausibility of certain elite teams not getting the memo. Two, the civil war that seems to be happening with the Elites with one faction still having great prejudice towards humanity.
> Want to reply to this that I wasn’t able to.
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> > Its been four years, whos to say we dont have our numbers fully restored?
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> So in four years, humanity has recovered over 20+ years worth of people and equipment killed and destroyed by the Covenant? Really?
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> > i mean we are well off enough to start a whole new spartan program and manufacture a lightweight Mjolnir armor system which <mark>im pretty sure wasnt cheap</mark>.
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> Hell no, but that doesn’t mean humanity would be safe if the Elites decided to attack Earth with everything they had.
not very threatening considering that everything they have is really not that much, humanity would easily wipe them out if it came to that. and again im sure they realize that as well. the majority of the elites strength came from the covy tech,they are not that technologically advanced as a race. they were actually about where were a hundred years ago.
what if the arbiter is the one that went back on the treaty? maybe some data was retreived linking ONI to some post war black ops attack on one of their ships, like a future gulf of tonkin.
> Who says it has? Nothing says these Elites are with the Arbiter.
Agreed,
Most likly the are mercinaries / pirates drifting through space, and come across the ship, and want to salvage it. Pitty for them the MC is inside.
I think Cheif comments in the game that “I thought we had a truce with the elites”. Cortana says something.
And also their armor is much different to that of Covenenat Elites we have been fighting.
But who knows, we will have to wait and see.