Why didnt they adjust the damage for all the weapons so they were more like their CE counterparts? Like have the MA37/ MA5A work like the MA5B? Or the DMR to work like a single shot Battle Rifle? Instead we now have an overpowered pistol. Whats the point of the AR now?
The AR is a bit more powerfull. (than usual)
Thank god now we dont have to be worrying about Crutched AR Noobs.
> Thank god now we dont have to be worrying about Crutched AR Noobs.
Im not a noob i fire in controlled burst and back up when using the Assault Rifle. Why is a Pistol more powerful then an Assault Rifle it doesn’t make sense?
> Why is a Pistol more powerful then an Assault Rifle it doesn’t make sense?
And thus we have come full circle. Welcome to the original weapon balance argument which lead to weaker pistols in 2,3, ODST, and Reach.
> > Why is a Pistol more powerful then an Assault Rifle it doesn’t make sense?
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> And thus we have come full circle. Welcome to the original weapon balance argument which lead to weaker pistols in 2,3, ODST, and Reach.
And is it really a bad thing that they are weaker? A pistol is meant for a quick head shot after you taken down an enemy’s shields. Its not meant to be a power weapon.
The only thing I don’t understand is why the hell there’s DMRs on Anniversary Classic games. It makes no sense. One reason is because it now sucks -Yoink- compared to the pistol, but the other, more important, reason is that they or the BR didn’t even exist.
> The only thing I don’t understand is why the hell there’s DMRs on Anniversary Classic games. It makes no sense. One reason is because it now sucks -Yoink!- compared to the pistol, but the other, more important, reason is that they or the BR didn’t even exist.
What about the Headlong Remake, that was from Halo 2, which had the BR.
> > > Why is a Pistol more powerful then an Assault Rifle it doesn’t make sense?
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> > And thus we have come full circle. Welcome to the original weapon balance argument which lead to weaker pistols in 2,3, ODST, and Reach.
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> And is it really a bad thing that they are weaker? A pistol is meant for a quick head shot after you taken down an enemy’s shields. Its not meant to be a power weapon.
People don’t seem to realise that the H2 pistol was NOT the replacement for the H1 pistol.
The entire reason the Battle Rifle was introduced was to replace the Pistol. In HCE, we had a pistol that behaved like a rifle, a rifle that behaved like an SMG, and nothing that behaved like a pistol.
AFTER some weapon rebalance, we have:
H2 BR = HCE Pistol
H2 SMG = HCE AR
H2 Pistol = New weapon.
All subsequent Halos had this kind of setup.
> Why didnt they adjust the damage for all the weapons so they were more like their CE counterparts? Like have the MA37/ MA5A work like the MA5B? Or the DMR to work like a single shot Battle Rifle? Instead we now have an overpowered pistol. Whats the point of the AR now?
the pistol was the only gun that had its damage re-worked because it is the only gun that CAN have its damage re-worked.
other guns would require title update numero dos.
> > Thank god now we dont have to be worrying about Crutched AR Noobs.
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> Im not a noob i fire in controlled burst and back up when using the Assault Rifle. Why is a Pistol more powerful then an Assault Rifle it doesn’t make sense?
Oh, oh OP… I am sorry you have misplaced your sense of self-judgment. I’ll go ahead and point out that by almost every factor you are most certainly a noob. I’m not trying to be mean or anything, but for you to deny that fact is something that cannot be taken lightly.
Someone with a 0.37 K/D has no right claiming anything else. To your defense, you seem to have hardly used the AR at all.
To answer your main question of “why is a pistol more powerful”, because this game was made to emulate Halo CE. If you even played that, I don’t think you would have the capacity to ask that question. If this game was made to emulate reality, sure, a AR-15 would be more lethal than a .45 in theory. I’m not some master arms expert, but none of that matters. this is not COD or BF, it’s halo. It’s how Halo worked.
For a while Bungie had catered to noobs making the AR powerful, armor abilities, horrid ranking system, etc. 343i is mostly indifferent. They said they would remake Halo, and they did. Simple as that, the problem that you’re having is “Halo” is VASTLY different than Halo Reach or Halo 3.
> > Why didnt they adjust the damage for all the weapons so they were more like their CE counterparts? Like have the MA37/ MA5A work like the MA5B? Or the DMR to work like a single shot Battle Rifle? Instead we now have an overpowered pistol. Whats the point of the AR now?
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> the pistol was the only gun that had its damage re-worked because it is the only gun that CAN have its damage re-worked.
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> other guns would require title update numero dos.
lolwut
The Pistol works like any other gun in the way that they can change the settings. They could make the DMR fully auto if they wanted.
> > > Thank god now we dont have to be worrying about Crutched AR Noobs.
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> > Im not a noob i fire in controlled burst and back up when using the Assault Rifle. Why is a Pistol more powerful then an Assault Rifle it doesn’t make sense?
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> Oh, oh OP… I am sorry you have misplaced your sense of self-judgment. I’ll go ahead and point out that by almost every factor you are most certainly a noob. I’m not trying to be mean or anything, but for you to deny that fact is something that cannot be taken lightly.
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> Someone with a 0.37 K/D has no right claiming anything else. To your defense, you seem to have hardly used the AR at all.
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> To answer your main question of “why is a pistol more powerful”, because this game was made to emulate Halo CE. If you even played that, I don’t think you would have the capacity to ask that question. If this game was made to emulate reality, sure, a AR-15 would be more lethal than a .45 in theory. I’m not some master arms expert, but none of that matters. this is not COD or BF, it’s halo. It’s how Halo worked.
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> For a while Bungie had catered to noobs making the AR powerful, armor abilities, horrid ranking system, etc. 343i is mostly indifferent. They said they would remake Halo, and they did. Simple as that, the problem that you’re having is “Halo” is VASTLY different than Halo Reach or Halo 3.
I know that the pistol was stronger in Halo 1, i played the game tons of times, im wondering does it have to be stronger? Atleast let other weapons besides power weapons put up a fight against the pistol. Otherwise you should just have a halo game where you only use a pistol. no other weapons. And btw i want to have fun in Halo, but of course no one even thinks about “oh, hey, lets show him the right way of playing halo” instead of just scoffing “lol, what a noob”. Btw i hate COD.
plus i always thought a noob was simply someone who betrays alot and acts like a gangsta. Newb woudl be a better term for me. i just need some help.
They made the pistol better since the pistol was the “golden gun” in Halo CE.
If they boosted DMR and all other weapons you would just get vanilla Reach again, DMR beats everything. I personally think it’s nice to get away from the “super weapon” DMR and try something else, a bit faster, more agile, a pistol.
Sure, a decent Assault Rifle would make a lot of sence (since you got one, for example) but Bungie seemed to hate automatics even though they gave us plenty (plasma rifle, repeater, needler, assault, smg etc) they all suck, majorly. Beatdown is always a better option then an assault, and any weapon is always a better option then an automatic. What ever “mid-long range marksman” weapon available, is always the best (DMR, BS, NR).
Balaced? Not at all!
Simple? Yes, all you need to learn is how to control 1 gun to be “good”, sure, it takes more skill then a n00btube but with enough trial and error anyone can learn to handle “the good gun” DMR/BR. If you try to use something else, like an AR, you’re wrong and should “repent from your sinful ways”.
This ain’t CoD, there you’ll use at least 3 guns. This ain’t BF, where maybe even 5 guns are usable (even automatics". This is no way near Homefront where you got 12 guns, all perfectly balanced (except m200, sniper which sucks), even dedicated servers, no lag and quitters. This is Halo, get that DMR/BR, get host, and win!
Hopefully 343i let’s the weapons in Halo 4 be a bit more balanced, even if it means less guns to choose from (quality over quantity). Let the pistol/AR be a good gun for cqc-mid range, let it be better then melee.
Make a mid-long DMR/BR that has higher damage but slower firering rate, making it bad at cqc-mid and not spammable. Make it less of “spam 1 gun like a CoD n00b” and more “learn to use all guns, at their intended range”. Make it a bit more difficult, but also rewarding, for real gamers who can handle more then 1 gun 