I’ve tried out various guns but have found that the DMR is easily the best in the game even on smaller maps. I don’t see the point other than for challenges to use any other gun.
Because I’m not obsessed with using the most powerful weapon like 90% of players. Battle Rifle for me please. Too many DMR tryhards.
The disadvantage of the DMR is its close range effectiveness. A BR gives more leeway close range and allows your to miss your first shot, but connect with two others. Also, the DMR will never hit through shields, it will only take them out making a follow up shot necessary. The BR, on the other hand, is capable of taking the shields out with one bullet, then connecting the other two shots un-shielded.
> The disadvantage of the DMR is its close range effectiveness. A BR gives more leeway close range and allows your to miss your first shot, but connect with two others. Also, the DMR will never hit through shields, it will only take them out making a follow up shot necessary. The BR, on the other hand, is capable of taking the shields out with one bullet, then connecting the other two shots un-shielded.
But it really doesn’t matter. Reason why Assault rifle is so hard to kill with is because you need to hit half the entire clip into someone. That would be easy if they weren’t moving, same with the BR. It takes 13 bullets to kill, and while that burst is going off, you need your reticle on the player longer than the DMR with its one pull of the trigger and its a hit or miss.
In close range engagements, its still more logical to go with the DMR over the Battle rifle. Maybe if the DMR has slow fire rate, or if BR went from 13 bullet kill to 12 (meaning if you hit EVERY burst than it would result in a 4 shot which is not easy to do, and would balance the guns out).
So b.c. people use a weapon that is clearly better than every other… they’re try-hards? mmmKay. I use the Light Rifle when the game turns into longe range encounters, Meltdown, and the DMR just about any other time. I see my friends using the BR and using it just fine. Again, it’s all up to what feels best to you.
I’m more surprised the Suppressor isn’t as garbage as I had thought.
Bleedthrough…
3 shot PP and 1 headshot BR=Kill
3 shot PP and 2 headshot DMR =kill.
Also if my wingman was using a DMR i would swap to my BR to assist him.
I use both on the same class though so i feel spoiled with choice!
The dmr is impressive, and I didn’t like it in reach, but carbine and boltshot are my go to guns, I beat out DMRs often enough, just not at extreme range
> The disadvantage of the DMR is its close range effectiveness. A BR gives more leeway close range and allows your to miss your first shot, but connect with two others. Also, the DMR will never hit through shields, it will only take them out making a follow up shot necessary. The BR, on the other hand, is capable of taking the shields out with one bullet, then connecting the other two shots un-shielded.
This is a great answer. Also, the AR is good in large close combat fights. I’ve got several double kills with it without reloading.
> Bleedthrough…
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> 3 shot PP and 1 headshot BR=Kill
> 3 shot PP and 2 headshot DMR =kill.
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> Also if my wingman was using a DMR i would swap to my BR to assist him.
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> I use both on the same class though so i feel spoiled with choice!
…That isn’t Bleedthrough. Bleedthrough is when someone has shields and your melee or bullets pass through the shield getting a kill/headshot when they still have some shield left.
In this game, bleedthrough only works for melee, DMR and BR don’t Bleedthrough, BUT the consecutive burst from the Battlerifle having 3 bullets can give the illusion.
Guy has sliver of shields left. You fire one burst from BR, 1 bullet hits shields, second takes down shields, third hits as headshot. It goes so fast it makes you think its bleedtrhough, but its not.
Simply because I’m playing a team game.
Maybe the DMR is the ‘best’ gun for when one person is shooting at one person in a strafe battle.
But when you have a team around you against a team, the likelihood that you are going to be the sole player shooting someone from full health to death is not very high. The Assault Rifle can easy finish people off at close range when you have fire support and the BR can do the same in a mid range scenario, both of them ‘in between’ shots from your supporting fire which might be a DMR.
Don’t forget all the struggling to put proper accurate shots down while taking damage. If you turn the corner and someone with an AR and you have a DMR, unless you manage to get a lucky headshot&melee combo you are probably going to fall prey to the hail of bullets ripping through your shields…
I like 'em all. Horses for courses.
I am finding the assult rifle to actually be better than the DMR and the BR. I just use the pistol for long range and when i am close enough i just destroy them with the assult rifle and win 90% of the time. I m racking 20-30 kills easy each game.
Because the covenant carbine is AWESOME!
> > Bleedthrough…
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> > 3 shot PP and 1 headshot BR=Kill
> > 3 shot PP and 2 headshot DMR =kill.
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> > Also if my wingman was using a DMR i would swap to my BR to assist him.
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> > I use both on the same class though so i feel spoiled with choice!
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> …That isn’t Bleedthrough. Bleedthrough is when someone has shields and your melee or bullets pass through the shield getting a kill/headshot when they still have some shield left.
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> In this game, bleedthrough only works for melee, DMR and BR don’t Bleedthrough, BUT the consecutive burst from the Battlerifle having 3 bullets can give the illusion.
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> Guy has sliver of shields left. You fire one burst from BR, 1 bullet hits shields, second takes down shields, third hits as headshot. It goes so fast it makes you think its bleedtrhough, but its not.
Thanks for pointing that out, i guess its not bleedthrough though it does show a way the BR is more useful than the DMR.
Also is it just me or is the BR so much better at slowing people down ? I get so frustrated when i see BR tracer hit me when i trying to get the -Yoink- outa there
Halo 4 is all about skill, not just the power or effectiveness of any given gun. Accuracy and head shots don’t come with the gun. Land headshots with any weapon and you will find its a style question. Skill + Gun = Elite.
I’m forcing myself to use the BR cause i want my arctic skin!
Assault Rifle for me any day, anywhere.
LIGHTRIFLE! It is a BR (three burst shot) at close range and then a DMR (single shot) at long range. It’s a 2fer.
I find that the DMR is best on maps like Complex but on Haven if I use a DMR I get destroyed by people using BRs. Everything in the game works best under certian circumstances you just gotta figure it out.
> Halo 4 is all about skill, not just the power or effectiveness of any given gun. Accuracy and head shots don’t come with the gun. Land headshots with any weapon and you will find its a style question. Skill + Gun = Elite.
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> I’m forcing myself to use the BR cause i want my arctic skin!
Its not still though, its weapon balance we are talking about.
In Halo 3, I am playing with some awful kid. He has rockets, I have spiker. If I get the kill on him with the spiker, it doesn’t mean the gun it good, it means I am better than him.
Likewise for precision weapons. I see people saying they use X gun because they still get kills. Problem is, you are probably facing weaker players, or there are other factors to take into consideration such as team mates.
Lets get into a situation where I am facing my doppelganger (mirrored version of me), I have DMR, he has BR. We are the exact same person so skill is the same. DMR is going to win many more encounters. Why? Because the DMR is Versatile is all situations, It has a higher rate of fire than the BR, the clip size is more lenient, bloom is almost non existent, etc.
Point is, just because I use the Carbine more often doesn’t mean there isn’t some obvious weapon balancing that needs to happen.
If there is a better player with the BR, the BR will win. It doesn’t really matter what gun, it’s up to the player’s skill. BR and DMR are pretty evenly matched.
> If there is a better player with the BR, the BR will win. It doesn’t really matter what gun, it’s up to the player’s skill. BR and DMR are pretty evenly matched.
Ragnahrok: One person is at base (next to the man cannon to the middle section) with a DMR, person with BR is on middle hill. Person with BR is better. DMR out ranges BR. BR Loses.
This is how the DMR should be used more effectively. Instead, its almost every encounter that the DMR is good in.