why there won't be playable elites

saw a big thread about elites in halo 5 and thought i would just put it out there that there will not be playable elites, unfortnately. i love elites to bits, i love playing as them, but with the new emphasis on e sports, i really dont see that happening. the way they named teams in halo 4 and now halo five, like the hawks or the eels or whatever, canonically the elites would not be there. as well as the start of game animations, that is unless they make the elites interact with the spartans differently, maybe more reserved. as well as this there is a large emphasis on human weapons, they only mentioned one alien weapon in the beta so far. they may be saving it but im skeptical

they got elites right in h2a, where they are bigger but play the same. id like to see them return, but witha focus on e sports, i really dont see it, as they are absent from this setting. you can argue it makes sense for the elites to maybe train with the spartans cause they buddy together now and stuff, but i just dont see them happening. who knows, we might be pleasantly surprised

There’s no reason why the Elites can’t return for nontraditional modes, and they have machinima value. Plus, with a large portion of the fanbase begging for them to return, 343 would be, quite frankly, stupid not to include them in some capacity.

I don’t think they will be in the competitive playlists as we can already tell from the beta footage but I’m just hoping we can at least get them in one playlist in mm. I might be asking too much but one can hope.

Well just look at any Halo game with Elites (besides Reach), like 1 out of every 50 people play as an Elites, and many think they give you a big disadvantage because of their large heads.

i guess if the way they played was actually different like in reach, they could appear in different modes. and i guess if you wanna play as them then more fool you, i wouldnt mind be a little more exposed if it meant i had the option. and yeah loads of people want them but its not like 343 havent made silly decisions recently…

343i Is dead set on the whole “War Games” and “E-Sports” stuff for some reason, they feel there’s no room for elites in spartan training programs even though elites are one of the biggest threats to spartans.

I don’t know about everyone else, but i for one don’t want halo associated with the Esports trend in anyway.

I can clearly say that 343I are likely going to shoot themselves in the foot again if they block out Elite’s from Multiplayer once more like they have done for Halo 4. People enjoy variety on what they want to play as, not be forced to just be one same species. Heck, why else does Halo 4 lack Machinima’s as is?

Why does this matter to people?

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> Why does this matter to people?

Because people enjoy Halo in different ways, and we enjoy having playable sangheili. Why do people care about sprint and armor abilities?

id like elites. they could thruster too. the H2 space elites and heritic elite. the had those packs elites could help spartans train due to storm faction they could use it

If 343 neglects elites again, they would be ignoring a large part of halo’s fanbase.

Canon multiplayer is a terrible excuse not to include them. No matter how much they stretch it, multiplayer isn’t and cannot be canon in any logical sense. They should just cut the bull and have us all being clones of master chief or elites killing each other like in every good Halo game ever. No more Spartan IVs or canon multiplayer or any of that garbage.

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> i guess if the way they played was actually different like in reach, they could appear in different modes. and i guess if you wanna play as them then more fool you, i wouldnt mind be a little more exposed if it meant i had the option. and yeah loads of people want them but its not like 343 havent made silly decisions recently…

No, none of that ‘elites are only in social playlists’ nonsense. They should be available anywhere and play the same as Spartans, like they did in Halo 3 and 2, the GOOD Halos.

they must return

I deeply hope Sangheili are playable in Halo 5, at least in custom games.

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> Why does this matter to people?

Dunno, why does armor customization matter to people? They want their appearance to stand out…

Give us fully customizable elites for multiplayer. With the arbiter returning I don’t see how 343 can not include elites.

Sprint is in because it’s a feature people expect in a Halo game and has featured in the last two games (we’re ignoring that it was optional in Reach)

If you ask me Elite Models then have even more right to be in the game.

> I know there has been a lot of discussion on this subject but I have seen a few key factors that signal the possible return of playable elites in multiplayer when the full game comes out (Cause its obvious that they won’t be in the Beta… maybe):
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> -New Elite designs in H2A
> -Arbiter’s presence and the addition of the Sword’s of Sanghelios group
> -343 seems to be following a similar path to Bungie in which Halo 1 and Halo 4 are spartan only, Halo 2 first introduced the elites and they were a carefully guarded secret and it makes senses that in Halo 5 they make a comeback.
> -It was mentioned that there would be more than one playable character in Campaign, so far Chief and Locke have been announced but Arbiter could be a co-op character just like Halo 3.
> -Matchmaking might most likely be Spartan only like Halo Reach but could include Elite only game types.
> -Elites can pretty much have the same abilities as spartans with just slight changes in animation.
> -Covenant weapons haven’t been fully revealed with exceptions of the energy sword and Prophet’s Bane
> -Prophet’s Bane was the very sword Arbiter used to kill Truth in Halo 3
> -The cinematic in H2A had revealed that the setting is most likely Sanghelios
> -343 had answered a lot of long time wishes with MCC and Ive seen a lot of people ask for elites again.

If elites do make a return as playable characters thatd be amazing but if they have the same exact abilities as Spartans it would be odd, of course theyd balance the health out and stuff but make the abilities different and think of it, ppl wont be limited on assassinations yeah more animating but still would be cool and also like someone said previously it gets boring only being a Spartan. and in the abilities Spartan would have their thruster packs and elites could have evade or something