Why The sprint kills halo threads are just opinion

So whenever i see any thread defending sprint there is always a onslaught of backlash upon the defender on why this person believes sprint kills halo and they bring in population drops stats and all this other info but do not seem to cite the source or prove it was an unbiased source.
But other then bringing in there stats these people fail to ask one question. and that is what is it about sprint that you like

and that gives a person to give them a reason and honestly the response is non arguable

If you ask a me that i will tell you sprint gives halo a faster pace feel for me. Is this by anyways wrong can you prove that the game does not feel faster to me can you step into my skin and play as me and tell me no you do not feel that way. The answer is no you cant. that is why i like sprint, and that is why i like it in halo just feels nicer, now to me halo 2 and halo 3 feel slow and boring since i played faster paced games and i like faster pace games. So to me halo classic was well outdated for me once i grew out of that era. now if you say Halo 2 is not outdated because people still play it, well im not saying halo 2 is outdated im saying halo 2 is outdated for me. that is two very different statements but it seems on these forums it gets misconstrued.

These forums are very biased since you will argue things you don’t agree on and say they ruin the game because in reality it does ruin the game FOR YOU. This doesn’t mean it ruins the game in general. Let us use the population drop after 4 months of release. if we use population as an example of favor of halo 4 then i would look like i hated halo 4, why because in December around Christmas i deployed to Afghanistan, for months so yea i stopped playing halo 4 but not because i didn’t like it, I just couldn’t play
the things i believe ruin a game is when its not working or there are those who hack the game and are invincible that ruins a game for me.

Here is something i want to ask all those who hate the spartan abilities ADS sprint etc. go prove to someone who likes these things why those said things ruin the game for them specifically. now go find someone who likes the color green and prove to them why the shade of green they like is not there favorite green. you cant truly say that this ruins the entire game if some small group of people still play it and seem to not mind the things you cant stand. if halo 4 sprint killed Halo then why is it that i can still play halo 4 and still choose to play it.
Personal preference man some people do not play the game the same way as you, i choose to not take a video game so serious. i also choose to not worry about things as fickle as split screen. i will not say that the removal of split screen is not important, because it may be important to some, but i will say i do not care if its there or not so long as my frame rate is awesome.

So the key thing is you can come at me with all your stats and stuff but until you prove to me that the game is not ruined for me then why should i agree with you that it ruins the game and vice versa.

I stopped arguing the sprint thing and i going to stop arguing many things because to me its just a never ending pointless circle. honestly winning a debate on pro anti sprint is like winning the who gets hit in the nuts first contest in the end you both truly aren’t winners.
The thing is there is going to continue to be threads on why this is why this happens and most of it is coincident, just like me deploying thus halo 4 dropped in one person playing. we go into these arguments thinking people play this game 24/7 and do not care for any other games out there but halo. but in reality add in kids jobs mortgages political issues government issues world issues natural disasters, media and social media and the amount of information and attention span most people have these days most video games today are not going to ever see the numbers the games in the past had.

These days no one is impressed by online gaming like they used to be its more of people get shocked if you don’t do online gaming its just so common that when you say wow a halo game i can play online it just becomes a well another video game someone plays for a bit then they drop it to go watch some reality tv show or whatever.

Now comes another point some people say well no one is in school but population dropped… dude i don’t play video games my entire vacation form things and most teens and adults go do other things these days then sitting on a couch and playing video games. and with YouTube and twitch most gamer’s are playing different games to make some side cash so they don’t just play halo or whatever.

we do things outside of video games mostly i see people on there freaking phones or going to the gym or actually socializing more most of the people who used to game non stop are now out and about doing other things and when they get home maybe they throw on a round of halo or maybe the go on Tinder lol. or spend hours on pint-rest, Facebook, or watching real housewives, when halo 2 came out or even halo 3 we didn.t have the stuff we have today we didn’t have i pads or a freaking app for everything. i mean you could go buy an xbox and videos games for hundreds of bucks or go buy a phone and download a millions free games to keep you happy.

Ok so try this as a study you place items in front of someone one is a phone with the top 10 most addictive games. computer with all the top social media things. 10 tvs all with some reality tv show or tv series on them. and even toss netflix in there with new episodes, now place some ads and product placement in there and some channels like the halo channel and twitch channel now throw in some free blu ray videos. and a plethora of movies and video games like over 200k games as an option now put Halo 3 in there. now the human brain will process all this and well then overwhelmed by the amount of options he can chose from its easy for the brain to lose interst in one thing when they can do millions of things with one device… yes i just described the xbox one and all the stuff on it. every time i turn it on i hit by product placement and other options what did the original xbox and give you … all you can do is play one game… xbox 360 gave slightly more options but it wasnt till a few years before halo 4 was released that it became more social and versatile with other things. now with the xbox one dudes the game isnt even the main focus anymore… now throw in some life demands and some socializing outside of games its no wonder population on video games drop we just have way more options practically thrown in our face to stay focused on one game for too long. plus now you can easily download a game halo 2 you had to walk to the store and get the game.

so along with personal preference is the overwhelming amount of crap we have to keep us occupied makes video game snot the main thing anymore.

There are many points in this thread so it may be hard to understand so just ask me for clarification before you respond with this thread is stupid because ill ask why is it stupid and if you say because it to much stuff to understand i will answer with why didn’t you ask me to explain specific stuff to you.

my brain hurt reading that first bit.
Let me get this straight. So some one saying halo need sprint because its in other games or because they like it being shown why halo doesnt need sprint for gameplay reasons is the victim because the people who dont like it dont have a reason to like sprint?

i dont like walking bare foot on glass. other people do. i dont bacause of what it does to my feet. so im the bad guy because i cant thing of a reason to enjoy walking bare foot on glass. ok i think im understanding.

didnt read all just skimmed the wall text. it mostly about needing illusions of speed and gimmicks.

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just answer this part of my post OP:
if you really stopped talking about sprint why the sprint thread?

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> my brain hurt reading that first bit.
> Let me get this straight. So some one saying halo need sprint because its in other games or because they like it being shown why halo doesnt need sprint for gameplay reasons is the victim because the people who dont like it dont have a reason to like sprint?
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> i dont like walking bare foot on glass. other people do. i dont bacause of what it does to my feet. so im the bad guy because i cant thing of a reason to enjoy walking bare foot on glass. ok i think im understanding.
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> if you really stopped talking about sprint why the sprint thread?

Its not a sprint thread it just has sprint in it since sprint is a controversial subject in a dumb video game. the main point though is what you think ruins a game may not ruin it for someone else so all these threads where people are saying no your wrong because that ruins the game is really not going anywhere its all opinions because no one truly can speak for majority and say yup this ruins the game outright. because theres always someone who well they either dont care dont mind or prefer it that way.

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> my brain hurt reading that first bit.
> Let me get this straight. So some one saying halo need sprint because its in other games or because they like it being shown why halo doesnt need sprint for gameplay reasons is the victim because the people who dont like it dont have a reason to like sprint?
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> i dont like walking bare foot on glass. other people do. i dont bacause of what it does to my feet. so im the bad guy because i cant thing of a reason to enjoy walking bare foot on glass. ok i think im understanding.
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> didnt read all just skimmed the wall text. it mostly about needing illusions of speed and gimmicks.
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> just answer this part of my post OP:
> if you really stopped talking about sprint why the sprint thread?

You skimmed it and i think thats what made it hard for you to understand you actually have to take the time to read it to understand it or else dont even comment really i read your entire post and understand your reasoning, i wasnt lazy and skimmed it then posted an opinion on it.

Jeesh, I’m not reading all that.

But whatever, I stopped caring about the debate. Pro-sprinters won the battle. Sprint is here to stay. I’m happy.

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> But whatever, I stopped caring about the debate. Pro-sprinters won the battle. Sprint is here to stay. I’m happy.

I will summarize the main point for your conveniences, what you say ruins the game may not be true because it doesn’t ruin the game for someone else it just isnt your favorable thing, and today the we are surrounded by a vast amount of options that video games suffered in forms of entertainment when given more options to choose form and the convenience of using them from the comfort of your Xbox one
I hope this clarifies it for you and i do appreciate you not placing a opinion on the entire thread by just breezing it.

You guys are going to like my next thread so be ready.

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> You skimmed it and i think thats what made it hard for you to understand you actually have to take the time to read it to understand it or else dont even comment really i read your entire post and understand your reasoning, i wasnt lazy and skimmed it then posted an opinion on it.

i dont read large post in general as in most cases you can convey your meaning in a paragraph or two.
ill agree with your other post about how one thing can add a level of fun to one person and not to another.

but since we are talking about a thread on sprint i just want it to be known that the reasons people didnt like it in reach and in h4 werent the same and are diffrent from those in h5.
the only over arching thing being the spacial placement of things.

personally if i had to decide if h5 would have sprint or not id have it even though i dont like it. there is an issue of consistency between the campain and mp. no sprint would break the game at this point since everything was made with it in mind.

my question to you: if it on you to decide would you make a no sprint playlist? this comes with maps designed around not being able to sprint. this would make it so that it would be a completely diffrent gameplay so we woulnt be playing the same game.

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> but since we are talking about a thread on sprint i just want it to be known that the reasons people didnt like it in reach and in h4 werent the same and are diffrent from those in h5.
> the only over arching thing being the spacial placement of things.
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> personally if i had to decide if h5 would have sprint or not id have it even though i dont like it. there is an issue of consistency between the campain and mp. no sprint would break the game at this point since everything was made with it in mind.
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> my question to you: if it on you to decide would you make a no sprint playlist? this comes with maps designed around not being able to sprint. this would make it so that it would be a completely diffrent gameplay so we woulnt be playing the same game.

I see no problem with that Advance Warfare provides a playlist that has no Exo suit movement though the levels are designed to be able to access most the same areas it is without the Exo movement and gives the classic style of game play. And if 343i was able to provide this then why not it would only attract more population towards the gamer’s who want the old style. as for where i would stand on it i probably wont play in that playlist since i do like sprint but maybe id go in to check it out but i wouldnt be against it. weather that will happen who knows. only time will tell. this ties into split screen in the sense that for all we know a year or two from now or sooner 343 could find a way to input split screen without compromising frame rate. only time can tell.

> I stopped arguing the sprint thing and i going to stop arguing many things because to me its just a never ending pointless circle.

you are your own undoing

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> But whatever, I stopped caring about the debate. Pro-sprinters won the battle. Sprint is here to stay. I’m happy.

zoom was the only one posting sprint threads there was no pro-sprint argument, it got buried in responses then either died or got locked.

what discussion does this thread bring? it’s simply another hate thread.

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> But whatever, I stopped caring about the debate. Pro-sprinters won the battle. Sprint is here to stay. I’m happy.

Ugh sprint. You lost the battle. Pro-sprint arguments were all really bad. But you won the war, because life isn’t fair.