Okay before you just flat say “no,” (I know how much Halo players seem to have a hard on for nerfing everything they don’t understand), consider my argument.
Ordinance should carry a higher meaning, something that is very powerful and would likely be ‘over-powered’ if everyone had it. I understand such weapons need to be regulated, but there are ways to regulate it that don’t restric gameplay to what weapons you can and can’t start out with. We already have the option of packages, such as Resupply and Firepower. The only perceivable problem to having ordinance as primary weapons is the Firepower package, but if you required a package in order to equip ordinance as a primary would fix this (Think about it, how dangerous long term is someone who starts with a rocket launcher and a pistol?).
That out of the way, let’s go into the LMG itself. To preface my points, I’d like to say that the moment I saw it confirmed in the latest video, I literally jumped out of my seat in celebration. Only to have my hopes of FINALLY being a support gunner in Halo being dashed by “It’s an ordinance weapon.” Tons of games have LMG’s as primary weapons, and the weapon is only as good as the person who weilds it. The LMG isn’t a power weapon, it’s a support gun, and if treated right it can create a very much needed dynamic to Halo gameplay.
Some things to think about:
-I’d be better off just using the turrets on the map as support guns if the SAW isn’t a primary.
-If you unlock weapons based on skill and dedication, then it is more likely the weapon won’t be spammed to every loadout.
-If you had the skill to fight someone with a turret in Halo Reach and Halo 3 using your primary, you can also fight someone just as easily, if not more easily, who has the SAW
-If the Light Rifle is a primary (Basically having the DMR and BR combined with no drawbacks), then the SAW sure as heck should be a primary.
Sorry for the long post, but 343 has done such a great job on Halo 4 that I’d hate for them to slip up now after they’ve introduced a weapon I’ve wanted since Halo CE.
At least you give a good reason for your opinion. It should stay as a power weapon though because it is really accurate for its high RoF. It’s almost hard to miss.
> At least you give a good reason for your opinion. It should stay as a power weapon though because it is really accurate for its high RoF. It’s almost hard to miss.
That’s exactly what real LMGs are like. The purpose of them is to keep enemies behind cover. It has two mags as far as I’ve been able to tell, and those won’t last very long anyways. At best, you could kill four people with it based on the VERY short gameplay we have seen in it. Compare that to how many you could kill in one life with a DMR or BR. It balances itself out by almost requiring you to use it as a support weapon.
We know absolutely nothing about the gun. We know it empties its magazine in 5 seconds but that’s it. Once we know its kill times, we can start debating whether it should be primary or ordnance.
> > At least you give a good reason for your opinion. It should stay as a power weapon though because it is really accurate for its high RoF. It’s almost hard to miss.
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> That’s exactly what real LMGs are like. The purpose of them is to keep enemies behind cover. It has two mags as far as I’ve been able to tell, and those won’t last very long anyways. At best, <mark>you could kill four people</mark> with it based on the VERY short gameplay we have seen in it. Compare that to how many you could kill in one life with a DMR or BR. It balances itself out by almost requiring you to use it as a support weapon.
Basically the reason why, it kills so quickly for Halo standards.
> We know absolutely nothing about the gun. We know it empties its magazine in 5 seconds but that’s it. Once we know its kill times, we can start debating whether it should be primary or ordnance.
I usually agree with taking more caution, but from what I’ve seen in the years I’ve spent dedicated to the Halo games is that fans always readily jump to calling any weapon overpowered, despite the fact that the weapons they cherish have and always will dominate multiplayer (I’m speaking about the BR and DMR). I’ll love Halo 4 if it’s half of what they’re making it out to be, and anything like the gameplay footage I’ve seen from RTX and E3. However, I hate that the mounting excitement of finally getting the type of weapon Halo has been long overdue for taken asunder by a simple, flat ‘Ordinance only’.
I love that they added it, but I’m afraid of not getting to use it as much as I would like to for the purpose I want it for.
> > > At least you give a good reason for your opinion. It should stay as a power weapon though because it is really accurate for its high RoF. It’s almost hard to miss.
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> > That’s exactly what real LMGs are like. The purpose of them is to keep enemies behind cover. It has two mags as far as I’ve been able to tell, and those won’t last very long anyways. At best, <mark>you could kill four people</mark> with it based on the VERY short gameplay we have seen in it. Compare that to how many you could kill in one life with a DMR or BR. It balances itself out by almost requiring you to use it as a support weapon.
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> Basically the reason why, it kills so quickly for Halo standards.
Four people between two magazines? That’s quick, but in the long run it’s four kills maximum. You won’t be getting many points with it even if it is a primary.
> > > > At least you give a good reason for your opinion. It should stay as a power weapon though because it is really accurate for its high RoF. It’s almost hard to miss.
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> > > That’s exactly what real LMGs are like. The purpose of them is to keep enemies behind cover. It has two mags as far as I’ve been able to tell, and those won’t last very long anyways. At best, <mark>you could kill four people</mark> with it based on the VERY short gameplay we have seen in it. Compare that to how many you could kill in one life with a DMR or BR. It balances itself out by almost requiring you to use it as a support weapon.
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> > Basically the reason why, it kills so quickly for Halo standards.
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> Four people between two magazines? That’s quick, but in the long run it’s four kills maximum. You won’t be getting many points with it even if it is a primary.
The magazine has 72 rounds, more than any gun has ever had in Halo. It would be more like four people with one magazine by the way. Its meant to be a game changer, not a weapon for domination.
I’m not exactly familiar with the strength and gameplay strategies concerning this gun, so I’ll leave it to 343 to decide ultimately, but from what I’ve seen, I’d leave it as a power weapon.
No, sorry I just don’t see this as a valid argument. Also, when you said “how dangerous would someone with a rocket launcher and a pistol be” you lost me. A rocket launcher can kill 4 people EASY, more if you get multikills. Then guess what you get 4 kills for every 1 death EASILY, and if you use all the Rocket ammo, you could just pick up someone else’s gun.
I can understand the appeal of being a support gunner, but the SAW seems to be a very powerful, and I am positive it will be the source of many spartan casualties, especially in close range. What you’re asking for is similar to asking for the shotgun to become a primary, which is just a bad idea.
> No, sorry I just don’t see this as a valid argument. Also, when you said “how dangerous would someone with a rocket launcher and a pistol be” you lost me. A rocket launcher can kill 4 people EASY, more if you get multikills. Then guess what you get 4 kills for every 1 death EASILY, and if you use all the Rocket ammo, you could just pick up someone else’s gun.
I’ve killed plenty of people who had a rocket launcher using the DMR or BR. Easily.