Why the Knights turn to Ash...

After listening to the new Sparkast, I think I finally understand why the Promethean Knights flake into ashes after you kill them and the crawlers and watchers don’t. They made it a point in the sparkast to make it clear that crawlers were purely non-biological and immune to the flood. Also from this, the Prometheans were suited to fight the flood. The watcher is a simple-yet-complex necessity as a “force multiplier” to use their own words. They are also non-biological. From what we’ve seen of the knights, they do seem to be at least partially biological. The combusting, from what I can tell, seems to be a defense mechanism to ensure that they do not become infected and thus become counter-productive. I know a lot of people were concerned with the importance of it and weather or not it was necessary so I just wanted to bring my own observations to their attention in case the little things didn’t quite click yet. :wink:

And all this could’ve been avoided if the Forerunners just made them non-organic too. I swear, the Forerunners have so many flaws in their tech. Must hire Imperial tech services.

This makes sense. I’m completely certain that the Flood will be in Halo 5 or 6.

Particle effects are easier on the processors than an entire glowing rag doll :stuck_out_tongue:

> This makes sense. I<mark>'m completely certain that the Flood will be in Halo 5 or 6.</mark>

With the Gravemind still alive, that is a strong possibility.

> Particle effects are easier on the processors than an entire glowing rag doll :stuck_out_tongue:

I think it looks sick

> > This makes sense. I<mark>'m completely certain that the Flood will be in Halo 5 or 6.</mark>
>
> With the Gravemind still alive, that is a strong possibility.

After 4 years with nothing to feed on?

> > > This makes sense. I<mark>'m completely certain that the Flood will be in Halo 5 or 6.</mark>
> >
> > With the Gravemind still alive, that is a strong possibility.
>
> After 4 years with nothing to feed on?

It wouldn’t be alive in the physical sense. Some of us believe the Gravemind is a consciousness, Ajw34307 speculates that it is located in slipspace where it’s powers would rival on the godly, that merely inhabits the Gravemind organism when it forms. After all, we see it was still alive after Chief blew up High Charity.

> And all this could’ve been avoided if the Forerunners just made them non-organic too. I swear, the Forerunners have so many flaws in their tech. Must hire Imperial tech services.

Just like how other races have flaws, The Empire: Stormtroopers wear helmets that have no perceptual vision, armour that doesn’t protect them and are terrible shooters. AT AT slow, heavily armoured, yet capable of being taken down by tying their long legs. Death Star: Has a massive Flaw a hole that goes directly to it’s core that can blow it up if hit and walkways above deep chasms that don’t have any rails.
Must i go on? Every race or organisation has tech with an Achilles Heel.

> > And all this could’ve been avoided if the Forerunners just made them non-organic too. I swear, the Forerunners have so many flaws in their tech. Must hire Imperial tech services.
>
> Just like how other races have flaws, The Empire: Stormtroopers wear helmets that have no perceptual vision, armour that doesn’t protect them and are terrible shooters. AT AT slow, heavily armoured, yet capable of being taken down by tying their long legs. Death Star: Has a massive Flaw a hole that goes directly to it’s core that can blow it up if hit and walkways above deep chasms that don’t have any rails.
> Must i go on? <mark>Every race or organisation has tech with an Achilles Heel.</mark>

Must be the law.

“Look, we get this is a powerful weapon and all, but you have to have something that gives the good guys a chance.”

Not the Covenant. They’re only flaw was the ones who formed their conglomerate.

> > > And all this could’ve been avoided if the Forerunners just made them non-organic too. I swear, the Forerunners have so many flaws in their tech. Must hire Imperial tech services.
> >
> > Just like how other races have flaws, The Empire: Stormtroopers wear helmets that have no perceptual vision, armour that doesn’t protect them and are terrible shooters. AT AT slow, heavily armoured, yet capable of being taken down by tying their long legs. Death Star: Has a massive Flaw a hole that goes directly to it’s core that can blow it up if hit and walkways above deep chasms that don’t have any rails.
> > Must i go on? <mark>Every race or organisation has tech with an Achilles Heel.</mark>
>
> Must be the law.
>
> “Look, we get this is a powerful weapon and all, but you have to have something that gives the good guys a chance.”

The Law of Nature, Human Beings: Poor eyesight, Hearing, limited regeneration, lowest mammals to hold breath and a Violent Species. Forerunners: Believe themselves to be superior (so do we), Arrogant, Selfish (Would wipe Galaxy of Life to Protect it)and have design flaws in the technology they create (Mendicant Bias, Promethean Knights)

> > > > This makes sense. I<mark>'m completely certain that the Flood will be in Halo 5 or 6.</mark>
> > >
> > > With the Gravemind still alive, that is a strong possibility.
> >
> > After 4 years with nothing to feed on?
>
> It wouldn’t be alive in the physical sense. Some of us believe the Gravemind is a consciousness, Ajw34307 speculates that it is located in slipspace where it’s powers would rival on the godly, that merely inhabits the Gravemind organism when it forms. After all, we see it was still alive after Chief blew up High Charity.

I’d think it’s dead. If its infected forms didn’t die with the blast they should be after 4 years. All I can think that would survive are spores and without a stasis chamber to keep them active shouldn’t those be dead aswell?

I’m just saying. I believe he’s gone for good. It’d be distastefull to bring back the flood.

> I’m just saying. I believe he’s gone for good. It’d be distastefull to bring back the flood.

Not really, the flood were contained on many Forerunner facilitties, there’s every reason to believe they could come back.

> They made it a point in the sparkast to make it clear that crawlers were purely non-biological and immune to the flood. Also from this, the Prometheans were suited to fight the flood.

I wonder which Flood form the Crawlers would be best against, besides infection forms.

Combat forms are supposed to be pretty fast but succumb easily to gun fire. CE Flood painted the best picture of them and I can see several of them being killed by a single Crawler.

> The watcher is a simple-yet-complex necessity as a “force multiplier” to use their own words. They are also non-biological.

I hope they don’t become ‘nothing special’ (Hunter, Engineer) or ‘annoying’ (Jackal sniper, Ranged Form) enemies. These are Forerunner constructs. They deserve more than that.

> The combusting, from what I can tell, seems to be a defense mechanism to ensure that they do not become infected and thus become counter-productive.

This is as surprising as the reason for Red vs. Blue (sarcasm). Nonetheless, I like how they’re focusing on gameplay performance. The more AI numbers, the better.

> > > > This makes sense. I<mark>'m completely certain that the Flood will be in Halo 5 or 6.</mark>
> > >
> > > With the Gravemind still alive, that is a strong possibility.
> >
> > After 4 years with nothing to feed on?
>
> It wouldn’t be alive in the physical sense. Some of us believe the Gravemind is a consciousness, Ajw34307 speculates that it is located in slipspace where it’s powers would rival on the godly, that merely inhabits the Gravemind organism when it forms. After all, we see it was still alive after Chief blew up High Charity.

that sound similar to the chaos gods in warhammer 40k but a really good theory

> I’d think it’s dead. If its infected forms didn’t die with the blast they should be after 4 years. All I can think that would survive are spores and without a stasis chamber to keep them active shouldn’t those be dead aswell?

Except if it is a consciousness, it wouldn’t need any host to survive. After all, don’t you find it odd how the Gravemind only begins to talk when a Proto-Gravemind or Gravemind began to form?

> I’m just saying. I believe he’s gone for good. It’d be distastefull to bring back the flood.

“Resignation is my virtue; like water I ebb, and flow. D<mark>efeat is simply the addition of time to a sentence I never deserved</mark>… but you imposed.”

If blowing him up on High Charity didn’t do the trick, if the first Halo activation didn’t do the trick, what makes you think he’s gone now? An why would bringing the Flood back be distasteful? You think they are all gone now? Ha!

Makes sense, considering that the majority of the Forerunners didn’t want to be taken over, let alone having their fighters taken over. Ashes… what an idea, 343i.

A good theory, but it seemed like they weren’t organic at all.

I agree that it could be a failsafe against the flood, but more in the sense because flood can corrupt and extract information from more intelligent AIs if they capture them.

But a wrench in that theory is that Knights seem so far to be designed to engage non-flood opponents.

A problem even if they were wholly non-organic and just AIs…the Gravemind would still be able to control them. Mendicant Bias, Cortana, all evidence for that.