Why the Heatwave worries me

For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.

Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.

Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc

If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.

I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.

It’s probably out of a similar vein as the Hannibal vehicles were assuming it’s even UNSC to begin with.

The name itself suggests it wouldn’t be UNSC.

The design of it seems more curved and Banished like to me. The overall shape of it doesn’t exactly scream UNSC to me so my initial thought is that it is a Covenant/Banished weapon hence why it has an energy/plasma shot. Doesn’t really seem Promethean in nature in either design, sound or projectile. My best guess is that it is a Covenant weapon.

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> The design of it seems more curved and Banished like to me. The overall shape of it doesn’t exactly scream UNSC to me so my initial thought is that it is a Covenant/Banished weapon hence why it has an energy/plasma shot. Doesn’t really seem Promethean in nature in either design, sound or projectile. My best guess is that it is a Covenant weapon.

It literally disintergrates players like the Promethean weapons do…and it has bankshot capability like the Scattershot in Halo 5. It’s clearly supposed to harness some sort of Forerunner technology.

Probably some sort of created-forerunner hybrid weapon. It’s definitely doesn’t look like anything from the UNSC

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> For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
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> Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
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> Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
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> If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.

Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.

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> > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
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> > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
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> > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
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> > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.

And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.

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> > > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
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> > > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
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> > > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
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> > > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> > Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.
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> And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.

And the Spartan’s energy shields are reverse engineered from Covenant

The Heatwave is clearly made of Forerunner materials but made with Human design principles in mind. I think it’s reverse engineered Forerunner tech but almost entirely human made.

Sidekick
Bulldog
Commando
Ravager
Mangler
Heatwave

I’m really digging the names they’ve been giving these new weapons.

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> > > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
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> > > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
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> > > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
> > >
> > > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> > Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.
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> And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.

It’s funny, I was waiting for someone to say this. I’m suprised you don’t see the fallacy you’re making though.

It’s irrelevant that the covenant use forerunner tech. Why? Because that was established in the series from day one, and plasma based weapons have historically been unique to the covenant.

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> > > > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
> > > >
> > > > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
> > > >
> > > > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
> > > >
> > > > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > > > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> > > Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.
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> > And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.
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> It’s funny, I was waiting for someone to say this. I’m suprised you don’t see the fallacy you’re making though.
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> It’s irrelevant that the covenant use forerunner tech. Why? Because that was established in the series from day one, and plasma based weapons have historically been unique to the covenant.

False, early in the UNSC where to have some. Also you have to keep in mind the fact that covenant use weapons like the focus rifle which is literally a reverse engineered sentinel beam, then you have the scarabs which are old forerunner mining tech.

there is no fallacy there, and you should really only use words you know the meaning of.

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> > > > > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
> > > > >
> > > > > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > > > > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> > > > Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.
> > >
> > > And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.
> >
> > It’s funny, I was waiting for someone to say this. I’m suprised you don’t see the fallacy you’re making though.
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> > It’s irrelevant that the covenant use forerunner tech. Why? Because that was established in the series from day one, and plasma based weapons have historically been unique to the covenant.
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> False, early in the UNSC where to have som.

What does this even mean? Your spelling is atrocious.

Besides, the point stands. It was established from the first game that the covenant are using forerunner technology, while the UNSC arsenal in the Halo games is principally contemporary ballistics, so it would be a shame to see 343 break this rule.

UNSC’s also got the whole Galilean Nonlinear Rifle, you know the Splaser? Thing doesn’t shoot bullets, it just asplodes anything it hits from a long distance away. I’m pretty sure that the UNSC tapping into Energy-based weapons more often is inevitably going to happen sooner or later. What, are they just going to tell every military R&D in human controlled space to stop development of the field “Because of tradition!” or something? The regular weapons and vehicles aren’t going to disappear overnight even if they do experiment with energy projected weapons more often though.

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> > > > > > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
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> > > > > > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
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> > > > > > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > > > > > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> > > > > Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.
> > > >
> > > > And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.
> > >
> > > It’s funny, I was waiting for someone to say this. I’m suprised you don’t see the fallacy you’re making though.
> > >
> > > It’s irrelevant that the covenant use forerunner tech. Why? Because that was established in the series from day one, and plasma based weapons have historically been unique to the covenant.
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> > False, early in the UNSC where to have som.
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> What does this even mean? Your spelling is atrocious.
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> Besides, the point stands. It was established from the first game that the covenant are using forerunner technology, while the UNSC arsenal in the Halo games is principally contemporary ballistics, so it would be a shame to see 343 break this rule.

Flamethrower (Bungie era), spartan laser (bungie), and Hannible anything (343) already break that rule, it isn’t one.

And before you say flamethrowers aren’t plasma, fire can actually form simple plasma’s if hot enough.

the UNSC also have plasma weapons on the infinity as of halo 4, seriously infinity has plasma missiles in its arsenal that are UNSC designed.

oh and the fact that you are going out of your way to attack my spelling before the argument is just sad I could point to the fact you misspelled surprised somehow, but that doesn’t add to the conversation so just stop.

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> UNSC’s also got the whole Galilean Nonlinear Rifle, you know the Splaser? Thing doesn’t shoot bullets, it just asplodes anything it hits from a long distance away. I’m pretty sure that the UNSC tapping into Energy-based weapons more often is inevitably going to happen sooner or later. What, are they just going to tell every military R&D in human controlled space to stop development of the field “Because of tradition!” or something? The regular weapons and vehicles aren’t going to disappear overnight even if they do experiment with energy projected weapons more often though.

Also this, this heavily

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> > > > > > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
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> > > > > > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > > > > > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> > > > > Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.
> > > >
> > > > And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.
> > >
> > > It’s funny, I was waiting for someone to say this. I’m suprised you don’t see the fallacy you’re making though.
> > >
> > > It’s irrelevant that the covenant use forerunner tech. Why? Because that was established in the series from day one, and plasma based weapons have historically been unique to the covenant.
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> > False, early in the UNSC where to have som.
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> What does this even mean? Your spelling is atrocious.
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> Besides, the point stands. It was established from the first game that the covenant are using forerunner technology, while the UNSC arsenal in the Halo games is principally contemporary ballistics, so it would be a shame to see 343 break this rule.

The UNSC arsenal is still primarily ballistic based. It wouldn’t make sense for the UNSC to not and try to incorporate Forerunner technology at some point in their gear though. I mean, captured Covenant tech is why Spartans even have energy shielding to begin with. We’ve also seen the UNSC arsenal exapnd with things like the Spartan Laser. This really seems like a non-issue.

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> > > > > > > For those who don’t know, the weapon which performs the bankshot in the trailer is called the Heatwave and will feature in the upcoming beta.
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> > > > > > > Some fans have since speculated that it could be a UNSC weapon using repurposed or reverse engineered Forerunner technology. I don’t care if this is something which features in the lore, I really don’t want it to happen.
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> > > > > > > Every faction in Halo has its own unique personality and this is reflected in their arsenal, the UNSC use contemporary ballistics and explosives, the covenant use plasma, the prometheans use hardlight etc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the UNSC now have a weapon which uses forerunner technology, that is opening a can of worms. It completely breaks the design philosophy of UNSC weaponary. Where does it end? No doubt fans will ask and expect to see future UNSC weapons which harness similar technology, and all of a sudden this could render a whole range of classic weapons redundant.
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> > > > > > > I’ve never particularly liked them much, but when I saw the Heatwave in the multiplayer trailer, for the first time I genuinely felt like 343 would finally make the prometheans interesting adversaries with unique weapons. So with all that said, I really hope the Heatwave is a forerunner weapon, and that we have a number of other spiritual successors to the original forerunner arsenal in Infinite.
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> > > > > > Idk who gave you that idea, but it certainly isn’t a human weapon. That looks 100% forerunner. And even if it is Human, it’s still a Forerunner weapon. Enhance your calm.
> > > > >
> > > > > And even if it is a reverse engineered weapon the point is moot as we have had those though out the game in the covenant weapons.
> > > >
> > > > It’s funny, I was waiting for someone to say this. I’m suprised you don’t see the fallacy you’re making though.
> > > >
> > > > It’s irrelevant that the covenant use forerunner tech. Why? Because that was established in the series from day one, and plasma based weapons have historically been unique to the covenant.
> > >
> > > False, early in the UNSC where to have som.
> >
> > What does this even mean? Your spelling is atrocious.
> >
> > Besides, the point stands. It was established from the first game that the covenant are using forerunner technology, while the UNSC arsenal in the Halo games is principally contemporary ballistics, so it would be a shame to see 343 break this rule.
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> Flamethrower (Bungie era), spartan laser (bungie), and Hannible anything (343) already break that rule, it isn’t one.
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> And before you say flamethrowers aren’t plasma, fire can actually form simple plasma’s if hot enough.
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> the UNSC also have plasma weapons on the infinity as of halo 4, seriously infinity has plasma missiles in its arsenal that are UNSC designed.
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> oh and the fact that you are going out of your way to attack my spelling before the argument is just sad I could point to the fact you misspelled surprised somehow, but that doesn’t add to the conversation so just stop.

Considering the OP’s line about “it would be a shame to see 343 break this rule.”, I think that the Infinity and Hannibal weapons systems are irrelevant to his argument.

Also, there’s no ‘rule’ here. And if there was, Bungie already broke it by introducing the Spartan Laser. Are we going to make an exception, or stick to the all-ballistics route and urge 343 to cut the Galilean from Infinite?

I am beginning to think the OP just likes to hate on modern halo… every post I have seen of theirs is complaining about the game when it isn’t even out. Then when people poke holes in their logic they say those people aren’t making sense and attack them directly. I don’t think WorkCreature is worth dealing with anymore.

that said yeah this is a none issue.

Also there is one thing that really blows his “rule” out of the water
M145D Rhino - Vehicle - Halopedia, the Halo wiki
The Rhino, you know the UNSC’s plasma artillery tank.