Why the hate?

i dont get it you moan at mistakes, so why rant at this game, COD have mistakes, Battlefront, CS:GO, Siege etc all have mistakes dont blame just halo, i hate haters :slight_smile: lol

Because for Halo games there’s a standard for quality. Halo 5 does not live up to that standard at all. Campaign was a mess, MP is missing core gametypes + social MP, there’s barely any maps let alone original non-forged maps. Splitscreen, a core Halo feature is gone (I thought this was supposed to be the next gen era? Guess not.), customization has been downgraded plus there’s dozens and dozens of awful armor sets out there (probably to sell more req packs, it’s pretty obvious). I know we’re going to get more stuff down the road, but a lot of those things should have been there at launch. I can’t think of an excuse for it.

There’s just so many issues with it. I would hardly consider it ā€œhatingā€ at this point rather than calling Halo 5 on it’s bull-yoink-.

I know that hating online is a real epidemic and needs to go away, but in this case I feel that it’s well deserved. It’s a shame that hating has the become the norm to the point when legit criticism is immediately ignored and labeled as hate because of it.

well the more you complain about something the fast it tends to be noticed by the devs

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> Because for Halo games there’s a standard for quality. Halo 5 does not live up to that standard at all. Campaign was a mess, MP is missing core gametypes + social MP, there’s barely any maps let alone original non-forged maps. Splitscreen, a core Halo feature is gone (I thought this was supposed to be the next gen era? Guess not.), customization has been downgraded plus there’s dozens and dozens of awful armor sets out there (probably to sell more req packs, it’s pretty obvious). I know we’re going to get more stuff down the road, but a lot of those things should have been there at launch. I can’t think of an excuse for it.
> There’s just so many issues with it. I would hardly consider it ā€œhatingā€ at this point rather than calling Halo 5 on it’s bull-yoink-.
> I know that hating online is a real epidemic and needs to go away, but in this case I feel that it’s well deserved. It’s a shame that hating has the become the norm to the point when legit criticism is immediately ignored and labeled as hate because of it.

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> i dont get it you moan at mistakes, so why rant at this game, COD have mistakes, Battlefront, CS:GO, Siege etc all have mistakes dont blame just halo, i hate haters :slight_smile: lol

Obviously games get hate, 343i doesn’t get a ā€˜get out of criticism card’. 343i are obviously making plenty of mistakes and it’s part of what helps improve the games industry. it’s been like that way for a while.

This game simply lacks content that previous games had. Each Halo added new features and modes to pay every time and then Halo 5 goes ahead and removed pretty much every Halo game mode except Slayer, CTF, and SWAT. We lost so many game modes like Assault, KOTH, Infection, Team Doubles, etc. We lost social playlists (coming soon). We lost split screen. We lost more customizable options thanks to REQs. We lost a great story like how Halo games used to have. Halo 5 doesn’t have enough original maps. This is the Halo forums; we rant Halo stuff here, not COD or other games.

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> This game simply lacks content that previous games had. Each Halo added new features and modes to pay every time and then Halo 5 goes ahead and removed pretty much every Halo game mode except Slayer, CTF, and SWAT. We lost so many game modes like Assault, KOTH, Infection, Team Doubles, etc. We lost social playlists (coming soon). We lost split screen. We lost more customizable options thanks to REQs. We lost a great story like how Halo games used to have. Halo 5 doesn’t have enough original maps. This is the Halo forums; we rant Halo stuff here, not COD or other games.

Exactly, we lost so much content then we are expected to just put up with the changes for the sake of ā€˜evolving’, the game has been devolving with less content for every game that 343i have brought out. The main problem at the moment is more, more people are trusting 343i less because of their business decisions with the game.

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> i dont get it you moan at mistakes, so why rant at this game, COD have mistakes, Battlefront, CS:GO, Siege etc all have mistakes dont blame just halo, i hate haters :slight_smile: lol

Because people like to whine about things. This community fell into the pit after Halo 2 and has never really gotten out of it. They like to forget certain things about past Halo’s (For instance Halo CE was supposed to have 25 missions in the game but ended up only having 10) and they like to blame it all on 343I.

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> i dont get it you moan at mistakes, so why rant at this game, COD have mistakes, Battlefront, CS:GO, Siege etc all have mistakes dont blame just halo, i hate haters :slight_smile: lol

This is a Halo forum. Why would we complain about other games mistakes here?

Because almost the entire Halo community is a festering hate pit. I’m almost at the point where it’s embarrassing to call myself a Halo fan and keep visiting these forums.

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> Because almost the entire Halo community is a festering hate pit. I’m almost at the point where it’s embarrassing to call myself a Halo fan and keep visiting these forums.

Pretty much.

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> > Because almost the entire Halo community is a festering hate pit. I’m almost at the point where it’s embarrassing to call myself a Halo fan and keep visiting these forums.
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There was a time when I’d visit Halo forums (Bungie or Waypoint) and have proper constructive conversations with fellow Halo fans. Now every time I come here the top three threads are something like ā€œ343 ruined Haloā€, ā€œForge will die on arrivalā€ and ā€œHalo 5 is the worst Halo everā€.

I’ve got no problem with giving developers feedback but there’s people here literally listing every feature that’s ever been in any Halo game and saying it’s ā€œmissingā€ from Halo 5, so that must mean it’s 343’s fault and they’ve killed the franchise etc. etc… There’s a distinct difference between constructive criticism and childish, entitled whining.

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> > 2535412270366413;1:
> > i dont get it you moan at mistakes, so why rant at this game, COD have mistakes, Battlefront, CS:GO, Siege etc all have mistakes dont blame just halo, i hate haters :slight_smile: lol
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> Because people like to whine about things. This community fell into the pit after Halo 2 and has never really gotten out of it. They like to forget certain things about past Halo’s (For instance Halo CE was supposed to have 25 missions in the game but ended up only having 10) and they like to blame it all on 343I.

I’ve never heard anyone anywhere claim 25 missions. The hate for Halo 3 never was this bad, even then the general population held pretty strong and in fact it was top of Xbox live population in it’s prime. Many people complained about Halo Reach, Odst because Odst lacked matchmaking/custom games then Reach kind of annoyed people but ended up being kind of liked since it added a lot of content but the campaign was a bit of a let down so Halo Reach ended up being kind of excepted. People tend to forget that the studio’s changed staff all the time for both Bungie/343I but the fact is 343i have been more mistakes than when Bungie was involved so people like to blame 343i because 343i are a new studio and they literally barely listen to anything from the community has demanded for while a minority claimed they do and even some claim it’s like Halo 2 which is a lie say modern Halo games like Halo 5 plays nothing like Halo 2 remotely.

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> > > Because almost the entire Halo community is a festering hate pit. I’m almost at the point where it’s embarrassing to call myself a Halo fan and keep visiting these forums.
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> There was a time when I’d visit Halo forums (Bungie or Waypoint) and have proper constructive conversations with fellow Halo fans. Now every time I come here the top three threads are something like ā€œ343 ruined Haloā€, ā€œForge will die on arrivalā€ and ā€œHalo 5 is the worst Halo everā€.
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> I’ve got no problem with giving developers feedback but there’s people here literally listing every feature that’s ever been in any Halo game and saying it’s ā€œmissingā€ from Halo 5, so that must mean it’s 343’s fault and they’ve killed the franchise etc. etc… There’s a distinct difference between constructive criticism and childish, entitled whining.

Yeah. I remember when the community was good too. Everybody would be coming over to play Halo CE or 2, the LAN parties. Being a Halo fan meant something back then. I really miss it.

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> > Because people like to whine about things. This community fell into the pit after Halo 2 and has never really gotten out of it. They like to forget certain things about past Halo’s (For instance Halo CE was supposed to have 25 missions in the game but ended up only having 10) and they like to blame it all on 343I.
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> I’ve never heard anyone anywhere claim 25 missions. The hate for Halo 3 never was this bad, even then the general population held pretty strong and in fact it was top of Xbox live population in it’s prime. Many people complained about Halo Reach, Odst because Odst lacked matchmaking/custom games then Reach kind of annoyed people but ended up being kind of liked since it added a lot of content but the campaign was a bit of a let down so Halo Reach ended up being kind of excepted. People tend to forget that the studio’s changed staff all the time for both Bungie/343I but the fact is 343i have been more mistakes than when Bungie was involved so people like to blame 343i because 343i are a new studio and they literally barely listen to anything from the community has demanded for while a minority claimed they do and even some claim it’s like Halo 2 which is a lie say modern Halo games like Halo 5 plays nothing like Halo 2 remotely.

25 Missions. That sure is a lot of opinions and false claims. Again look back to the link and maybe you’ll learn something.

why r u hating halo when your on halo waypoint right now! Hypacrital may i say. If you hate it so much why are you on fan forums then. Its like if i said bo3 is bad im not getting it even though ive already got it.

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> why r u hating halo when your on halo waypoint right now! Hypacrital may i say. If you hate it so much why are you on fan forums then. Its like if i said bo3 is bad im not getting it even though ive already got it.

People have the right to criticize this game. 343 has made many mistakes with this game and many people just want to see the game get better. There is a difference between complaining about legitimate issues (mediocre story, broken spawning system, etc.) and whining about them not getting everything they want. Stop labeling people haters for simply wanting to improve the game.

Halo has that thing that is just better about it. There’s a reason there’s a new one every three years. And after waiting that three years people expect something really good (I’m not saying Halo 5 isn’t good I love it). People also don’t like the removal of old content which can be understood.

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> Because for Halo games there’s a standard for quality. Halo 5 does not live up to that standard at all. Campaign was a mess, MP is missing core gametypes + social MP, there’s barely any maps let alone original non-forged maps. Splitscreen, a core Halo feature is gone (I thought this was supposed to be the next gen era? Guess not.), customization has been downgraded plus there’s dozens and dozens of awful armor sets out there (probably to sell more req packs, it’s pretty obvious). I know we’re going to get more stuff down the road, but a lot of those things should have been there at launch. I can’t think of an excuse for it.
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> There’s just so many issues with it. I would hardly consider it ā€œhatingā€ at this point rather than calling Halo 5 on it’s bull-yoink-.
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> I know that hating online is a real epidemic and needs to go away, but in this case I feel that it’s well deserved. It’s a shame that hating has the become the norm to the point when legit criticism is immediately ignored and labeled as hate because of it.

Don’t you see? The next gen era is that one era where we’re supposed to move on from the old splitscreen days and all play online! /sarcasm

I can’t really complain about anything in game. I am find that things like forge got delayed and am willing to wait for them. The way 343 handles it is a little insulting though. They are trying to pass off features that were delayed from launch as ā€œGiftsā€. People would respect them more if they would own up to things like that instead of hiding behind the term ā€œGiftā€.

omg why complain about complainers? /s