The AR’s ease of use, combined with it’s power and range, make it too good. It will still always lose to a 4shot BR, but that’s only if it’s a 4 shot. Not even the best players in the world can 4 shot everytime. This is why it needs a slight nerf.
1 miss with the BR (which everyone does) and it’s game over even against a relatively poor player that has the AR. All because the AR is ALOT easier to use than the BR.
It’s not just the AR’s power that’s the problem, or just it’s range. It’s both of those, combined with it’s ease of use.
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> Because i want it to be BR>AR hahaha lmfao LOLZ
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> Nah, but seriously…
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> The AR’s ease of use, combined with it’s power and range, make it too good. It will still always lose to a 4shot BR, but that’s only if it’s a 4 shot. Not even the best players in the world can 4 shot everytime. This is why it needs a slight nerf.
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> 1 miss with the BR (which everyone does) and it’s game over even against a relatively poor player that has the AR. All because the AR is ALOT easier to use than the BR.
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> It’s not just the AR’s power that’s the problem, or just it’s range. It’s both of those, combined with it’s ease of use.
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> > Because i want it to be BR>AR hahaha lmfao LOLZ
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> > Nah, but seriously…
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> > The AR’s ease of use, combined with it’s power and range, make it too good. It will still always lose to a 4shot BR, but that’s only if it’s a 4 shot. Not even the best players in the world can 4 shot everytime. This is why it needs a slight nerf.
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> > 1 miss with the BR (which everyone does) and it’s game over even against a relatively poor player that has the AR. All because the AR is ALOT easier to use than the BR.
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> > It’s not just the AR’s power that’s the problem, or just it’s range. It’s both of those, combined with it’s ease of use.
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> go play h2 bye
Can people actually read nowadays? I clearly explained why the AR should be nerfed (why it’s not balanced) and the only reply you can think of is that!? If your implying (pretty sure you are) that i’m just a BR fanboy that is justing hating on the AR for no reason, then learn to read.
Sorry OP but I disagree and I’m a long time hater of full auto weapons. I can stomp the AR easily at medium or longer ranges with the BR or DMR. Any closer and the AR should win because that’s just how it should work in the weapon balance.
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> Sorry OP but I disagree and I’m a long time hater of full auto weapons. I can stomp the AR easily at medium or longer ranges with the BR or DMR. Any closer and the AR should win because that’s just how it should work in the weapon balance.
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> Sorry OP but I disagree and I’m a long time hater of full auto weapons. I can stomp the AR easily at medium or longer ranges with the BR or DMR. Any closer and the AR should win because that’s just how it should work in the weapon balance.
But the AR and SMG Sprays me across Pink Tower on truth and gets be down to almost no shield. That’s not okay, in my opinion.
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> > Sorry OP but I disagree and I’m a long time hater of full auto weapons. I can stomp the AR easily at medium or longer ranges with the BR or DMR. Any closer and the AR should win because that’s just how it should work in the weapon balance.
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> But the AR and SMG Sprays me across Pink Towers on truth and gets be down to almost no shield. That’s not okay, in my opinion.
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> > > Sorry OP but I disagree and I’m a long time hater of full auto weapons. I can stomp the AR easily at medium or longer ranges with the BR or DMR. Any closer and the AR should win because that’s just how it should work in the weapon balance.
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> > But the AR and SMG Sprays me across Pink Towers on truth and gets be down to almost no shield. That’s not okay, in my opinion.
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I don’t think even with Smart Scope a automatic gun should be able to do that. Make chip my shield to 2/3 before I take cover but not almost all the way.
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> > > > Sorry OP but I disagree and I’m a long time hater of full auto weapons. I can stomp the AR easily at medium or longer ranges with the BR or DMR. Any closer and the AR should win because that’s just how it should work in the weapon balance.
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> I don’t think even with Smart Scope a automatic gun should be able to do that. Make chip my shield to 2/3 before I take cover but not almost all the way.
Why? It’s only accurate for a moment due to bullet spread. Plus they can just manual burst fire.
AR definitely needs to be toned down. The smart scope makes it incredibly powerful at ranges when it should just be alright. I’ve defeated people who were using DMR and BR at ranges which I have no business doing so. It’s a bit of a joke to be honest.
Maybe your just bad at this game. It’s not halo 2 where the brs massive auto aim dominates at every range so stop playing it that way.
Use the br and dmr like they should be used, at medium to long range. It should be a struggle at close to slight medium range against an assault rifle. It’s called balance. Change your playstyle, the weapons are fine.
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> > > Because i want it to be BR>AR hahaha lmfao LOLZ
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> > > The AR’s ease of use, combined with it’s power and range, make it too good. It will still always lose to a 4shot BR, but that’s only if it’s a 4 shot. Not even the best players in the world can 4 shot everytime. This is why it needs a slight nerf.
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> > > 1 miss with the BR (which everyone does) and it’s game over even against a relatively poor player that has the AR. All because the AR is ALOT easier to use than the BR.
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> > > It’s not just the AR’s power that’s the problem, or just it’s range. It’s both of those, combined with it’s ease of use.
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> Can people actually read nowadays? I clearly explained why the AR should be nerfed (why it’s not balanced) and the only reply you can think of is that!? If your implying (pretty sure you are) that i’m just a BR fanboy that is justing hating on the AR for no reason, then learn to read.
i read every word you typed, and i disagree, having used all 3 primary weapons ar br and dmr in the beta, i can say the AR is fine i wreak and get wreaked by it when im using the BR on empire it feels more powerful because of the lack or long range on that map, but on truth (a deceptively large map) there is the range and lines of sight for mid/long range combat so getting caught up lose by an AR is a lot less common.
the reason it suffers is descope, the lack of hip fire accuracy at mid range is significant while the br can still hip fire accurately at that range, place body shots then finish in the head and the AR looses. get ambushed by an AR and your gonna have a bad time. but in melee range the br is better, its faster to get that 1 headshot after a dash back than them to fill you with holes
Maps are a bit bigger, and the AR needs to be viable so that people do not pick BR starts because they want to have a better chance to fight back on spawn.
We miss with the AR (either completely, or unintentionally with spread), and we die. Why should the BR, which DEMANDS accuracy, be given free passes?
The hard part is getting to position close enough to deal the best damage, which is still relatively tiny compared to BRs and DMRs and keep the reticle on them, which isnt easy when auto aim is much more reduced. If we get intercepted early, we are more likely screwed.
I think the damage for SMG is a tad high and could be nerfed slightly. Other than that, they’re fine. The radar is much more detailed and does correlate to close and mid range. Pay attention to it and make a judgement call as to whether its safe to make a move or not.
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> Because i want it to be BR>AR hahaha lmfao LOLZ
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> Nah, but seriously…
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> The AR’s ease of use, combined with it’s power and range, make it too good. It will still always lose to a 4shot BR, but that’s only if it’s a 4 shot. Not even the best players in the world can 4 shot everytime. This is why it needs a slight nerf.
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> 1 miss with the BR (which everyone does) and it’s game over even against a relatively poor player that has the AR. All because the AR is ALOT easier to use than the BR.
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> It’s not just the AR’s power that’s the problem, or just it’s range. It’s both of those, combined with it’s ease of use.
Actually, it doesn’t even always lose to a 4 shot BR. Get a little headshot action with the AR, and a 4 shot with the BR can STILL lose.
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> AR is broken, it literally takes 3 shots once shields are gone.
Well to be fair, you are getting armor piecing rounds fired at your body. The shield more or less disintegrates the bullets but once that’s gone the AP rounds just shred the armor and embed themselves in the flesh, just be glad the AR can’t headshot.
Personally I can happily take down an AR user with a DMR or BR (though I;m better with the DMR) once I’m at a good range, which isn’t hard to do, hit them and they lose their smart scope then you have the advantage, they thrust towards you, you thrust back. Simple. I can even take down one with the magnum.