why should i play halo 4 over black ops 2?

this topic isn’t me actually asking, its to point out a problem with what 343i have tried to do.

so, what is there different in halo 4 on the fundamental level for me to choose it over black ops 2?

IMPORTANT!: this is a comparison of experience not a comparison of gameplay!

sandbox balanced around empowering the individual:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

choose what weapon to start with:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

instant respawn:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

"killstreaks", or more aptly, rewarding players with upgrades for getting kills/points:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

no regular weapons available on map so you have to hunt for weapons off of dead bodies:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

power weapons available on map:

  • halo 4

over-sized maps that don’t fit gameplay or play well:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

competitive ranking system:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

progression based ranking system to unlock weapons and upgrades:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

"perks", or better described as specialized character ability:

  • halo 4
  • black ops 2

a decent skill gap:

  • halo 4

so, that’s only 2 things that give halo 4 the edge, both of which don’t mean much compared to the overwhelming fundamental similarities between the games, the only reason to really play halo 4 is for the campaign.

lets look at this through your average gamers eyes, i’m a die hard halo fan so obviously i’m going to pick halo, but, the average gamer will look at halo 4 and see that it contains the same features they’ve come to know and love from all the other games on the market, how ever the big difference is the core gameplay, even though the features are similair they’re still going to have to learn how to actually play the game effectively.

but, why should these gamers learn a new game that contains the same features as a game they already know and play to no end? they shouldn’t, instead of learning to play a game with the same features they can instead choose to play the game, that contains all the same features and don’t have to learn anything because they’ve already spent the best part of a year at least, most likely around 5 years learning how to play and be very effective at.

the point i’m making is that now, halo fails to distinguish itself on the market to give players a reason to play it over other games, instead it offers the same things but with different gameplay but the base experience remains the same as the other games which makes halo a stupid choice when you already know how to play a different game with the same experience. 343i have been hell bent on appealing to the mainstream audience how ever they’re not giving the mainstream audience a reason to play the game which makes there efforts go to waste.

the best way for halo to survive on the market is to be an individual, when it stands out and offers a different experience to other games on the market then the players will come to the game for that different experience, when it doesn’t sand out amongst the crowd its going to get lost in that crowd and we’re already seeing this happen.

Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.

> Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
> Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.

i’m a die hard halo fan, i’ll do anything to see that it lives on for ever…

Everyone has a choice to play whatever game they want to play, for me its Halo 4, because I stopped playing CoD since Modern Warfare 2.

Also the fact that CoD takes no skill at all.

uh…vehicles

better game types

A -Yoink- STELLAR CAMPAIGN

forge

just saying

> > Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
> > Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.
>
> i’m a die hard halo fan, i’ll do anything to see that it lives on for ever…

So you say. I can see through your web of lies. the masquerade is all over!
The truth has been revealed!

Totally different games with different gameplay, can’t compare the two.

I have not played BOII yet, but if it’s like any other CoD game, then the killstreaks are going to be infinitely more annoying than the ordinance drops in Halo 4.

Im going to play Both games.

Cause they are both fun.

and if Black Ops 2 isnt fun for you. You may need a team.
go to Hupitgaming.com (Hupit = Helping Unite Players Into Teams)
yay, then you can enjoy both games too.

> uh…vehicles
>
> better game types
>
> A Yoink! STELLAR CAMPAIGN
>
> forge
>
> just saying

crap, forgot about vehicles, still the vehicles really don’t change much in the gameplay TBH, especially when the DMR takes them down easily so players end up sitting back and cross mapping with the DMR and sniper.

i already said campaign is the only real reason to play halo 4.

forge has been butchered, poor object designs, removal of important controls, performance problems still evident and crappy environments to forge on. for forge and custom games i choose halo reach.

> > > Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
> > > Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.
> >
> > i’m a die hard halo fan, i’ll do anything to see that it lives on for ever…
>
> So you say. I can see through your web of lies. the masquerade is all over!
> The truth has been revealed!

uh… what is this? how is wanting halo to be an individual original game to survive on the market a conspiracy against halo.

and how is my post a web of lies when everything is factually accurate?

> > Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
> > Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.
>
> i’m a die hard halo fan, i’ll do anything to see that it lives on for ever…

So then you know the old way of halo is kinda stale? that why AA and loadouts have ben introduced. Is batman impostors a COD knokoff? is Blacklight a COD copycat?

> Totally different games with different gameplay, can’t compare the two.

i’m not comparing gameplay, i’m comparing the overall experience of the games, the experience in which players choose what game to play and at the moment its honestly in black ops 2 favor purely because players already know the game.

> > > > Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
> > > > Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.
> > >
> > > i’m a die hard halo fan, i’ll do anything to see that it lives on for ever…
> >
> > So you say. I can see through your web of lies. the masquerade is all over!
> > The truth has been revealed!
>
> uh… what is this? how is wanting halo to be an individual original game to survive on the market a conspiracy against halo.
>
> and how is my post a web of lies when everything is factually accurate?

Your attempts at diverting me from your sins are laughable.
I have been trained by the masters of 343 itself to root out the likes of you.
Brother you are being used by the puppetmaster. Repent!
Repent and I shall accept you as a true brother (or sister) of Halo!

> > > Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
> > > Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.
> >
> > i’m a die hard halo fan, i’ll do anything to see that it lives on for ever…
>
> So then you know the old way of halo is kinda stale? that why AA and loadouts have ben introduced. Is batman impostors a COD knokoff? is Blacklight a COD copycat?

and i have nothing against loadouts and AAs if done right, which is a balance between arena and class based not fully loadout based…

i’m comparing to black ops 2 because its halos biggest competition, my point doesn’t just go for halo, it goes for the other games on the market as well, actually, the other games on the market can be used as evidence for my point because they’re already suffering deeply from it.

> Totally different games with different gameplay, can’t compare the two.

By adding some of the multiplayer features of COD dies not make them the same game. The gameplay is still very different. In COD whoever sees the other person first wins. Halo is more of chess match where every gun battle turns into a duel with strategy. Anybody who can’t are that must be blind.

> By adding some of the multiplayer features of COD dies not make them the same game. The gameplay is still very different. In COD whoever sees the other person first wins. Halo is more of chess match where every gun battle turns into a duel with strategy. Anybody who can’t are that must be blind.

and why do you think halo 4 is by itself under the decent skill gap comparison…?

this isn’t a comparison of gameplay, its a comparison of the experience you receive.

Over-Sized maps? Personally to me the maps are fine. Infact they are so fine they show how poorly designed the remake map fraglero–err Ragnarok is. AKA Sniper creek, 1 Binary rifle to kill them all.

either way, Halo 4 is distinctly STILL Halo, the people who play either will know this. I don’t even like COD but whatever the COD flavour has for some people it isn’t the same flavour as Halo, and I can’t wait to get home to play it more. gotta improve!

> > > > > Your part of the conspiracy against halo I assume?
> > > > > Oh, dont say your not. You simply have been conditioned to not be aware of it.
> > > >
> > > > i’m a die hard halo fan, i’ll do anything to see that it lives on for ever…
> > >
> > > So you say. I can see through your web of lies. the masquerade is all over!
> > > The truth has been revealed!
> >
> > uh… what is this? how is wanting halo to be an individual original game to survive on the market a conspiracy against halo.
> >
> > and how is my post a web of lies when everything is factually accurate?
>
> Your attempts at diverting me from your sins are laughable.
> I have been trained by the masters of 343 itself to root out the likes of you.
> Brother you are being used by the puppetmaster. Repent!
> Repent and I shall accept you as a true brother (or sister) of Halo!

i was wondering how long it would be until someone tries to start a halo religion…