Why should I have to wait?

Honestly, tell me why we should have to wait for game modes? It doesn’t make me entitled to want more game modes. This is a AAA title that happens to be Microsofts flagship game, and it launched with the least amount of variety ever. They had 3+ years and 60 of my hard earned dollars (not including the reqs that I regrettably bought) and now I’m getting freaking pepperoni pizza AR skins… Lol what?

It it would be a different story of Halo 5 had been delayed and we were still waiting. That would be totally fair and I’d even be proud of them for taking their time to put more love and dedication into bringing this community the best experience possible. But no, the game launched because they needed money now and Forge wasn’t even ready yet. Hell, it still isn’t. There’s no point in forging without a proper file browser.

Not only is it unfair that 343 get to rush their game out half assedly and I don’t get to rush them for game modes and other features that should’ve been in on launch, but it’s also down right unprofessional.

I see where you’re coming from. I just wonder if it was Microsoft who forced them to ship early or if it was their collective idea. Either way, the fans are letting them know how they feel about this.

As long as people spend 100$+ on REQs nothing will change at all.

ok i cant get past the 60 hard earned dollars part. ok sure money isnt free but just cos you payed what would normally be a few hours or work (not sure about 'merica) doesnt mean you deserve everything you wish. this game has the best multiplayer of any halo. it takes time to make gamemodes and maps. if you really want a game that has everything you want because youre a brat go to COD because its an anual franchise so it takes little to no effort to bring over gamemodes. halo 5 uses a brand new engine and things arent as easy as you want there giving you free updates with as much if not more content then the bungie ones of yesteryear. JUST WAIT TILL NEXT MONTH THERE ADDING MORE GAMEMODES… ok im done

You have to wait because they have to be made, unless you want another MCC type issue where its half finished and broken.

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> It it would be a different story of Halo 5 had been delayed and we were still waiting. That would be totally fair and I’d even be proud of them for taking their time to put more love and dedication into bringing this community the best experience possible. But no, the game launched because they needed money now and Forge wasn’t even ready yet. Hell, it still isn’t. There’s no point in forging without a proper file browser.

Wasn’t that why Forge was delayed in the first place?

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> Honestly, tell me why we should have to wait for game modes? It doesn’t make me entitled to want more game modes. This is a AAA title that happens to be Microsofts flagship game, and it launched with the least amount of variety ever. They had 3+ years and 60 of my hard earned dollars (not including the reqs that I regrettably bought) and now I’m getting freaking pepperoni pizza AR skins… Lol what?
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> It it would be a different story of Halo 5 had been delayed and we were still waiting. That would be totally fair and I’d even be proud of them for taking their time to put more love and dedication into bringing this community the best experience possible. But no, the game launched because they needed money now and Forge wasn’t even ready yet. Hell, it still isn’t. There’s no point in forging without a proper file browser.
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> Not only is it unfair that 343 get to rush their game out half assedly and I don’t get to rush them for game modes and other features that should’ve been in on launch, but it’s also down right unprofessional.

Would you prefer they didn’t add the pizza skin?

I’m quite serious. This community seems to think that asset creators are synonymous with programmers. The job of making gametypes mostly falls on the latter.

But hey, I get it. It’s easy to blame them all as a whole. It implies that there’s people inside of 343 that are actually trying. For all we know, it could have been some producer or director of a department that said “Nah, gametypes aren’t important”, and if that’s the case, that person shouldn’t keep his job.

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> > It it would be a different story of Halo 5 had been delayed and we were still waiting. That would be totally fair and I’d even be proud of them for taking their time to put more love and dedication into bringing this community the best experience possible. But no, the game launched because they needed money now and Forge wasn’t even ready yet. Hell, it still isn’t. There’s no point in forging without a proper file browser.
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> Wasn’t that why Forge was delayed in the first place?

Its still broken if you use certain features and spawns are still messed up if you delete them completely(in dev maps from my experience anyway). The update should fix most of those bugs but even objects that have physics on turn normal randomly causing tons of lag, objects flipping, etc. Not something you want to see, the lighting needs fixing tends to get annoying.

Agree 100%
It really looks bad for Microsoft’s flagship game to have so little content at launch REGARDLESS of how much time they had, how much money it cost, or really any reason.
I love Halo 5 gameplay, it’s the best so far in my opinion, very smooth and fast paced, with a very fine weapon balance.
But gameplay aside, the game is lacking content and variety, much like Evolve, Titanfall, and Rainbow 6 Siege. Good gameplay, but lack of features that really turn off gamers.
I guarantee that 343 has already lost launch-day sales for Halo 6 because of the lack of content and cutting splitscreen in Halo 5. Regardless of how much money they make in sales and REQ micro-transactions, they lose faith in their brand and that’s going to hurt in future sales.
Dont believe me? Just look at Halo 5 sales after the way 343 did Halo 4 and MCC. Its no mystery why sales are much lower than they would like.

Some of you don’t seem to understand. It’s not the pizza skin that’s -Yoink!- me off. Nor is it the fact that I have to wait. It’s the blatant lack of professionalism and pure incompetence that I see coming from MS and 343. Halo is at this point being mismanaged and it’s quite obvious.

I have absolutely no problem with em with adding forge maps on BTB. Not do I have a problem with a community playlist being added to showcase the best forge maps around. But when you put out a staple playlist that used to be the bread and butter of halo and make it entirely forge maps which don’t look that great (talking texture wise), then yeah I definitely have a problem. It’s lazy, and shows how out of touch 343 is with the community. If BTB wasn’t that important, why bother making a spinoff called Warzone?

Also, I love the gameplay of halo 5. True, it’s not classic Halo but I never wanted classic Halo from 343. They clearly have no intention of making it that way so I want them to put their all into making their own version of Halo with only two stipulations. It has to remain true to the Halo brand (a loaded stipulation admittedly), and they have to not half -Yoink- it. So far 0/2 requirements from me fulfilled.

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> > Honestly, tell me why we should have to wait for game modes? It doesn’t make me entitled to want more game modes. This is a AAA title that happens to be Microsofts flagship game, and it launched with the least amount of variety ever. They had 3+ years and 60 of my hard earned dollars (not including the reqs that I regrettably bought) and now I’m getting freaking pepperoni pizza AR skins… Lol what?
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> > It it would be a different story of Halo 5 had been delayed and we were still waiting. That would be totally fair and I’d even be proud of them for taking their time to put more love and dedication into bringing this community the best experience possible. But no, the game launched because they needed money now and Forge wasn’t even ready yet. Hell, it still isn’t. There’s no point in forging without a proper file browser.
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> > Not only is it unfair that 343 get to rush their game out half assedly and I don’t get to rush them for game modes and other features that should’ve been in on launch, but it’s also down right unprofessional.
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> Would you prefer they didn’t add the pizza skin?
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> I’m quite serious. This community seems to think that asset creators are synonymous with programmers. The job of making gametypes mostly falls on the latter.
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> But hey, I get it. It’s easy to blame them all as a whole. It implies that there’s people inside of 343 that are actually trying. For all we know, it could have been some producer or director of a department that said “Nah, gametypes aren’t important”, and if that’s the case, that person shouldn’t keep his job.

Probably the same guy who said he didn’t want social playlists. I won’t name names but you all know who I am talking about.

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> You have to wait because they have to be made, unless you want another MCC type issue where its half finished and broken.

#word

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But supposedly we’re already there. Not sure how true it is but I’m hearing that a lot of people in other countries can’t even play. Not asking for a flawless game but glaring issues and key features that aren’t ready should be enough to warrant a game delay. Hell, if Halo takes 5 years to develop nowadays I wouldn’t mind.
#pizzaskintholol

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I cant speak for everywhere, but there is definitely something wrong with a few playlists in australia. A match of warzone assault had to be planned in advance and had who knows how many australians taking part to find see if a match could be made, and it did happen though I’m uncertain if it actually lasted a while game or if everyone crashed, but there were no more matches found after even with many australians still searching. Big Team Battle also seems to be disappearing, where i have spent many hours searching in it with no games found. Even the weekend social playlist only lasted a good day and a half, and then it went on for about 3 more where i sat looking for people with no matches found.

I don’t know if this can all be blamed on tacky servers, but i think 343 definitely needs to add halo 3, Reach, and 4’s population counter to playlists so that we can see of we will actually be able to find people.

Why should you wait? You want them, don’t you? They don’t appear immediately when you make a complaint thread.

I don’t get “pissed off”, it is just a game. Everything can be improved. I am glad they are continually making tweaks.

It is the industry standard to release unfinished games these days. Get used to it or find a new hobby.

Early adopters are the new unpaid test workforce.

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> Honestly, tell me why we should have to wait for game modes? It doesn’t make me entitled to want more game modes. This is a AAA title that happens to be Microsofts flagship game, and it launched with the least amount of variety ever. They had 3+ years and 60 of my hard earned dollars (not including the reqs that I regrettably bought) and now I’m getting freaking pepperoni pizza AR skins… Lol what?
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> It it would be a different story of Halo 5 had been delayed and we were still waiting. That would be totally fair and I’d even be proud of them for taking their time to put more love and dedication into bringing this community the best experience possible. But no, the game launched because they needed money now and Forge wasn’t even ready yet. Hell, it still isn’t. There’s no point in forging without a proper file browser.
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> Not only is it unfair that 343 get to rush their game out half assedly and I don’t get to rush them for game modes and other features that should’ve been in on launch, but it’s also down right unprofessional.

There does not seem to be an excuse for including basic, permanent playlists and game types. It shouldn’t be only competitive in Arena and only be recreational in WarZone. There should be different menus like there were in Halo 3 and Halo Reach. Doubles should be included, Action Sack should be included, Multi-Team should be included, Team Snipers should be included. We shouldn’t have to beg for this or vote on it for a weekend playlist.

Because everyone else like myself are being patient. And then there is you along with other people being a bunch of impatient and spoiled brats. Seriously I don’t know who’s worse, you people or 11 year olds complaining they can’t get a kill. Go play something else if you think Halo 5 is lacking gamemodes. We’ll let you know when the gamemodes come. Meanwhile I’m done grinding for stuff and playing something else to keep me busy, plus college is starting for me soon so I won’t have to worry about Halo 5 for awhile.

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> It is the industry standard to release unfinished games these days. Get used to it or find a new hobby.
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> Early adopters are the new unpaid test workforce.

Sad but true. Despite people constantly indicating that it’s unacceptable, Game makers keep thinking that they can get away with it, and it keeps happening.

I also agree that the game shouldn’t have shipped with less content than Halo CE. Halo 5 isn’t a bad game, it’s just not a good Halo game.