Why Original Halos Better?

I would like some reasons from people why the original halo games are better than halo 5, I am not saying I think either one is better than the other (really I have no preference) but I would like to know why the originals are so much better to some halo players (if not most).

Simplicity I would guess. Adding more does not help, it just over crowds the game. That and nostalgia.

I think once you start accepting it as two separate trilogies (one trilogy and on saga to be exact) you start to enjoy halo 5 more.

One could still obviously prefer the old trilogy. idk if that makes any sense but it’s a sequel but they reason why they are so different is its a sequel through different eyes.

As for why? Imma go with the guy above^^ beautifully simple. One gun, one trilogy of tools, Halo 1-3 were simple but never stale because of it.

More is not always better buts it’s also not always bad. I hated REACH, enjoyed 4 but really liked the beta. I feel like load outs and ordinance were “more” in the wrong areas, or at least wrongly executed. Now with H5 and all its new base straits i can play with. I enjoy the layer of mobility to the original gun,grenade and melee. It’s not perfect yet but I like the direction

The flow of the game.

The kill times, movement and scale of the maps were all balanced out perfectly.

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> I would like some reasons from people why the original halo games are better than halo 5, I am not saying I think either one is better than the other (really I have no preference) but I would like to know why the originals are so much better to some halo players (if not most).

Ha. So what your looking for, or are inevitably going to find, are people stating their opinions, or quoting other people’s opions, or using youtube videos of other people’s opinions, etc etc to argue their own opinion. There is no facts on the matter because it’s all based on opinion.

Its the same as me saying I like trucks over cars and you saying you like cars over trucks. Then the both of use arguing back and forth till we’re blue in the face supporting our beliefs.

I like all the Halo games, so more than others obviously. If im picking a favorite it’s going to be a close tie between H3 and H4, leaning more towards H4. Why, because I like it more, simple as that. Now if H5 plays like it did in the beta, it will be my new favorite with probably H4 a very very close 2nd. All “my” opinion.

There are good and valid reasons for liking the old games more, but I think a lot of it has to do with nostalgia. It’s the same reason Super Mario Bros 3 will always be better than Super Mario World for me, even though my fiancee has spent ages trying to expain to me that I’m wrong … mostly because Yoshi isn’t in 3. Lol

They’re not better games, they’re better Halo games.

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> They’re not better games, they’re better Halo games.

What’s that even supposed to mean?

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My interpretation: A good game is a good game, but when one has expectations from a certain franchise and a game fails to live up to those expectations, it’s not necessarily a bad game but a bad game for that franchise.

Or to use an analogy: I like turkey subs. I order a turkey sub from a sandwich shop. I get a BLT. It might be a great BLT, but it’s a terrible Turkey Sub, and not what I asked for. Hence the problem.

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> > I would like some reasons from people why the original halo games are better than halo 5, I am not saying I think either one is better than the other (really I have no preference) but I would like to know why the originals are so much better to some halo players (if not most).
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> Ha. So what your looking for, or are inevitably going to find, are people stating their opinions, or quoting other people’s opions, or using youtube videos of other people’s opinions, etc etc to argue their own opinion. There is no facts on the matter because it’s all based on opinion.
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> Its the same as me saying I like trucks over cars and you saying you like cars over trucks. Then the both of use arguing back and forth till we’re blue in the face supporting our beliefs.
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> I like all the Halo games, so more than others obviously. If im picking a favorite it’s going to be a close tie between H3 and H4, leaning more towards H4. Why, because I like it more, simple as that. Now if H5 plays like it did in the beta, it will be my new favorite with probably H4 a very very close 2nd. All “my” opinion.

Yes I was expecting opinions because I know halo is a and It is impossible for every one to agree on one thing so I expect people to say different things. Basically what I was asking was give me your reason for the originals being better.

More competitive, more fair, more control for the player.

Simple, competitive, unique.

Halo 5 has none of the above.

well in h5 are a lot of things too much they killed skill jumps and with sprint now you can just easy scape for me that ruins the game the ADS aren’t the problem

I prefer the art style and music of the originals, especially Halo Ce.
Yes, every game since 2001 has more detail, but that doesn’t mean they look better.

I enjoy the gameplay of the originals more. Moving while shooting, hopping on -Yoink- to gain an advantage, tons of little bits to the meta like grenade jumping, intricate map design…

These days, Halo is essentially what CoD would be if you were capable of strafing. Same “stop and pop” gameplay, little to none of the depth of the originals. To my disappointment the style has been changed for the worse as well, but I’m not going to bash 343I’s creative team all day.

Halo 5 is kind of overloaded with the guns, maps and other assorted brica-brac. Some people would prefer the common man’s battle rifle than the new, shiny, sleek Suppressed SMG.

To answer a question with a question; How’s Halo 2 Anniversary tickling your fancies?

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> well in h5 are a lot of things too much they killed skill jumps and with sprint now you can just easy scape for me that ruins the game the ADS aren’t the problem

That is demonstrably untrue.
http://youtu.be/KA7vr6hr3JI
Pound jumps, skill jumps.

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> I would like some reasons from people why the original halo games are better than halo 5, I am not saying I think either one is better than the other (really I have no preference) but I would like to know why the originals are so much better to some halo players (if not most).

I don’t like quick kill times, as well as not being able to shoot your weapon at most times. I also prefer 2vs2.

The games I am enjoying at the moment is Evolve(The beta and I will buy it when it releases), Warframe, Halo 2 and 3.

All of them have slower kill times, as well as letting you use your weapon instantly when you press the right trigger.
If you can give me those two things, I will probably buy your game.

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> > well in h5 are a lot of things too much they killed skill jumps and with sprint now you can just easy scape for me that ruins the game the ADS aren’t the problem
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> http://youtu.be/KA7vr6hr3JI
> Pound jumps, skill jumps.

That’s 2 jumps on 1 map. Haven in Halo 4 had around 4 or 5? 343 is basically killing skill jumps. Halo 3 guardian have around 15-25. Halo 2 lockout, had plenty of jumps as well.

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> That’s 2 jumps on 1 map. Haven in Halo 4 had around 4 or 5? 343 is basically killing skill jumps. Halo 3 guardian have around 15-25. Halo 2 lockout, had plenty of jumps as well.

So we haven’t found all the skill jumps yet. I’m sure there will be more that will be discovered over time as players work out how to exploit the physics/movement of the H5 engine.