In squad dlc, I thought we would be getting objective gametypes as well as slayer. How else am I supposed to play invasion on breakpoint?
How are we supposed to get that achievement when you need to prevent the enemy team to touch the flag in one flag on a defiant map?
They said to play BTB or Anniversary playlists if you want Objectives…
I appreciate you put a DLC playlist back in again, but why Slayer only? We already have Team Slayer, Squad Slayer and The Arena, and seeing how Team Slayer has the second largest population, the DLC matchmaking algorithms can work there.
It is the Objective gametypes we can’t find. Team Objective has a low population so the algorithm can’t work well, and in BTB, either nobody votes objective, or most players play it like Slayer anyway.
Restore Premium Battle, it had everything we need from a DLC playlist.
> They said to play BTB or Anniversary playlists if you want Objectives…
Ehurm…No defiant or noble maps there.
Maybe they didn’t have time for an extensive new playlist layout including Objectives, so they went with a simpler Slayer list? That’s the only thing I can think of, since I guess this update was an “extra” one.
Either way, 343 needs to quit dropping the ball on this stuff. Not being able to play DLC is a major, major problem that needs to be addressed. Not being able to play the exact gametype/settings you want is something of an issue, not being able to play something you paid to play is a massive problem that reflects terribly on the company.
> > They said to play BTB or Anniversary playlists if you want Objectives…
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> Ehurm…No defiant or noble maps there.
You win good sir. I want to play all game types on the maps I have purchased.
> Restore Premium Battle, it had everything we need from a DLC playlist.
Not so. Maps were omitted (e.g., Uplink and Temptation) because of the 6v6 format, and you couldn’t play BTB game types. These problems still exist with Squad DLC. One DLC playlist is insufficient, and 6v6 is awkward.
I can’t remember the last time I played a BTB game type on Breakpoint, and I don’t recall ever having played one on Highlands.
> In squad dlc, I thought we would be getting objective gametypes as well as slayer. How else am I supposed to play invasion on breakpoint?
couldn’t agree more.
Well since the playlist is a probationary thing, I’m assuming that if it is played by enough people that they would be more willing to put in other DLC playlists. I hope.
Premium Battle also had a higher player count.
Objectives are Available currently in:
BTB
Anniversary Squad
Invasion
Team Objective
Rumble Pit
SWAT
Multi-Team
Exclusively Slayer is only Available in:
Team Slayer
Squad Slayer
Arena
As you can see the only playlist with Vanilla Reach settings that is Exclusively Slayer is Team Slayer. Everything else is TU or Slayer with Objective options (Commonly Voted).
> Well since the playlist is a probationary thing, I’m assuming that if it is played by enough people that they would be more willing to put in other DLC playlists. I hope.
Heh. Something tells me that with the All-DLC restriction, and two other pure-slayer lists at 4v4 and 5v5, while being unable to get Invasion Breakpoint, or other map-specific DLC achievements, and while still being unable to enjoy the larger maps (Of which there are 5 maps in the playlsit) at the full 8v8 complement, that it’s just not going to last very long.
I hope I’m wrong.
> > They said to play BTB or Anniversary playlists if you want Objectives…
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> Ehurm…No defiant or noble maps there.
Oops, I’m right, and you’re not…
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> > Living Dead update is nice, but it needs more gametypes as well. Also, just Slayer for Squad DLC? No Objectives? No Multiflag on Highlands or Breakneck? Come on now…
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> Multiflag on Highlands and 1 Flag on Breakneck are both available in the BTB playlist. Both are favorites of the MMST.
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> Additionally, 1 Flag and 1 Bomb appear on Breakneck in the Anniversary BTB playlist.
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> -LW
> MMST
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> > Restore Premium Battle, it had everything we need from a DLC playlist.
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> Not so. Maps were omitted (e.g., Uplink and Temptation) because of the 6v6 format, and you couldn’t play BTB game types. These problems still exist with Squad DLC. One DLC playlist is insufficient, and 6v6 is awkward.
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> I can’t remember the last time I played a BTB game type on Breakpoint, and I don’t recall ever having played one on Highlands.
I’m going on the assumption we will only ever get 1 DLC playlist. If we had Premimum 4v4 and Premium BTB, it would be better, but with removal threats on Squad DLC, I don’t see them giving us another.
I rarely come on to forums as I like to play Halo rather then talk about it. However since the DLC was taken away I had to change my policy. Although it is fantastic that you have brought back the maps that we paid for you haven’t included all the game types. Now don’t get me wrong. I love the work that you’re doing for halo, however to take away the ability to play on the maps that we bought out of shear deication to halo is in my book a bit like double-crossing us.
For exarmple, say a person bought a house in a street then was told that he could not live in that house as all the others in the same street were not sold. But then he/she gets told he can live in the shed. Although it is a bit better its still not the expierience he paid for. Think now, how would that person feel? That how I, we feel.
I would like to say again I’m not having a go, I’m just trying to make my point. Thank you for reading.
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> > > Restore Premium Battle, it had everything we need from a DLC playlist.
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> > Not so. Maps were omitted (e.g., Uplink and Temptation) because of the 6v6 format, and you couldn’t play BTB game types. These problems still exist with Squad DLC. One DLC playlist is insufficient, and 6v6 is awkward.
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> > I can’t remember the last time I played a BTB game type on Breakpoint, and I don’t recall ever having played one on Highlands.
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> I’m going on the assumption we will only ever get 1 DLC playlist. If we had Premimum 4v4 and Premium BTB, it would be better, but with removal threats on Squad DLC, I don’t see them giving us another.
The only chance to make that assumption false, is to try to make it clear to 343i why they need to handle the DLC differently; and this forum is supposed to be the means for doing that.
There’s a trite, but applicable, adage: “The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.” Both Bungie and 343i have tried to handle the DLC situation the same way: Give us a playlist with 5v5 or 6v6 combat. It’s not worked previously; why expect it to work now? They keep missing some essential points: Most purchasers of the DLC want to play all of the maps they bought (not just a sampling), with both Slayer and Objective game types (not just one), and with the appropriate team sizes for a given map (not a compromise one-size-fits-all 6v6 or 5v5).
I’m not hopeful they will give us another list; I’m not even hopeful that Squad DLC will survive. I think 343i believes their algorithm has corrected the DLC problem, and those of us complaining are just outliers. I’m a customer trying to give them feedback telling them otherwise. I don’t have to convince them they are wrong; if they want to keep me as a customer, it’s they who are going to have to do the convincing: they need to convince me they care about my feedback and know what they are doing.
> I’m going on the assumption we will only ever get 1 DLC playlist. If we had Premimum 4v4 and Premium BTB, it would be better, but with removal threats on Squad DLC, I don’t see them giving us another.
I’m going to point out that they’re currently AT the playlist limit of 25 playlists. They actually couldn’t introduce another playlist without removing another one first.
TU ZB Beta would be my pick since its obviously broken and rarely played, but of course I’m biased…
> > I’m going on the assumption we will only ever get 1 DLC playlist. If we had Premimum 4v4 and Premium BTB, it would be better, but with removal threats on Squad DLC, I don’t see them giving us another.
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> I’m going to point out that they’re currently AT the playlist limit of 25 playlists. They actually couldn’t introduce another playlist without removing another one first.
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> TU ZB Beta would be my pick since its obviously broken and rarely played, but of course I’m biased…
Or they could merge Squad Slayer and Team Objective. TO’s population is terribly anemic. This would yield a TU playlist with both Slayer and Objective games. Merging Team Snipers and Team SWAT is also a possibility. Etc.