343 Industries, you worked so hard to put a stamp on a franchise that you just picked up, to put in sloppy work towards the multi-player from Call of Duty? Did it work? Sales are still less than Call of Duty. The concurrent population of people online is still 1/3 of that of Call of Duty. You add kill streaks, change the name. You add in JIP, a Spec Ops variant, loadouts, mandatory sprint…to do what? Make the game not as fun to play as Call of Duty? I didn’t buy Halo to play a variation of CoD in Space. I brought it to play Halo, and this direction you have gone in will not be successful for your online audience. It hasn’t already at least.
You will never become as popular as CoD by emulating it. That model just doesnt work. Didn’t work for WoW wannabes or Halo killers(lol remember when games tried to be like Halo) won’t work for CoD clones.
You just suck at how it works now
These additions were great for Halo 4
Halo needs to change in order to improve
You’re just mad that you can’t get any kills
Halo 4 is awesome and you are just a hater
Haters gonna hate
Halo is still Halo, there’s no CoD in it
The Cod vs Halo argument is getting old
Adapt
Play smarter
You can’t play Halo 4
Good riddance
The changes made are good
The changes weren’t from CoD
Is something that I think will show up in this thread. Did I forget something?
Anyhow, yeah, it’s so strange that Halo went from being innovative to imitative. It was said so many times before that something that works in one game, may not work in another.
LoL is the most succesful competitive game, perhaps in an attempt to boost the competitiveness in Halo 5, 343 takes features from there?
343 needs to realise the potential Halo 4 has and go that way, then improve it for Halo 5 by listening to the fans what will work and what doesn’t.
Naqser, when I saw that list I was about to drop kick you through the Internet until I saw all of your post, lol.
OT: The only thing that will beat CoD, is something original. Put CoD elements in? People want the real deal so they play CoD even more.
> You just suck at how it works now
> These additions were great for Halo 4
> Halo needs to change in order to improve
> You’re just mad that you can’t get any kills
> Halo 4 is awesome and you are just a hater
> Haters gonna hate
> Halo is still Halo, there’s no CoD in it
> The Cod vs Halo argument is getting old
> Adapt
> Play smarter
> You can’t play Halo 4
> Good riddance
> The changes made are good
> The changes weren’t from CoD
Leave, you won’t be missed
A real Halo fan would support his franchise
Constant flaming/hating does not help
Wait until the TU
Wait until January
They are not CoD features many games have them
No game can be perfect, learn to appreciate what you have
Copying CoD and using CoD features in Halo has never worked. The competitive community said this before Reach, they said it before Halo 4 and they are saying it now. But still nobody listens.
> Naqser, when I saw that list I was about to drop kick you through the Internet until I saw all of your post, lol.
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> OT: The only thing that will beat CoD, is something original. Put CoD elements in? People want the real deal so they play CoD even more.
I hope it doesn’t make me a troll when that was the exact reaction I was looking for. Rage to lol.
OT: Exactly.
> > You just suck at how it works now
> > These additions were great for Halo 4
> > Halo needs to change in order to improve
> > You’re just mad that you can’t get any kills
> > Halo 4 is awesome and you are just a hater
> > Haters gonna hate
> > Halo is still Halo, there’s no CoD in it
> > The Cod vs Halo argument is getting old
> > Adapt
> > Play smarter
> > You can’t play Halo 4
> > Good riddance
> > The changes made are good
> > The changes weren’t from CoD
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> Leave, you won’t be missed
> A real Halo fan would support his franchise
> Constant flaming/hating does not help
> Wait until the TU
> Wait until January
> They are not CoD features many games have them
> No game can be perfect, learn to appreciate what you have
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> Copying CoD and using CoD features in Halo has never worked. The competitive community said this before Reach, they said it before Halo 4 and they are saying it now. But still nobody listens.
Thanks.
Yes, it was said.
Then again, Reach’s loadouts weren’t that similair to CoD. Reach is still within the Halo region, when Halo 4 wandered off.
> > Naqser, when I saw that list I was about to drop kick you through the Internet until I saw all of your post, lol.
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> > OT: The only thing that will beat CoD, is something original. Put CoD elements in? People want the real deal so they play CoD even more.
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> I hope it doesn’t make me a troll when that was the exact reaction I was looking for. Rage to lol.
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> OT: Exactly.
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> > > You just suck at how it works now
> > > These additions were great for Halo 4
> > > Halo needs to change in order to improve
> > > You’re just mad that you can’t get any kills
> > > Halo 4 is awesome and you are just a hater
> > > Haters gonna hate
> > > Halo is still Halo, there’s no CoD in it
> > > The Cod vs Halo argument is getting old
> > > Adapt
> > > Play smarter
> > > You can’t play Halo 4
> > > Good riddance
> > > The changes made are good
> > > The changes weren’t from CoD
> >
> > Leave, you won’t be missed
> > A real Halo fan would support his franchise
> > Constant flaming/hating does not help
> > Wait until the TU
> > Wait until January
> > They are not CoD features many games have them
> > No game can be perfect, learn to appreciate what you have
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> > Copying CoD and using CoD features in Halo has never worked. The competitive community said this before Reach, they said it before Halo 4 and they are saying it now. But still nobody listens.
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> Thanks.
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> Yes, it was said.
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> Then again, Reach’s loadouts weren’t that similair to CoD. Reach is still within the Halo region, when Halo 4 wandered off.
True. At least Reach worked even if it worked badly and was boring.
Something original will always be better than its copy.
Seriously, there is a problem with this game when I return to Halo Reach to play BTB in Hemorrhage and customs.
When Reach came out, I didn’t do that with Halo 3.
i have to agree, i liked reach but h4 has wondered off its path and is missing something
This game is not COD because COD is better than Halo 4. The sales and the population prove it. Halo is dead Black Ops 2 is just better than Halo 4. Fanboys will disagree but COD Black Ops 2 is better than Halo 4 and you are just mad Halo 4 only has 100,000 people playing LOL Reach has 70,000 LOL even my loyal Halo friends got bored of Halo 4. I said it yup but Halo 4 is not a bad game at all to me it’s fun and I play it sometimes but I have more fun playing hardcore team deathmatch because black ops 2 is more fun.
I agree OP, I just resently got bored of Halo. It’s just not competitive, you have no control over the map or weapons. And a team can tip the scales because of killstreaks. I got BO2 and I’m super satisfied with it, I got exactly what I wanted out of a COD game, Halo 4…not so much.
I really feel like Halo 3 MM.
I just don’t understand. Call of Duty is pretty much the same thing from year to year with a few differences and maybe different/enhanced game modes and it is successful. Halo was doing the same way from 1 → 2 → 3. Then Reach came out and it strayed a bit off, now Halo 4 has taken Reach and changed what was good, to be awful on top of adding crazy things. What makes you think players of Halo like kill streaks? We have never had a kill streak in Halo and we played it just fine. Load outs was a swell idea, but why add perks and -Yoink- to it? Why not just make it weapon modifiers (skins and such)…instead of you take Call of Duty ideas and put them in Halo where they don’t belong. Sprint is better than Reach, but why not just increase the movement speed? Sprint isn’t needed in arena shooters, or well it was one. Now it’s some weird hybrid that makes no sense. Get back to Halo, or go work for Activision to be honest.
The worst part is that developers of 343 will never respond to criticisms, but always respond to praise. That’s not how you please your fanbase. It’s dying faster than any Halo game ever. Halo 4 can barely maintain 100k people on at a time and it’s only been out for just over a month. I just don’t understand, but if that wasn’t good enough you:
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Screwed up progression levels (which makes me worried about ranked) with that specilization crap. Even then it’s only 130 levels.
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Poor maps/not enough maps off disc.
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Forge has been a complete mess, you even took out precision controls (for what?) and lowered the number of over items you can use overall.
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Playlists are a constant mess, and this Infinity challenge shows that they are since it’s not successful. CTF is still not as played as IS/BTS…and Big Team Battle is just a “slayer fest?”. Why? Why no objective for them…?
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User Interface is trash. Certain Affinity (or whoever) needs to be fired and you guys need to go back to interfaces that made sense. Why do I have to go to through so many lists to see what party my friend is in?
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Guns are not balanced. Someone should go find the weapon data of your game. That’s a good job, to be fair. Go check which gun is destroying all the others? If there isn’t a balance, that’s fine, but it’s going to stick that way. I loved how Frank was at an MLG event and asked why people wouldn’t use the Assault Rifle or other guns? Well maybe we would if there was a benefit to doing so, but there isn’t. Carbine is trash, and even with “fastest” kill time, it still isn’t great. BR loses to DMR at range, and since all these maps are pretty big (even 4v4 ones), DMR wins again!
So many problems…
There are constructive ways to create threads and this isn’t one of them.
As well, please refrain from making CoD vs Halo topics.