Why isn't the helios mythic?

So why isn’t the helios a mythic object, but like the oathsworn is? What made me think of it is I opened the mythic pack hoping for good reqs, and got 4 oathsworns :/. Maybe I don’t understand the mythic concept

Probably because there are no “mythic” vehicles, only actual weapons.

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> Probably because there are no “mythic” vehicles, only actual weapons.

What defines mythic then?

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I think it’s a weapon that gives you some sort of boost with it perhaps, like how prophets bane gives you active camo, oathsworn gives you a speed boost I believe.

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> I think it’s a weapon that gives you some sort of boost with it perhaps, like how prophets bane gives you active camo, oathsworn gives you a speed boost I believe.

Oh, I understand, that makes sense. All the mythics do have speed, damage, or resistance boosts

So let’s make an active camo helios…

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I’m pretty sure the main criteria is that it’s somehow related to a previous Halo game or character. Only exception seems to be the SPNKr Prime, which is hypothesized to be Mickey’s M41.

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> I’m pretty sure the main criteria is that it’s somehow related to a previous Halo game or character. Only exception seems to be the SPNKr Prime, which is hypothesized to be Mickey’s M41.

No offense, but by that logic the Whispered Truth shouldn’t be Mythic. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that weapon was first introduced in this game and has no connection with any character. The only one I could foresee is Buck from that one cutscene, but if you look closer at it, it doesn’t have that extended barrel and frankly looks just like a Gunfighter. So what about it then?

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> No offense, but by that logic the Whispered Truth shouldn’t be Mythic. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that weapon was first introduced in this game and has no connection with any character. The only one I could foresee is Buck from that one cutscene, but if you look closer at it, it doesn’t have that extended barrel and frankly looks just like a Gunfighter. So what about it then?

Thing is, I’m pretty sure that Magnum is meant to be the Whispered Truth, just stripped down. It has the same type of body and, if you look closely, you can see that it has the same “Semper Vigilans” engraving on the side. Granted, it does seem to have a different kind of sight attached…

So, to be honest, the Whispered Truth may not be attached to any specific character, but I’m pretty sure that it’s meant to be associated with Buck.

Or maybe Dare. ONI’s motto is, after all, “Semper vigilans”.

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> > No offense, but by that logic the Whispered Truth shouldn’t be Mythic. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that weapon was first introduced in this game and has no connection with any character. The only one I could foresee is Buck from that one cutscene, but if you look closer at it, it doesn’t have that extended barrel and frankly looks just like a Gunfighter. So what about it then?
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> Thing is, I’m pretty sure that Magnum is meant to be the Whispered Truth, just stripped down. It has the same type of body and, if you look closely, you can see that it has the same “Semper Vigilans” engraving on the side. Granted, it does seem to have a different kind of sight attached…
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> So, to be honest, the Whispered Truth may not be attached to any specific character, but I’m pretty sure that it’s meant to be associated with Buck.
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> Or maybe Dare. ONI’s motto is, after all, “Semper vigilans”.

I thought the whispered truth was somehow related to the rookie from ODST.

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> Thing is, I’m pretty sure that Magnum is meant to be the Whispered Truth, just stripped down. It has the same type of body and, if you look closely, you can see that it has the same “Semper Vigilans” engraving on the side. Granted, it does seem to have a different kind of sight attached…
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> So, to be honest, the Whispered Truth may not be attached to any specific character, but I’m pretty sure that it’s meant to be associated with Buck.
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> Or maybe Dare. ONI’s motto is, after all, “Semper vigilans”.

Fair, but I think that if they really wanted for it to be associated with him, they’d let you use it when playing as him. I mean, both Kelly and Linda have their signature weapons provided for them, if we see Buck picking up what is supposed to be attached to him, then I don’t get why they wouldn’t let us use it. The Dare idea is cool and all, but again, I think they would have at least referenced it prior in New Blood or something along those lines.

Only certain weapons are classified mythic. No vehicles.

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> Oh, I understand, that makes sense. All the mythics do have speed, damage, or resistance boosts

Actually, Mythic weapons are branded as such because they are closely associated with a character in the Halo universe. Linda has the Nornfang, Kelly has Oathsworn, Arbiter has Prophets’ Bane, and Jorge has his chaingun.

Single use regular phaeton is already hard enough to get.

Making one mythic would make it neigh unobtainable.

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> I think it’s a weapon that gives you some sort of boost with it perhaps, like how prophets bane gives you active camo, oathsworn gives you a speed boost I believe.

No, not entirely… A mythic weapon is any weapon used by a character in Halo’s campaigns that either has a specific paint job done by the character (such as the Nornfang, and Oathsworn,) or is just iconic. The powerup effect is a secondary trait.

No it shouldn’t be mythic. It’s already frustrating enough that the drop the rate of the Phaeton is so low including the ONI Wasp (which is a ultra rare).

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> So why isn’t the helios a mythic object, but like the oathsworn is? What made me think of it is I opened the mythic pack hoping for good reqs, and got 4 oathsworns :/. Maybe I don’t understand the mythic concept

What else did you get? For comparison, I got 20 gold packs last night, which cost me the equivalent of the Mythic pack. I got 6 mythics + 234 non mythic reqs. Of course in the 21st pack I got 2 mythics. :slight_smile:

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> Actually, Mythic weapons are branded as such because they are closely associated with a character in the Halo universe. Linda has the Nornfang, Kelly has Oathsworn, Arbiter has Prophets’ Bane, and Jorge has his chaingun.

Well, not exactly. The M6D could be attributed to Keyes, but it wasn’t exactly associated with any specific character in the Halo universe. Same goes for the BR55. I’m fairly certain that they’re considered Mythic because of their association with Halo CE and 2.

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> > So, to be honest, the Whispered Truth may not be attached to any specific character, but I’m pretty sure that it’s meant to be associated with Buck.
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> Fair, but I think that if they really wanted for it to be associated with him, they’d let you use it when playing as him. I mean, both Kelly and Linda have their signature weapons provided for them, if we see Buck picking up what is supposed to be attached to him, then I don’t get why they wouldn’t let us use it. The Dare idea is cool and all, but again, I think they would have at least referenced it prior in New Blood or something along those lines.

True.

I wish 343 would provide some indication of what ‘Mythic’ means for the REQs. Hell, I’m pretty sure that the idea of them being attached to characters or games is just a fan theory.

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> > So why isn’t the helios a mythic object, but like the oathsworn is? What made me think of it is I opened the mythic pack hoping for good reqs, and got 4 oathsworns :/. Maybe I don’t understand the mythic concept
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> What else did you get? For comparison, I got 20 gold packs last night, which cost me the equivalent of the Mythic pack. I got 6 mythics + 234 non mythic reqs. Of course in the 21st pack I got 2 mythics. :slight_smile:

I got 4 oathsworns, 2 banes, 2 primes, 1 Gavel and 1 CE. I was hoping for jorges or nornfangs :frowning:

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> > > So why isn’t the helios a mythic object, but like the oathsworn is? What made me think of it is I opened the mythic pack hoping for good reqs, and got 4 oathsworns :/. Maybe I don’t understand the mythic concept
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> > What else did you get? For comparison, I got 20 gold packs last night, which cost me the equivalent of the Mythic pack. I got 6 mythics + 234 non mythic reqs. Of course in the 21st pack I got 2 mythics. :slight_smile:
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> I got 4 oathsworns, 2 banes, 2 primes, 1 Gavel and 1 CE. I was hoping for jorges or nornfangs :frowning:

Not a bad haul overall. Jorge’s chaingun is very very rare, I lucked out and got 2 in my 21 pack opening. I also got 1 nornfang. Although you don’t get the instant gratification of 10 “mythics” I recommend just getting gold packs.