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Really why?
Thats it. I’m out.
I was out when split screen was canned. Then warzone sounded like a great fusion of invasion and firefight, so my interest was piqued… And its not custom game playable? This game holds no value for me.
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> Thats it. I’m out.
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> I was out when split screen was canned. Then warzone sounded like a great fusion of invasion and firefight, so my interest was piqued… And its not custom game playable? This game holds no value for me.
K. See ya?
There are other custom lobbies. Warzone is meant to be played as a 12v12.
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> > Thats it. I’m out.
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> > I was out when split screen was canned. Then warzone sounded like a great fusion of invasion and firefight, so my interest was piqued… And its not custom game playable? This game holds no value for me.
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> K. See ya?
> There are other custom lobbies. Warzone is meant to be played as a 12v12.
So? What if me and 5 buddies wanted to run 3v3? Why not allow that?
Its like destiny not allowing private crucible matches. There is no good reason from the player’s perspective for this.
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> > > Thats it. I’m out.
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> > > I was out when split screen was canned. Then warzone sounded like a great fusion of invasion and firefight, so my interest was piqued… And its not custom game playable? This game holds no value for me.
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> > K. See ya?
> > There are other custom lobbies. Warzone is meant to be played as a 12v12.
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> So? What if me and 5 buddies wanted to run 3v3? Why not allow that?
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> Its like destiny not allowing private crucible matches. There is no good reason from the player’s perspective for this.
Because there are bosses and other such things. Maybe it will get worked in later. But the point of warzone is massive battles.
Custom Games are meant to be customized to your liking, Warzone won’t be apart of that or Forge mainly because of the use of AIs in that game type.
If not having a completely new game type you know nothing about allowed in Custom Games is a deal breaker for you, then you aren’t going to handle the life of a gamer very well…
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> Custom Games are meant to be customized to your liking, Warzone won’t be apart of that or Forge mainly because of the use of AIs in that game type.
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> If not having a completely new game type you know nothing about allowed in Custom Games is a deal breaker for you, then you aren’t going to handle the life of a gamer very well…
Thats just untrue. I’ve handled it fine being a gamer.
I understand not forging in warzone. But not having customs is ridiculous. Firefight worked in customs. Campaign works in custom games. Both have AI enemies.
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> > Custom Games are meant to be customized to your liking, Warzone won’t be apart of that or Forge mainly because of the use of AIs in that game type.
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> > If not having a completely new game type you know nothing about allowed in Custom Games is a deal breaker for you, then you aren’t going to handle the life of a gamer very well…
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> Thats just untrue. I’ve handled it fine being a gamer.
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> I understand not forging in warzone. But not having customs is ridiculous. Firefight worked in customs. Campaign works in custom games. Both have AI enemies.
Those only let you change things like health, skulls etc. What would you do with req packs in a custome warzone? How many bosses would their need to be if there are only 3 people per team? Do the maps need to be smaller to compensate for less people now?
Because if they allowed customs then people may actually be able to make their own version of Firefight or create a more interesting version of Warzone.
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> Its like destiny not allowing private crucible matches. There is no good reason from the player’s perspective for this.
Destiny doesn’t have custom matches for any of its PVP activities. Halo doesn’t have custom matches for just one of its PVP activities, that represent a third to a fourth of its PVP offerings (going by map count). It’s not that similar.
I can see 343 excluding custom matches for it if they feel there isn’t a benefit for it worth the cost of building out the structure. I can imagine that rationale being most people won’t be able to populate the gametype with the recommended number of players and that the level of customization won’t be much deeper than what’s available in the base-matchmade experience.
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> > Custom Games are meant to be customized to your liking, Warzone won’t be apart of that or Forge mainly because of the use of AIs in that game type.
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> > If not having a completely new game type you know nothing about allowed in Custom Games is a deal breaker for you, then you aren’t going to handle the life of a gamer very well…
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> Thats just untrue. I’ve handled it fine being a gamer.
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> I understand not forging in warzone. But not having customs is ridiculous. Firefight worked in customs. Campaign works in custom games. Both have AI enemies.
I agree. I see this a big loss, but not some that’ll prevent me from buying the game. What I’m afraid of is what will happen to this game when the servers go offline? Am I not going to be able to play anything? Or will they switch it over to P2P connections?
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> Or will they switch it over to P2P connections?
There’s no P2P at all in Halo 5 - campaign, MP, Warzone, Custom games, everything runs from dedicated servers
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> > > Thats it. I’m out.
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> > > I was out when split screen was canned. Then warzone sounded like a great fusion of invasion and firefight, so my interest was piqued… And its not custom game playable? This game holds no value for me.
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> > K. See ya?
> > There are other custom lobbies. Warzone is meant to be played as a 12v12.
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> So? What if me and 5 buddies wanted to run 3v3? Why not allow that?
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> Its like destiny not allowing private crucible matches. There is no good reason from the player’s perspective for this.
Warzone is meant for massive battles. It seems like you are not grasping the core concept here. Not every game mise needs be played wuth customs. Firefight was ruined becuase of that.
OK, at first I was pretty angry at this but the more I thought about it, the more I’m actually very OK with this.
Warzone is 24v24. I want you guys to look at that long and hard for a moment.
24v24
And we want Custom Games for this… A, at very most, 8v8 mode…
Yeeaaahhh… Even I know that’s just silly. The maps themselves alone are just way too big for this silliness. No. Sorry guys but I actually completely understand why this is both not forgeable or in Custom Games.
Good thing we are getting a ridiculously amount of maps. This is just “oh well” news. It would’ve been nice, but it’s not a big difference.
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> Warzone is 24v24. I want you guys to look at that long and hard for a moment.
12v12 
24v24 would be ridiculous haha
I think the simplest and best explanation to answer this is, answering it with another question. Why can we NOT Forge Campaign?
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> > Warzone is 24v24. I want you guys to look at that long and hard for a moment.
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> 12v12
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> 24v24 would be ridiculous haha
Whoops. Excuse me.
But still though. That’s much more than any typical Custom Games mode which maybe gets somewhere around 4-8 players total. Maybe 10 if you’re lucky.
And in any case, there’s still the other big team game modes they can use as well so please, let’s not blow this out of proportion.
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> > Custom Games are meant to be customized to your liking, Warzone won’t be apart of that or Forge mainly because of the use of AIs in that game type.
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> > If not having a completely new game type you know nothing about allowed in Custom Games is a deal breaker for you, then you aren’t going to handle the life of a gamer very well…
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> Thats just untrue. I’ve handled it fine being a gamer.
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> I understand not forging in warzone. But not having customs is ridiculous. Firefight worked in customs. Campaign works in custom games. Both have AI enemies.
Firefight and Campaign are completely different. Firefight was just a co-op mode, and Campaign multiplayer is co-op. Warzone is competitive so the nature of the thing is fundamentally different. If we can’t forge it, we can’t use it in customs, that seems to be the logic.
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> > > Thats it. I’m out.
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> > > I was out when split screen was canned. Then warzone sounded like a great fusion of invasion and firefight, so my interest was piqued… And its not custom game playable? This game holds no value for me.
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> >
> > K. See ya?
> > There are other custom lobbies. Warzone is meant to be played as a 12v12.
>
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> So? What if me and 5 buddies wanted to run 3v3? Why not allow that?
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> Its like destiny not allowing private crucible matches. There is no good reason from the player’s perspective for this.
The maps are too big. To score points, you need to kill a player or a boss. If there’s no boss, you won’t be able to find a player. A mode that big can’t be played with that few people.