Why is there even a sprint button?

It’s not pointless, since it allows you to slide, which does have a gameplay purpose. If there was a slide button instead, it would seem a little odd, since you just suddenly slid without building momentum. The sprint makes you see that momentum build up so that you can release it in a slide, even if it’s just slightly faster.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Not totally sure to be honest, I hardly use it. Though I find myself using it a lot when I have the Grav Hammer, even if its only making me 10% faster!
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> > > > > > > > > > > > it does make you go slightly faster, and changes the trajectory of your jump.
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> > > > > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > > > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
> > > >
> > > > no, if its 3% different then its different and by definition not “cosmetic”
> > > > as you yourseld said sprint is 3% faster than BMS
> > > >
> > > > thats sprint…I’m sorry if you don’t like it but I finally feel like I’m playing halop again
> > >
> > > But surely you don’t mean that 3% isn’t pointless?
> > > That’s great, glad you like it, I like Infinite too, don’t misunderstand me. But would you not be equally happy if the sprint was just gone? would you miss it?
> >
> > I don’t find it to be pointless no
> > I think 3% increase on BMS speed is fine
> >
> > Oh and believe me I would be equally happy if not more happy if sprint was yeet’d out the window, but if it has to stay this is a good comprimise
>
> Well here I am, a sprint fan, telling you that I’d rather have it your way completely. Not thinking it’s a compromise at all, I feel like a fair compromise would be more like 5-10 percent.

Disagree, that would make sprint too fast and make people forced to use it becuase if they don’t they put themselves at a disadvantage
at 3% it provides a layer to the game, allows the introduction of other advanced movement mechannics such as slide and does (by your admission) make you 3% faster

and it does this all while not overly changing the way the game will be designed doesn’t change bullet magnetism or aim assist doesn’t make spartans op with bs like spartan chage etc etc

THIS is comprimise

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > it does make you go slightly faster, and changes the trajectory of your jump.
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> > > > > > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > > > > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
> > > > >
> > > > > no, if its 3% different then its different and by definition not “cosmetic”
> > > > > as you yourseld said sprint is 3% faster than BMS
> > > > >
> > > > > thats sprint…I’m sorry if you don’t like it but I finally feel like I’m playing halop again
> > > >
> > > > But surely you don’t mean that 3% isn’t pointless?
> > > > That’s great, glad you like it, I like Infinite too, don’t misunderstand me. But would you not be equally happy if the sprint was just gone? would you miss it?
> > >
> > > I don’t find it to be pointless no
> > > I think 3% increase on BMS speed is fine
> > >
> > > Oh and believe me I would be equally happy if not more happy if sprint was yeet’d out the window, but if it has to stay this is a good comprimise
> >
> > Well here I am, a sprint fan, telling you that I’d rather have it your way completely. Not thinking it’s a compromise at all, I feel like a fair compromise would be more like 5-10 percent.
>
> Disagree, that would make sprint too fast and make people forced to use it becuase if they don’t they put themselves at a disadvantage
> at 3% it provides a layer to the game, allows the introduction of other advanced movement mechannics such as slide and does (by your admission) make you 3% faster
>
> and it does this all while not overly changing the way the game will be designed doesn’t change bullet magnetism or aim assist doesn’t make spartans op with bs like spartan chage etc etc
>
> THIS is comprimise

But you’re only seeing it from you own perspective and preference, which is non-sprint gameplay, a “compromise” requires to please both parties, for a compromise you also need to think about those who like the faster “running around” type of gameplay. 10% would be to meet in the middle.
But like I said I’ll go all the way to non-sprint, just don’t tease me with a useless mechanic that reminds me of what sprint isn’t, and makes me lean forward in my couch.

Edit: I wanna correct myself, I don’t actually think a compromise is possible, since the types of gameplay are so different, I can see that those who don’t like sprint still might be unpleased with 5-10. Maybe it’d be best to pick one or the other idk

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it does make you go slightly faster, and changes the trajectory of your jump.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > > > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > > > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > > > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > > > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > > > > > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
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> > > > > > no, if its 3% different then its different and by definition not “cosmetic”
> > > > > > as you yourseld said sprint is 3% faster than BMS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thats sprint…I’m sorry if you don’t like it but I finally feel like I’m playing halop again
> > > > >
> > > > > But surely you don’t mean that 3% isn’t pointless?
> > > > > That’s great, glad you like it, I like Infinite too, don’t misunderstand me. But would you not be equally happy if the sprint was just gone? would you miss it?
> > > >
> > > > I don’t find it to be pointless no
> > > > I think 3% increase on BMS speed is fine
> > > >
> > > > Oh and believe me I would be equally happy if not more happy if sprint was yeet’d out the window, but if it has to stay this is a good comprimise
> > >
> > > Well here I am, a sprint fan, telling you that I’d rather have it your way completely. Not thinking it’s a compromise at all, I feel like a fair compromise would be more like 5-10 percent.
> >
> > Disagree, that would make sprint too fast and make people forced to use it becuase if they don’t they put themselves at a disadvantage
> > at 3% it provides a layer to the game, allows the introduction of other advanced movement mechannics such as slide and does (by your admission) make you 3% faster
> >
> > and it does this all while not overly changing the way the game will be designed doesn’t change bullet magnetism or aim assist doesn’t make spartans op with bs like spartan chage etc etc
> >
> > THIS is comprimise
>
> But you’re only seeing it from you own perspective and preference, which is non-sprint gameplay, a “compromise” requires to please both parties, for a compromise you also need to think about those who like the faster “running around” type of gameplay. 10% would be to meet in the middle.

No, you keep using the word compromise
It does not mean what you think it means

Here is why it is exactly a compromise

the non sprint crowd want sprint removed
the pro sprint crowd want it to stay

sprint has been included in the game but has been toned down and balanced

thats compromise

wasn’t the sprint increase in h5 10-15%?
So how is making sprint in infinite 10% a compromise?
Thats keeping it the same which is what the pro-sprinters want

no, this is compromise and this is a good balance movinf forward

I have been playing with the movement today. Sprint > slide > jump > clamber > sprint > repeat. The movement is really smooth all in all and every mechanic seems to have a place. I think sprint could use a slight buff but then I would also like to see those physics lead into a faster slide and longer slide-jump. Really, I mean REALLY play around with it, I found sprint to be useful despite its apparent lack of speed.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it does make you go slightly faster, and changes the trajectory of your jump.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > > > > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > > > > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > > > > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > > > > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > > > > > > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > no, if its 3% different then its different and by definition not “cosmetic”
> > > > > > > as you yourseld said sprint is 3% faster than BMS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thats sprint…I’m sorry if you don’t like it but I finally feel like I’m playing halop again
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But surely you don’t mean that 3% isn’t pointless?
> > > > > > That’s great, glad you like it, I like Infinite too, don’t misunderstand me. But would you not be equally happy if the sprint was just gone? would you miss it?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don’t find it to be pointless no
> > > > > I think 3% increase on BMS speed is fine
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh and believe me I would be equally happy if not more happy if sprint was yeet’d out the window, but if it has to stay this is a good comprimise
> > > >
> > > > Well here I am, a sprint fan, telling you that I’d rather have it your way completely. Not thinking it’s a compromise at all, I feel like a fair compromise would be more like 5-10 percent.
> > >
> > > Disagree, that would make sprint too fast and make people forced to use it becuase if they don’t they put themselves at a disadvantage
> > > at 3% it provides a layer to the game, allows the introduction of other advanced movement mechannics such as slide and does (by your admission) make you 3% faster
> > >
> > > and it does this all while not overly changing the way the game will be designed doesn’t change bullet magnetism or aim assist doesn’t make spartans op with bs like spartan chage etc etc
> > >
> > > THIS is comprimise
> >
> > But you’re only seeing it from you own perspective and preference, which is non-sprint gameplay, a “compromise” requires to please both parties, for a compromise you also need to think about those who like the faster “running around” type of gameplay. 10% would be to meet in the middle.
>
> No, you keep using the word compromise
> It does not mena what you think it means
>
> Here is why it is exactly a compromise
>
> the non sprint crowd want sprint removed
> the pro sprint crowd want it to sya
>
> sprint has been included in the game but has been toned down and balanced
>
> thats compromise
>
> wasn’t the sprint increase in h5 10-15%?
> So how is making sprint in infinite 10% a compromise?
> Thats keeping it the same which is what the pro-sprinters want
>
> no, this is compromise and this is a good balance movinf forward

I was only talking about compromising in reply to you talking about it. what you mean I keep using the word?
I feel like you’re just defending this as “fair” because you got what you wanted, and you want it to be justified or something? It doesn’t need to be, you’re allowed to like it anyway, don’t worry about it.

No h5 had 15-20 ish, 5-10 would be halfway I guess, a bit under even.
It’s not a compromise between sprint and no sprint because there is no sprint, just an animation and a near non-existent difference, bms could just be 3% faster and it would feel the same, better even. I can’t see that as a fair compromise however hard I try.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it does make you go slightly faster, and changes the trajectory of your jump.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > > > > > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > > > > > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > > > > > > > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > no, if its 3% different then its different and by definition not “cosmetic”
> > > > > > > > as you yourseld said sprint is 3% faster than BMS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thats sprint…I’m sorry if you don’t like it but I finally feel like I’m playing halop again
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But surely you don’t mean that 3% isn’t pointless?
> > > > > > > That’s great, glad you like it, I like Infinite too, don’t misunderstand me. But would you not be equally happy if the sprint was just gone? would you miss it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don’t find it to be pointless no
> > > > > > I think 3% increase on BMS speed is fine
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh and believe me I would be equally happy if not more happy if sprint was yeet’d out the window, but if it has to stay this is a good comprimise
> > > > >
> > > > > Well here I am, a sprint fan, telling you that I’d rather have it your way completely. Not thinking it’s a compromise at all, I feel like a fair compromise would be more like 5-10 percent.
> > > >
> > > > Disagree, that would make sprint too fast and make people forced to use it becuase if they don’t they put themselves at a disadvantage
> > > > at 3% it provides a layer to the game, allows the introduction of other advanced movement mechannics such as slide and does (by your admission) make you 3% faster
> > > >
> > > > and it does this all while not overly changing the way the game will be designed doesn’t change bullet magnetism or aim assist doesn’t make spartans op with bs like spartan chage etc etc
> > > >
> > > > THIS is comprimise
> > >
> > > But you’re only seeing it from you own perspective and preference, which is non-sprint gameplay, a “compromise” requires to please both parties, for a compromise you also need to think about those who like the faster “running around” type of gameplay. 10% would be to meet in the middle.
> >
> > No, you keep using the word compromise
> > It does not mena what you think it means
> >
> > Here is why it is exactly a compromise
> >
> > the non sprint crowd want sprint removed
> > the pro sprint crowd want it to sya
> >
> > sprint has been included in the game but has been toned down and balanced
> >
> > thats compromise
> >
> > wasn’t the sprint increase in h5 10-15%?
> > So how is making sprint in infinite 10% a compromise?
> > Thats keeping it the same which is what the pro-sprinters want
> >
> > no, this is compromise and this is a good balance movinf forward
>
> I was only talking about compromising in reply to you talking about it. what you mean I keep using the word?
> I feel like you’re just defending this as “fair” because you got what you wanted, and you want it to be justified or something? It doesn’t need to be, you’re allowed to like it anyway, don’t worry about it.
> No h5 had 15-20 ish, 5-10 would be halfway I guess, a bit under even.
> It’s not a compromise between sprint and no sprint because there is no sprint, just an animation and a near non-existent difference, bms could just be 3% faster and it would feel the same, better even. I can’t see that as a fair compromise however hard I try.

I didn’t get what I want
I want sprint 100% removed… yeet it into the seventh lair of hell where it belongs
I haven’t gotten what I want sprint is in the game, it gives you a 3% buff in movement speed and they’ve increased BMS to make sprint not so over-bearing in the game

It is a compromise because sprint IS in the game clearly

You don’t like it becuase its been tgoned down and balanced but the fact remains that it is in the game and it gives you a 3% movement speed buff

I can’t see how 5-10 percent increase is a compromise, thats leaving sprint the same

We are just chasing our tail here

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> > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
> > >
> > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
> >
> > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> >
> > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
>
> It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic

3% difference isn’t cosmetic though. 3% can get you somewhere that split second faster and can let you be the one grabbing the weapon on getting to a spot first.

I’m definitely on the side of not wanting sprint in Halo whatsoever, but the minor boost with sprint right now feels like a fair balance. It was just too ridiculous on old games where if you weren’t sprinting, you were basically standing still. This is nice. You’re still gonna be sprinting right at the start to try to get places because it does help, but you don’t feel like you’re at a disadvantage if you’re moving slower because base movement speed is what it should be in Halo. But with sprint like this, and sprint letting you slide, it’s just a really nice balance.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not totally sure to be honest, I hardly use it. Though I find myself using it a lot when I have the Grav Hammer, even if its only making me 10% faster!
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it does make you go slightly faster, and changes the trajectory of your jump.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
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> > > > > > > > > > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > > > > > > > > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > no, if its 3% different then its different and by definition not “cosmetic”
> > > > > > > > > as you yourseld said sprint is 3% faster than BMS
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thats sprint…I’m sorry if you don’t like it but I finally feel like I’m playing halop again
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But surely you don’t mean that 3% isn’t pointless?
> > > > > > > > That’s great, glad you like it, I like Infinite too, don’t misunderstand me. But would you not be equally happy if the sprint was just gone? would you miss it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don’t find it to be pointless no
> > > > > > > I think 3% increase on BMS speed is fine
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh and believe me I would be equally happy if not more happy if sprint was yeet’d out the window, but if it has to stay this is a good comprimise
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well here I am, a sprint fan, telling you that I’d rather have it your way completely. Not thinking it’s a compromise at all, I feel like a fair compromise would be more like 5-10 percent.
> > > > >
> > > > > Disagree, that would make sprint too fast and make people forced to use it becuase if they don’t they put themselves at a disadvantage
> > > > > at 3% it provides a layer to the game, allows the introduction of other advanced movement mechannics such as slide and does (by your admission) make you 3% faster
> > > > >
> > > > > and it does this all while not overly changing the way the game will be designed doesn’t change bullet magnetism or aim assist doesn’t make spartans op with bs like spartan chage etc etc
> > > > >
> > > > > THIS is comprimise
> > > >
> > > > But you’re only seeing it from you own perspective and preference, which is non-sprint gameplay, a “compromise” requires to please both parties, for a compromise you also need to think about those who like the faster “running around” type of gameplay. 10% would be to meet in the middle.
> > >
> > > No, you keep using the word compromise
> > > It does not mena what you think it means
> > >
> > > Here is why it is exactly a compromise
> > >
> > > the non sprint crowd want sprint removed
> > > the pro sprint crowd want it to sya
> > >
> > > sprint has been included in the game but has been toned down and balanced
> > >
> > > thats compromise
> > >
> > > wasn’t the sprint increase in h5 10-15%?
> > > So how is making sprint in infinite 10% a compromise?
> > > Thats keeping it the same which is what the pro-sprinters want
> > >
> > > no, this is compromise and this is a good balance movinf forward
> >
> > I was only talking about compromising in reply to you talking about it. what you mean I keep using the word?
> > I feel like you’re just defending this as “fair” because you got what you wanted, and you want it to be justified or something? It doesn’t need to be, you’re allowed to like it anyway, don’t worry about it.
> > No h5 had 15-20 ish, 5-10 would be halfway I guess, a bit under even.
> > It’s not a compromise between sprint and no sprint because there is no sprint, just an animation and a near non-existent difference, bms could just be 3% faster and it would feel the same, better even. I can’t see that as a fair compromise however hard I try.
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> I didn’t get what I want
> I want sprint 100% removed… yeet it into the seventh lair of hell where it belongs
> I haven’t gotten what I want sprint is in the game, it gives you a 3% buff in movement speed and they’ve increased BMS to make sprint not so over-bearing in the game
>
> It is a compromise because sprint IS in the game clearly
>
> You don’t like it becuase its been tgoned down and balanced but the fact remains that it is in the game and it gives you a 3% movement speed buff
>
> I can’t see how 5-10 percent increase is a compromise, thats leaving sprint the same
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> We are just chasing our tail here

You’re right, we are. We should round it up.

You’re right also about that neither of us got what we wanted, one is happier about it than the other, but that’s just the way it is, unavoidable.

One thing I wanna get through, is that, you seem to mean that this is somewhat towards what both pro sprinters and anti sprinters want, which I understand it can be seen as in a perspective. But “I am” one of those pro-sprinters (just one, I’m aware, just speaking for me) and I am telling you that I would rather have it completely “your” way. So it’s clearly not a successful compromise assuming that I am the norm-pro-sprinter, which I might not be at all. But I guess that’s my conclusion and perspective of our conversation.

As someone who didn’t mind Sprint I would say I like the compromise having it give a minor boost of speed and having the only way to slide is by sprinting is good imo it’s great for map design where we won’t need to have huge maps and slow bms basically requiring us to Sprint also that 3% will make a difference in custom games just you watch lol

i think, the same with smart link, is to give the illusion of speed to get the cod kiddies into the game

the reality as we know, is that you actually dont need to sprint much at all unless ur going across map or wanna slide

343 was smart with this one

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> > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
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> > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
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> > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
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> > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
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> > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
>
> 3% difference isn’t cosmetic though. 3% can get you somewhere that split second faster and can let you be the one grabbing the weapon on getting to a spot first.
>
> I’m definitely on the side of not wanting sprint in Halo whatsoever, but the minor boost with sprint right now feels like a fair balance. It was just too ridiculous on old games where if you weren’t sprinting, you were basically standing still. This is nice. You’re still gonna be sprinting right at the start to try to get places because it does help, but you don’t feel like you’re at a disadvantage if you’re moving slower because base movement speed is what it should be in Halo.

So, what if the BMS was just pushed up 3% and no sprint?

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Fair enough. I’m impressed that you don’t get stressed or aggravated by it.

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> > > > > > I mean it a choice now
> > > > > > in H5 if you weren’t sprinting you moved like you were in concrete boots. BMS was so slow which means if you were not sprinting you were putting yourself at a detriment.
> > > > > > Now with incresased BMS I don’t feel as tho I’m forced to sprint to be on an even field with mobilitiy
> > > > > > I can choose when to sprint and when not to and not be put at a disadvantage.
> > > > > > If sprint is going to stay I think this is a good comprimise for classic fans and the AM fans
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> > > > > But… Sprint can’t be an option it it doesn’t exist…
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> > > > But it does exist, I hit a button and suddently my spartan starts sprinting and moving faster then the BMS
> > > >
> > > > Thats sprint…of course its there.
> > > > I’ve been sprinting a lot in infinite, I can just choose when I do it now
> > >
> > > It’s 3 percent difference in speed, it’s cosmetic
> >
> > 3% difference isn’t cosmetic though. 3% can get you somewhere that split second faster and can let you be the one grabbing the weapon on getting to a spot first.
> >
> > I’m definitely on the side of not wanting sprint in Halo whatsoever, but the minor boost with sprint right now feels like a fair balance. It was just too ridiculous on old games where if you weren’t sprinting, you were basically standing still. This is nice. You’re still gonna be sprinting right at the start to try to get places because it does help, but you don’t feel like you’re at a disadvantage if you’re moving slower because base movement speed is what it should be in Halo.
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> So, what if the BMS was just pushed up 3% and no sprint?

I’m not even sure what you’re asking. It makes no sense. If you want to remove sliding completely and make everyone run the same exact speed, then you’d just remove sprint completely and keep BMS the same. BMS feels perfect so far with these maps. It feels slightly quicker than Halo 2/3 did and much faster than ones with sprint in it (where sprinting was a HUGE difference in speed), but sprinting also feels nice since it gives you that hair more speed plus access to a slide.