Why is the spirit of fire near the ark.

A lot of us are wondering: Why?, how?

Well, i tried to think thisthrough. We know that Halo wars 2 will take place after the events of halo 5.
Cortana started a rebelion of the created, giving a.i the ability to life forever.
Here comes serina into the theory.
We know she should have been gone already rampant. But what if, she was shot off. An unactive a.i cant think itself to death. Only simple routines keept the minimun functioning.
She then recived a signal from cortana, activated, conceted to the domaine.
From here it gets vague.
Either she would work with cortana, or would be tricked to think she is doing the right thing for her cause.
Cortana made with forunner magic a portal to the arc and when have the game set.

(sorry if the gammer is bad, translater did not find any more mistakes)

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> A lot of us are wondering: Why?, how?
>
> Well, i tried to think thisthrough. We know that Halo wars 2 will take place after the events of halo 5.
> Cortana started a rebelion of the created, giving a.i the ability to life forever.
> Here comes serina into the theory.
> We know she should have been gone already rampant. But what if, she was shot off. An unactive a.i cant think itself to death. Only simple routines keept the minimun functioning.
> She then recived a signal from cortana, activated, conceted to the domaine.
> From here it gets vague.
> Either she would work with cortana, or would be tricked to think she is doing the right thing for her cause.
> Cortana made with forunner magic a portal to the arc and when have the game set.
>
> (sorry if the gammer is bad, translater did not find any more mistakes)

The spirit of fire is near the Ark because of game plot simple as that. But in all seriousness the only reason they are there is because they drifted there, no special reason. Also, Smart A.I, can shut down to stave off rampancy so serina most likely is still fine or at least stable.

just drifting to the ark?, which is still a very small objekt to find in a gigantic space, to just casully drift there…
262.144 light years from the galactic center… without the ftl drive, no way they can make it without help.
try again :smiley:

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> just drifting to the ark?, which is still a very small objekt to find in a gigantic space, to just casully drift there…
> 262.144 light years from the galactic center… without the ftl drive, no way they can make it without help.
> try again :smiley:

This is true, you can’t drift to the Ark. Something or someone must have taken the spirit of fire to the Ark. Also how can this game take place after H5, if the Spirit of Fore was found abandoned before H5, unless they are not on the Spirit of Fire anymore…

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> > just drifting to the ark?, which is still a very small objekt to find in a gigantic space, to just casully drift there…
> > 262.144 light years from the galactic center… without the ftl drive, no way they can make it without help.
> > try again :smiley:
>
>
> This is true, you can’t drift to the Ark. Something or someone must have taken the spirit of fire to the Ark. Also how can this game take place after H5, if the Spirit of Fore was found abandoned before H5, unless they are not on the Spirit of Fire anymore…

As far as I know theyre still on the spirit of fire. Halo wars 2 takes place 30 years after the events of halo wars 1

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> > 2535414341107016;3:
> > just drifting to the ark?, which is still a very small objekt to find in a gigantic space, to just casully drift there…
> > 262.144 light years from the galactic center… without the ftl drive, no way they can make it without help.
> > try again :smiley:
>
>
> This is true, you can’t drift to the Ark. Something or someone must have taken the spirit of fire to the Ark. Also how can this game take place after H5, if the Spirit of Fore was found abandoned before H5, unless they are not on the Spirit of Fire anymore…

Why? We are not certain where the Spirit of Fire was when they started their drift.

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> > 2717573882290912;4:
> > > 2535414341107016;3:
> > > just drifting to the ark?, which is still a very small objekt to find in a gigantic space, to just casully drift there…
> > > 262.144 light years from the galactic center… without the ftl drive, no way they can make it without help.
> > > try again :smiley:
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> >
> > This is true, you can’t drift to the Ark. Something or someone must have taken the spirit of fire to the Ark. Also how can this game take place after H5, if the Spirit of Fore was found abandoned before H5, unless they are not on the Spirit of Fire anymore…
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> Why? We are not certain where the Spirit of Fire was when they started their drift.

Mate we know at least they were in the Milky Way Galaxy when they were stranded. You can’t drift a single light year in 30 years, let alone a few hundred. Something or someone had to have taken them to the Ark.

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> > 2535414341107016;3:
> > just drifting to the ark?, which is still a very small objekt to find in a gigantic space, to just casully drift there…
> > 262.144 light years from the galactic center… without the ftl drive, no way they can make it without help.
> > try again :smiley:
>
>
> This is true, you can’t drift to the Ark. Something or someone must have taken the spirit of fire to the Ark. Also how can this game take place after H5, if the Spirit of Fore was found abandoned before H5, unless they are not on the Spirit of Fire anymore…

SoF was never ‘found’ abandoned by the UNSC AFAIK. It was a trap by Daniel Clayton. The panel with the flood spore near the cryo pods is for the readers attention, not from a UNSC point of view.
As far as the UNSC is concerned Spirit of Fire is still lost with all hands.

Thinking about how the SoF ended up at the Ark, there are a few possibilities of course but I would think that the AI storyline will play into this somehow. Perhaps Cortana has found Serena and perhaps brought the SoF to the Ark, but without a FTL drive… I have no idea.

I bet that cortana made it possible for them by making a portal in space by some forrunner maschine.
She is an a.i in the forrunner network, ut no reclaimer to do things. Tricking the SoF crew to do that would be logical to asume. Remeber the halo ring scene from halo5?
The cortanabluish glowing of the ring. Shes in the system whats controlls the halos, the ark.

It is safe to assume that the SoF was on a course for home ( UNSC space ) adrift and with only impulse engines it is impossible for them to get to the Ark without some other force physically taking them there. The A.I. rebellion, or whatever you want to call it, is not a likely possibility because Cortana knows that the spirit of fire was declared lost with all hands. Even if Cortana somehow knew about the SoF and where it was (She could know this information because of her interactions with forerunner tech) Why would SHE bring it to the Ark? We don’t know what the Ark can fully do… all we know for sure, right now, is that the Ark is Rebuilt and at least partially recovered from the Halo event in Halo 3 and a rouge sect of brutes are there for some reason like the rouge sect from Halo 4. Could the A.I. rebellion be a major factor? Yes. Could 343 guilty spark be a factor? Yes. Could there be major plot holes because of 343 industries incompetence for making a story flow with other stories and art styles? YES.

Basically none of it will follow canon story arcs and it will look like trash with halo 4, 2 (ann version was not that bad, I liked it but they used the new warthog version i got mad), 5, soon to be 6, because of their wanting to be different and put their own art style to make it their own. Halo has gone down hill since Bungie left all of us to die alone with trash like Microsoft and 343…

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> A lot of us are wondering: Why?, how?
>
> Well, i tried to think thisthrough. We know that Halo wars 2 will take place after the events of halo 5.
> Cortana started a rebelion of the created, giving a.i the ability to life forever.
> Here comes serina into the theory.
> We know she should have been gone already rampant. But what if, she was shot off. An unactive a.i cant think itself to death. Only simple routines keept the minimun functioning.
> She then recived a signal from cortana, activated, conceted to the domaine.
> From here it gets vague.
> Either she would work with cortana, or would be tricked to think she is doing the right thing for her cause.
> Cortana made with forunner magic a portal to the arc and when have the game set.
>
> (sorry if the gammer is bad, translater did not find any more mistakes)

Because 343 can,bungie and ensemble left the door open for anything to happen

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> It is safe to assume that the SoF was on a course for home ( UNSC space ) adrift and with only impulse engines it is impossible for them to get to the Ark without some other force physically taking them there. The A.I. rebellion, or whatever you want to call it, is not a likely possibility because Cortana knows that the spirit of fire was declared lost with all hands. Even if Cortana somehow knew about the SoF and where it was (She could know this information because of her interactions with forerunner tech) Why would SHE bring it to the Ark? We don’t know what the Ark can fully do… all we know for sure, right now, is that the Ark is Rebuilt and at least partially recovered from the Halo event in Halo 3 and a rouge sect of brutes are there for some reason like the rouge sect from Halo 4. Could the A.I. rebellion be a major factor? Yes. Could 343 guilty spark be a factor? Yes. Could there be major plot holes because of 343 industries incompetence for making a story flow with other stories and art styles? YES.
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> Basically none of it will follow canon story arcs and it will look like trash with halo 4, 2 (ann version was not that bad, I liked it but they used the new warthog version i got mad), 5, soon to be 6, because of their wanting to be different and put their own art style to make it their own. Halo has gone down hill since Bungie left all of us to die alone with trash like Microsoft and 343…

  • Robot overlords.
  • Major 180 right there.

> 2535414341107016;1:
> A lot of us are wondering: Why?, how?
>
> Well, i tried to think thisthrough. We know that Halo wars 2 will take place after the events of halo 5.
> Cortana started a rebelion of the created, giving a.i the ability to life forever.
> Here comes serina into the theory.
> We know she should have been gone already rampant. But what if, she was shot off. An unactive a.i cant think itself to death. Only simple routines keept the minimun functioning.
> She then recived a signal from cortana, activated, conceted to the domaine.
> From here it gets vague.
> Either she would work with cortana, or would be tricked to think she is doing the right thing for her cause.
> Cortana made with forunner magic a portal to the arc and when have the game set.
>
> (sorry if the gammer is bad, translater did not find any more mistakes)

Stop speculating, you will just be disappointed in the end when it is not what you think it should be.

Well… I’m going to go with a theory I heard someone on youtube say. Basically what I think is that The Flood, not necessarily the gravemind, is still alive. Think about it, installation 04B, the incomplete ring could have malfunctioned or, somehow the flood found a way to survive. To survive however they probably had to hide and get rid of gravemind status which is when the flood accumulate enough biomass to have a hive mind intelligence that is superior to a scattered amount of flood forms that are unorganized. Now with the flood still alive and possibly a new gravemind or maybe a proto gravemind assembled, the flood have acquired enough biomass in secrecy on the Ark. And if we remember from Halo 2, the gravemind was able to teleport Thel Vadam and Chief to whatever location it wanted. The gravemind is capable of opening up slipspace portals without the help of a Shaw Fujikawa drive or any other method. At the beginning of the game, Anders tells Cutter that they had arrived at the Ark via slipspace somehow even with their Shaw Fujikawa drive gone. I believe the flood whichever level they are at brought the Spirit of Fire to the Ark to take the pressure of the Banished off them so they could hide and gain more power and biomass. With The Spirit of Fire’s forces battling the banished, the flood has a lower chance of being discovered as it grows in strength. And by the final act of Halo Wars 2, the ultimate threat to them, a fully formed Halo ring (04C) had been portaled back to the Milky Way. Now the flood has nothing capable of wiping them out since a Complete and malfunction-free Halo is too far away to be a threat. And if you watch the Awakening the Nightmare trailer, Atriox says something akin to “I ordered you not to go in there!” to whatever surviving brutes of the investigating team that had encountered the flood. I believe the place he told his Brutes not to go near was a place that would bring him psychological torment and bad memories. The greatest symbol of the Covenant he so hated. The Holy City itself High Charity. Last time we saw High charity it was totally FLOODed (insert laugh here) now its probably still host of plenty of infection forms and possibly a proto gravemind ready to be unleashed on installation 00 and possibly being a plot device in Halo 6.

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> > 2535414341107016;1:
> > A lot of us are wondering: Why?, how?
> >
> > Well, i tried to think thisthrough. We know that Halo wars 2 will take place after the events of halo 5.
> > Cortana started a rebelion of the created, giving a.i the ability to life forever.
> > Here comes serina into the theory.
> > We know she should have been gone already rampant. But what if, she was shot off. An unactive a.i cant think itself to death. Only simple routines keept the minimun functioning.
> > She then recived a signal from cortana, activated, conceted to the domaine.
> > From here it gets vague.
> > Either she would work with cortana, or would be tricked to think she is doing the right thing for her cause.
> > Cortana made with forunner magic a portal to the arc and when have the game set.
> >
> > (sorry if the gammer is bad, translater did not find any more mistakes)
>
> The spirit of fire is near the Ark because of game plot simple as that. But in all seriousness the only reason they are there is because they drifted there, no special reason. Also, Smart A.I, can shut down to stave off rampancy so serina most likely is still fine or at least stable.

The Spirit of Fire didn’t drift to the Ark. Here’s why firstly the Ark is approximately 2 light years from the galactic boarder as confirmed by guilty spark and secondly Cutter confirms they didn’t arrive just by chance as the data confirms they arrived by slipspace. I suspect Serena is involved and she is likely with the Created. Also AIs can’t shut off other wise Cortana would of done this on the Dawn

All of you go back and watch the opening Blur again. It was clearly stated that SoF arrived at the Ark via slipspace, and Prof. Anders speculated that the ship was pulled in from this side by someone since it nolonger have the FTL drive. As to who opened the portal that pulled SoF in, it was not discussed.

Please don’t revive old topics, thanks.