As the title says…Why are the Carbine and Plasma pistol considered not starter worthy when BR and DMR are…
Plasma Pistol is also considerably weaker than the Magnum…
Only reason I could think of would be variants so I suppose its too late to change unlesd they removed the special versions…Which wouldn’t be cool
Because we aren’t Elites.
What he said. Plus pp at will is not good.
Carbine shoots super fast in the game too, so actually pretty strong in many instances. We already have the DMR for this, so no need for the carbine to be permanent.
Sorry to say but 343 have changed the philosophy behind the alien weapons that once could have been called appropriate starting weapons. And it has absolutely nothing to do with how well your player model can say wort.
The basic gist of things now is that the CC is designed to be a superior BR, the SR a superior AR, the LR a superior DMR, the Suppressor a superior SMG and the BS a superior Magnum. The idea being that you’ll have something to spend your req points on when you aren’t willing to wait for a power weapon as well as a method of filling the req station with more content than it would have other wise.
Halo 4s CC and BR were pretty dead on in terms of being medium range competitors and options to spawn with. In Halo 5 the CC outright kills faster than the BR, that’s why you can’t spawn with it and it’s absolutely intentional.
I really would have liked to have seen some of the alien weapons as spawn options too but I guess if I want a medium range rifle without missing out on that shotty I’ve been saving for I’ll have to go with the BR instead.
As for the PP. As long as it’s a vehicle killer it shouldn’t be a spawn weapon.
Plasma pistol would ruin vehicle gameplay.
Plasma pistols would have been an annoyance with all the vehicles in the match… as for the carbine, if theytoned down the damage so it took 1 or 2 more shots to kill someone (equal it to the battle rifle) Then id love to see it as a loadout weapon, it should have been from the start, yeah its not a UNSC weapon as people have said, but neithers the Lightrifle and thats a loadout weapon… and anyway seeming we’re allied with the Arbiter its not out of Halo lore that we could spawn with Carbines, either way i think the plasma pistol would be a bit OP (Never thought id say that for the PP) But it would be with all the vehicles… but the same goes for the plasma repeater, if they toned it down slightly… then that would be a brilliant loadout weapon to go with the AR… not sure why they didnt do this from the start! People dont use those weapons enough… if they were loadout i think it would be an even spread, i know id switch between carbine and BR…
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> Plasma pistol would ruin vehicle gameplay.
so much this.
no to pp as a starter. ever.
A starting plasma pistol would be game breaking.
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> Plasma pistols would have been an annoyance with all the vehicles in the match… as for the carbine, if theytoned down the damage so it took 1 or 2 more shots to kill someone (equal it to the battle rifle) Then id love to see it as a loadout weapon, it should have been from the start, yeah its not a UNSC weapon as people have said, but neithers the Lightrifle and thats a loadout weapon… and anyway seeming we’re allied with the Arbiter its not out of Halo lore that we could spawn with Carbines, either way i think the plasma pistol would be a bit OP (Never thought id say that for the PP) But it would be with all the vehicles… but the same goes for the plasma repeater, if they toned it down slightly… then that would be a brilliant loadout weapon to go with the AR… not sure why they didnt do this from the start! People dont use those weapons enough… if they were loadout i think it would be an even spread, i know id switch between carbine and BR…
The LR’s not a loadout weapon. None of alien primaries or secondaries are.
Though 343 releasing weaker versions of these weapons as permanent reqs down the road sounds like a possibility. Though the tracking on both the BS and Suppressor will need a good looking at by 343 before they release those two.
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> A starting plasma pistol would be game breaking.
Noob combo FTW!!!
As much as I’d like to have a Carbine at spawn, it would pretty fast make it’s way to the forums as “omg the most op weapon” thing.
And H4 big team battle proved that plasma pistol should never be a spawn weapon as it makes vehicles useless.
I get dumped on whenever I use it. This is the only game I have trouble enjoying the Carbine with. It can easily be challenged by other loadout weapons, just like the Storm Rifle. They should both be loadout weapons. Req 4 is to high for Carbine.
Ya really. The Carbine should be a starter weapon just like in Halo 4…and also the plasma postal.
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> Ya really. The Carbine should be a starter weapon just like in Halo 4…and also the plasma postal.
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> I get dumped on whenever I use it. This is the only game I have trouble enjoying the Carbine with. It can easily be challenged by other loadout weapons, just like the Storm Rifle. They should both be loadout weapons. Req 4 is to high for Carbine.
The CC will need a nerf before it becomes a loadout option. The same goes for any low tier alien weapon that was previously available in H4. As of right now they’re all designed to be straight up superior versions of their UNSC counterparts.
I would like to see the Carbine as loadout weapon for Warzone, I wouldn’t mind it, would beat seeing the BR 24/7…now if the lightrifle became a loadout weapon in Warzone…Dear God…now that’s what I would call game-breaking if that happened.
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> > I get dumped on whenever I use it. This is the only game I have trouble enjoying the Carbine with. It can easily be challenged by other loadout weapons, just like the Storm Rifle. They should both be loadout weapons. Req 4 is to high for Carbine.
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The only overpowered ‘thing’ it does is de-scope people really quickly… It’s 7 shot kill and it is very difficult to make all 7 before the BR takes you out (in this game at least.)
the game is set the way it is, to bring in the carbine or plasma pistol what just flip the game completely and it would become unbalanced.
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> Plasma pistols would have been an annoyance with all the vehicles in the match… as for the carbine, if theytoned down the damage so it took 1 or 2 more shots to kill someone (equal it to the battle rifle) Then id love to see it as a loadout weapon, it should have been from the start, yeah its not a UNSC weapon as people have said, but neithers the Lightrifle and thats a loadout weapon… and anyway seeming we’re allied with the Arbiter its not out of Halo lore that we could spawn with Carbines, either way i think the plasma pistol would be a bit OP (Never thought id say that for the PP) But it would be with all the vehicles… but the same goes for the plasma repeater, if they toned it down slightly… then that would be a brilliant loadout weapon to go with the AR… not sure why they didnt do this from the start! People dont use those weapons enough… if they were loadout i think it would be an even spread, i know id switch between carbine and BR…
The lightrifle isn’t a loadout weapon. Its a rare power weapon
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> I get dumped on whenever I use it. This is the only game I have trouble enjoying the Carbine with. It can easily be challenged by other loadout weapons, just like the Storm Rifle. They should both be loadout weapons. Req 4 is to high for Carbine.
Again the storm rifle isn’t a loadout weapon. the only loadout weapons are AR, Magnum, BR, SMG and DMR